Linda, because one may have grown up as a Roman Catholic or wanted to be a nun, doesn't necessarily mean the person has all their facts straight. You made up your mind to walk away from the faith based on how you felt or perceived it, but that does not mean it's "false".

Boy, we could really get into it on here and I can see where this is going. If you would like to continue this offlist? I'd be happy to. I do not want us to get into personal attacks, but certainly I was not brought up Catholic. Interestingly enough I came into the church very very late (age 24) so me and you have some interesting links and opposites. I became a Catholic from learning about the teachings, you left the church for the same reason?

Yes, your feelings do echo many in regards to contraception. I too have had some issues on the contraception side for sure. Yes, for many reasons including the ones you have given. I feel that it is not a very easy thing for the church to decide on.

Certainly, according to God at least, we are a human being from conception (immediately). And that the sexual act is certainly sacred in teh sense that God made this a gift for a man and woman to share within marriage.

I do not think it was JUST for reproduction of course, it is for bonding and pleasure as well. But let us not forget something, in frustrating the outcome of such a union there is always the danger of "is this ok with God?". So the whole issue of contraception is difficult. So for sure the church is criticised for that. But again there is no clear answers on this.

I absolutely have to say something to you here. Abortion according to my church is intrisically evil. the killing of a growing innocent baby simply because it's covered by a womb can be considered "ok", makes no sense. Im sure you know about partial birth abortion? That they have killed babies as they are coming out. How can this be ok? Where does one draw the line????? They kill them at 6 months. the baby is perfectly human, feet, hands, fingers, the lot. Even sucking their own thumb. Extremely early on.

I have zero tolerance for abortion. Yet those who have had abortions? I do not judge them because I have no idea of their personal pain, experiences or lack of realisation. But nowhere do I find that the killing of the unborn can ever be justified. Isn't it amazing that a man can be charged for murder twice when he kills a pregnant woman....yet doctors are killing unborn babies all the time and it's suddenly "ok".

They call a baby a baby when it suits, but change the name when they are attempting to refer to it as nothing more than a piece of tissue that can be disgarded.

If the church okayed abortion, they would be completely against Christ and against life. Where in the bible did it state "Thou art with a piece of tissue" Or "thou art with foetus" It was stated "Thou art with child" that upon conception Christ was considered a child.

Every child in the womb is a human being, not a fish, not an ape. A woman's choice? I notice those who are all for abortion have already been born... They have had life and the chance to live.... Funny that. I wonder has the baby got any choice?

The catechism of the Catholic church explains the beliefs and is backed up fully by bibilical quotes.