notBill,

You're really making some comments that just don't make sense. Such as this:

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Do you run Red lights when you drive?
if not you belive in time. And live in the realm of time, yourself.
Do you know what I will post next? If so tell me now.
if you cannot you are totally subject to time, and only blowing smoke.

You are again coming to conclusions based on vast and incorrect assumptions.

Based on what you posted above, you somehow believe that you would have to be able to foretell the future in order to conclude that time is a created thing.

These conclusions I have drawn are based on derived information. That is, you don't have to know and understand everything about something to get useful information about it.

Let me give you an example. How does science know which way stars are moving in relation to our own planet? It's derived information. It's based on red/blue shift. That is to say that we know this because we understand things that are related and connected, but we don't know everything about the core subject.

Make sense?

Think about it and consider that a person does not have to be able to accurately predict the future in order to understand that time is a created thing. Time is the fourth dimension of space. Keep that in mind.

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Again you don't realize YOU are really run by feelings or unconcious belifes--not ideas as you would like to think...
Again...do you run Red lights when you drive? if not you belive in time.
And probably fear death as well.

You are so wrong.

You are again making the mistake of assuming that others are like you. You really should consider that there are indeed people in the world who are not like you. I'm not saying you are bad, so please don't be offended. I'm just saying that you make vast assumptions based on your perceptions which are clearly very subjective.

I do have the ability to remove my emotions from a situation when I am analyzing it. I have also found that the people who are most skilled at judging any given situation are able to analyze them without doing what is called "projecting", that is, putting their own emotional spin on something. It takes hard work to achieve this, however, which is why many don't.

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Are you indifferent to all pain?

Now listen; this is very important. Pain, as you give in this example, has nothing to do with the type of "feelings" that we are speaking about. Emotional predispositions and physical pain are completely different.

I think somewhere you must know this (perhaps) but you are failing to distinguish these very important facts which makes an intelligent conversation difficult.

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The bible maybe wonderful and beautiful to some people BUT What the bible says is of no importance in a court of law, or as a "talking point" in any logical argument--it is simply an appeal to Authority by those who FEEL it is an Authority, and thus any appeal to it is obviously feeling based, and a failure to understand what is meant by objective standards...or science.

Again: You could not be more wrong.

You certainly know nothing about the foundation of freedom—nothing.

The courts of law were based on Biblical law in the United States and were very effective. Eventually, they were changed until the "system" no longer "works" (as they say) because of the man-made changes. Biblical law is the foundation of the constitution and has nothing to do with feelings. It has to do with what is called "Natural Law", which is a law that logically flows from the predefined rules in the physical world. In other words, God does things logically.

Based on what you are saying, you know nothing of the Bible at all yet you speak as if you are an expert. The problem can only be that you have received all of your information from a flawed source.

There are massive amounts of physical evidence that support the Bible. It has foretold the future, predicted the outcomes of archaeological digs, and has been a source of unchanging wisdom that has held the world together in multiple ways. Your conclusions that a belief in the Bible is based on feeling may be true for some, but a true intellect does nothing of the sort.

Again, if you really care about truth, I challenge you to read the books I recommended.

You see, people become educated about what they care about.

If you like sports, you will know who won the game or who the MVP is. If you care about family, you will be up on all that is going on with family. If you care about truth, you will study and learn. If not, well, you will eventually accept the Biblically-predicted mark of Revelation 13 as the final symbol of apathy.

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No it's not. It fullfills deep psychological needs.

Just because something fulfills a need does not mean that it's execution is motivated by that purpose. Consider "eating with your head" as a simplified example. Runners hydrate long before they feel thirsty. Athletes perform carbo-loading long after they are sick of carbos.

The Bible is accurate and true, and the only reason you have not discovered that is because you don't care. If you do care, you will start studying and will eventually learn what countless people have already learned over thousands of years. Leave your preconceived ideas at the door. They are inaccurate.

I will also warn you, don't get your Biblical information from T.V. They lie about the Bible constantly. Textbooks also contain misinformation. Also, don't get your Bible information from a church. The only way to get it accurately is to read it for yourself. So, if you care, you know what to do.

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Sounds good, on paper...however at this point whatever it means in practice for you is anybody's guess.

I'll give you a few examples of what it means.

Sometimes, it means knowing the future. I have spiritual impressions about what is going to happen in the future at times and have avoided great trouble because I was humble enough to listen. This leads to improving the quality of life.

The experiences I've had with God have been life changing and amazing. He had guided my life and helped me avoid trouble when I've asked. There have been several events on my life that have no natural explanation. Again, want more? Ask.

Realize though, that these are not the primary reason I believe the Bible is amazing and accurate. I believe these things about the Bible for two reasons:

(1) Prophecy

(2) Gematria

The Bible is saturated with both of these amazing attributes and is unlike any other book I've ever encountered.

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So what? You completely miss the point that folks are by and large agressive, greedy,
selfish, and fairly self destructive,

No, I don't miss that point at all.

To make my point clear to you, perhaps I should ask you if you really think most high-level crimes are:

(1) well known, and
(2) performed by only one person.

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On the contrary, as with the Kennedy assasination...conspiracies are irrelevant

Conspiracies are irrelevant only if you want to remain ignorant about real solutions to real problems and have no concern for justice. What a horrible thing to say.

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the folks at the bottom are always oppressed

No, not always. This is yet another gross generalization that you have made. Do you know what the exceptions are?

These exceptions are times when people did something differently. Do you know what that is?

There are very real patterns to be found here if you're willing to look, and when you find the patterns, you gain the knowledge necessary to change your life.

It's up to you.

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Again i disagree:
You don't have to get busy, you can stick to the beliefs you are comfortable with,
we all do our best, ... "muddy water becomes clear by not stirring it up", and you are probably an even kinder person than you realize, when you're not desperate to prove a point, and maintain a world view that gives you some sense of hope.

Doing what you are comfortable with is living according to your emotions, and if emotions are selfish, then this is a selfish way to live. Only if you begin to make decision with your mind can you break out of this mindset that you're in.

Additionally, you have judged me completely inaccurately.

You need to understand that I am not desperate to prove a point. I am excited and happy to have this discussion with you because thousands are watching and when I answer your questions wisely, they have the opportunity to gain freedom from the false beliefs that currently hold you in your current state.

I love doing this and am not desperate about this conversation. I'm thrilled for the opportunity, for my greatest reward in life is when someone with "eyes to see" understands these concepts and improves the quality of their life as a result.

I can clearly see that you don't take the time to accurately decipher information (truth) and have therefore not reached the important, life-changing conclusions (truth) that set you free. Instead you continue to misapply the idea that "muddy water becomes clear by not stirring it up". I know what this saying means but you should realize that you quoted it completely out of context from it's intended meaning.

The bottom line is that we are all where we are mostly because of who we are and what we have done. If you choose not to learn what I have which leads to the emotional freedom, empowerment, and reward that I experience, then you have done it to yourself. It's there for the taking, but you have to work for it.

Please—for your own good—take my advice and read the books that I suggested in my previous post.

When you read the following quote, and when the moment of truth comes—and it will—don't ever claim that you didn't have an opportunity to take a different road.


[color:"brown"]"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."[/color]

—Revelation 13:16-18


[color:"brown"]"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."[/color]

—Revelation 20:4


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