The symptoms that you associate with mercury - do they come and go or are they relatively stable?

If you take supplements that help, are you able to still perceive the mercury as an issue, though ameliorated, or is the relief total?

My relief is almost total even with amalgams still in as long I chelate a little bit daily and use something like fiber to keep the bowels moving steadily. If I get even just a little bit constipated I start hurting pretty good.

However, if I take a break from chelating the symptoms come right back no matter what. Hopefully with your amalgams out that shouldn't be too much of a problem for too long, though I have heard people say a year possibly two for full relief.

Did you do any heavy duty chelating with a doctor?

No, I actually haven't done any chelation.

My symptoms have been almost all relieved simply by supplementation. That's why I asked the question - it's possible that my problems were from some deficiency. B vitamins in particular seem to be the ones that make a difference.

In addition to my 5 amalgams (gone now a month), I was doing 2 things that were bad. First, I was eating a VERY monotonous diet, nearly the same things every single day for over a year. They were healthy in themselves - yoghurt, turkey, chicken, broccoli, spinach - but very restricted.

Also, I was jogging 3x a week over a very busy bridge, where auto fumes were going right into my lungs for a 3 mile run. Oh, and I also got a thimerosol-laced flu shot in November.

Anyway, as I said, the supps give me very good relief. My question is though, am I just addressing symptoms. Do I still need to chelate if my symptoms are controlled?

Personally blicero, I think everyone in the modern world needs to chelate.

So you like to suck tailpipes too huh? I left NYC in 1990 with bleeding lungs from doing that (I would ride my bike in traffic, across the Brooklyn Bridge and through lower Manhattan was my favorite ride), among other not very good for you stuff, work related. Do you get the black stuff in your nose and black soot streaks on your face too?

The lungs healed up within a couple months in Florida, the air was cleaner down there then maybe, no problems like that since. However from my recent blood tests of just 5 months ago it is quite apparent that my high lead levels came from somewhere. I am certain it was my time in NYC, I did live there for a dozen years and worked with numerous chemicals/paints/pigments/resins.

My doctor said anything showing in my blood tests could be as old as I was. Which leads me back to the conclusion that everyone should chelate, some more than others.

5 amalgams isn't as much as many of us. It depends how badly you were poisoned, how long you've been poisoned and how much your body hangs onto the mercury.

I think if the supplements are aiding you, that is really good. Some people do choose to let things take their slow natural course and if you're feeling ok, you may choose to leave it at that. But again, if your organs are storing a heavy load of mercury they may start to dump this over time, which may increase your symptoms unexpectedly later on down the road. Not everybody has this, but many do and there is no telling when it will happen but typically 6 months after last amalgam removal or later even than that.

Some can start almost immediately and get worse, then go into a kind of remission, then bad again later on when the dumping stage starts hitting.

This is why Andy Cutler does advice a person chelating so that they may already be chelating organ mercury so that you will be detoxing by the time that stage hits you. You do not have to and you certainly do not have to take anything in the early stages if you'd prefer not to. DMSA is a typical one people start with to aid their body in eliminating the already accessible mercury in the blood/tissue. But the body can do this by itself over time, but not nearly as fast or efficiently which is why many cannot cope and find DMSA helps.

But some let their body do that intially and then later use ALA to chelate their organs and brain. So long as it's 3 months or more post last amagam removal, you're safe to use ALA. Best to use it the way Andy Cutler advises, every 3-4 hours around the clock for about 3 days every week or so.

It all depends on how you feel and what you wish to do. You may go ok as you are and a good healthy diet and supplements will do a lot to aid the natural process of some mercury elimination. But again, depends on how badly poisoned you are and where hte mercury is mostly stored.

I think you really do need to chelate to get rid of things like lead, cadmium, tin, tungsten, whatever. Mercury is one part of the problem, doesn't make sense to me to focus only on that. In actuality, chelation does not focus on mercury either but helps remove it along with the other stuff too.

The chelation has helped me enormously. When I am steady with it, I feel absolutely wonderful... so not difficult for me to point to heavy metals as the source of just about any of my complaints. Besides, without chelation, it's almost impossible to get mercury out of your brain from what i understand..

My head btw is very clear and holding steady since I started doing the cilantro soup real strong a couple weeks back.

of course I needed a colonic to help my dump my gut after that... but I needed the colonic with the IV chelation also so niether here nor there I guess.

The supplements, Vitamin C especially, and ALA, they do chelate. Vit C combats oxidative stress so you don't get as achy (anti-oxidant)... but still it would seem to me you could do more to bind and flush what gets chelated by your supplements. Otherwise, you may pee some of it out but a lot is just running wild in your bloodstream too. Richard's poem sounds like mercury running wild btw. It's exactly why I take my DMSA formula at least once a day in the evening... so I don't feel like that.

Hi sosick, I have done years already of chelating, IV, and many others and was already improving and healing. Since viral infection, plus possible jawbone infection, my system has altered significantly and no longer responding to chelation of any kind. Have tried it.

Vitamins or whatever and it's like I do not even get a proper healing crisis. I have tried ALA, NDF recently and noticed not a thing. In fact, me being stupid and smoking cigarettes a few months ago is yet another reason why I am suffering more intensely now as my body is just not eliminating toxins as it should and as it used to.

I only used to have to take stuff and wham I'd go through massive healing crisis. Now I either get nothing or ill but not a lot of change over time. That is the issue, big efforts and not much to show for it.

Dont know what is up, but for sure I cannot afford to take any risks with anything including smoking cigs. It's incredible, but hte toxins seem to migrate immediately into my tissues and gut and stay there and there they remain for many months. I have tried to take stuff to encourage release, but not a lot happens.

This is the odd thing. If I am crying excessively, I mean to the point I am almost screaming, then there is "hope" that I may get relief of symptoms later on. If I get toxic exposure and do not get enough of those horrible crying rages, then I'm in bigger trouble because I basically STAY as I am. Chronic.

The entire thing is most odd, but my body tends only to eliminate or erupt toxins via these bizzare crying/screaming fits. Ive always had that tendency since being mercury toxic, but it's carried on now no matter what toxin it is and far worse considering the other factors that have occured with my health.

Right now I'm getting no crying or screaming and it all sounds ok to others, but to me it's not good. A sign my body is staying put and not really able to even do that!

hmm, that is odd.

Maybe an odd suggestion then... do some research on the net to get an idea of the hormones that are in play during crying/screaming (adrenalin etc) and possibly find something in the herbal dept to give those hormones a little bit of a jolt. Sounds dangerous though, I wouldn;t want to see yopu going off the edge daily... question, do you sweat normally or do your sweat glands seem blocked? Do you get beads of sweat on your forehead for instance if you play outside? I've read somewhere in the past about certain toxins coming into play there and disabling the bodies ability to release via sweat glands.

I'd still bite the bullet and do that candida cleanse, it really could be that simple. Candida yeasts can really mess you up and if you have never done a full 3 week cleanse it's time to get going with it. The candida cleanse is another area I kind of feel most people need from time to time even of they don't seem to have any noticable symptoms, we all have yeast and under duress or in certain situations they simply can explode into a sudden disaster, making you pretty ill with all sorts of miscellaneous symptoms.

You are already on a candida diet, why not add the herbal product to complete the picture?