http://health.msn.com/dietfitness/a...465&page=1&wa=wsignin1.0

Their was alot more web links I found.

Apprently not using chemicals to kill certain things in the field can lead to more problems such as bacteria and e.coli and other forms of bad stuff so its best eating non organic now apparently.

Well, I read the article, and I am wondering if you did. It highly favors organics as opposed to non.

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>When I read that warning from CCF—a group funded in part by agricultural chemical companies and fast-food giants—I laughed in disbelief.

Then I got angry. <

It's about the third paragraph down, you have read more than the first few sentiences of anything to understand it. The second page is also very interesting.

I am not angry though because I fully realize the idiocy and ignorance of people who make claims like you just did is what causes them to make such statements. And a lot of times ignorance isn't caused by the individual themselves. So I forgive you instead but I still don't ever want my kid eating dinner with you.

Enjoy your medical bills in 20 years.

Right after switching my family to organic foods, I began to feel much better. When I eat something with pesticides now I can feel a difference the very next day. Admittedly, I'm not going to look at the link as I know from experience that pesticides are not healthy.

In our area it is not unusual for farmers to use pesticides. One day everyone in the house as well as the neighbors had burning eyes. A county official called on the houses in the neighborhood to see how many were affected by it. He said that they had used the product improperly.

If I eat any processed foods, or non-organic vegetables (from the salad bar at work), I get tingles up and down my legs for an hour.

Since I stopped eating out and eating mostly organic, I rarely get those parathesias and never after eating.

I have a copy of a study from USF that shows numerous vegetables tested, both organic and non.

The organic veggies had—if I remember correctly—10 to 100 times (not percent, times) the mineral content than their identical non-organic counterparts. I may have to dig up the results and post them here.

It's becoming well-known that many/most pesticides inhibit mineral absorption in plants.

I spoke to a farmer in Montana several years ago and they constantly have issues with pests, even using pesticides. The farmer's wife convinced him to set aside a small piece of land and to skip spraying that part. They discovered that they had virtually no pest issues on that piece of land and they yielded significantly more from that piece than any other piece of land.

Agriculture Magazine printed an article that exposed the real cause of mad cow disease—pesticides. Pesticides interfere with copper metabolism in the brain (if I remember correctly) and caused the animals to have the "disease".

Unfortunately, ADM produces most of the U.S. food supply; yes, that same company that makes incessant donations to PBS.

My garden gets huger and huger as I read and make amends.

Pesticides kill good bugs as well as bad, make the plants more vulnerable to disease (poisoned soil) thus more bad pest infestation etc, a viscious cycle. Healthy plants really do not attract pests in any great number has been my experience. But big farms need to ensure a profit I guess.

I have thought a lot about vitamin/mineral content of veggies... pesticides may play a part but cheap ammonia/nitrate fertilizers also play a big part. The plants aren't being fed from the ground a lot of the time, but from the nitrates or whatever, and they grow quite big quite quickly and look great on the supermarket shelf, but they're not really the real thing and thus vitamin/mineral content is lacking.

Back in our great grandparent's day, when lots of people had gardens... they composted from the kitchen on a regular basis, buried their kitchen waste in the garden plot, perhaps used horse or cow manure also, and thus fed their plants in a completely different way than most gardeners/farmers today. In contrast, we are a consumer society today, we prefer to run to the store for our food or fertilizer or whatever. Vegetables begin losing vitamin content the minute they are picked. There is a huge difference in taste between fresh produce and week old produce. How long produce sits in the warehouse and store also affects vitamin content. People would rather shop at the store, buy pills and capsules than grow a plant for the real thing. We are a consumer society, big farmers and their big pesticides exist because we have demanded it of them.

In the midwest they spray their fields with airplanes. A good amount of the spray floats around in the wind....

Also, one of the very best places to acquire mad cow disease is N Africa (Morocco, Egypt etc) and the middle east, where eating the brains of sheep, goats or calfs (out of the skull itself even) is common. An arab delicacy. So I am not sure the pesticide argument really holds water.

Also, one of the very best places to acquire mad cow disease is N Africa (Morocco, Egypt etc) and the middle east, where eating the brains of sheep, goats or calfs (out of the skull itself even) is common. An arab delicacy. So I am not sure the pesticide argument really holds water. [/quote]

What do you mean exactly by this?
Not to sound ignorant or mean,but please explain what you mean,as it does'nt have a point when i read it.

Lamb’s or calf’s brains are commonly sold by butchers, and sought after by many a housewife in practically all Middle eastern countries. Arabs and western Chinese have eaten extremely tough and sour-tasting camel humps, feat and meat for centuries. The hump is first marinated and then roasted. Feet are boiled with herbs and served with a vinaigrette dressing.

Hope that helps.