Fellas, yesterday I had my third teeth pulled with a larger filling. Now it leaves me with just 2 SMALL fillings, out of 7 (the previos ones were big). So now I have relativaly very little mercury in my mouth.

Most of you know how dire my situation is, so yet I can't have the last two fillings drilled out, as I am too toxic for this and I have no biological dentist to go to, nor do i have the money for it.

Plus I've got a lot hg in my body, ESP THE BRAIN, and the sooner I get it out, the better. So I'm thinking of starting chelation NOW.

Need your opinions please, and please do include my situation without repating the cliche of 'don't chelate with fillings". I guess it's al aboutl weighing out the risks.

What do you think?

(ps. and thanx, you are all great)

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I think go for it.

As bad shape as you are in though I still think you need a dr to walk you though, watch your progress and do some IV chelation. It's a lot faster. can be an expense though and i surely do sympathize.

I have two merc amalgams in my mouth and the fillings are fairly surface level (not deep in the tooth acording to my xrays). My doc has me chelating using Detoxamin 2 X week while I get ready for amalgam removal. She said that it is important to open up a detox pathway for your body to start removing the merc and other heavy metals ( I also have cadmium, nickel, lead). So far I feel fine with this level of chelation. My detox symptoms are mild.

Hi Jinx. Could you get the two amalgam containing teeth that remain pulled? Its great to hear that you got that other one out! I'm still saying get rid of those other amalgams before you start chelating. I'd just hate to see you get worse. I know from experience that no matter how bad things are they can always get worse.

If you do start chelation you should still try to get rid of those two remaining amalgams asap, don't forget about them.

Good Luck
-Colin

can't have them pulled, won't have any bite surface left.

I think you and I had the same dentist as children, jinx.

yeah, a very "generous"one.

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need others' opinions about chelation.

Well Jinx, my dentist here in New Zealand (probably the best) detoxes his patients using NDF. He does not use any other chelating product and it is safe to use with amalgams.

But he says to please brush your teeth with it first (the amalgams), then spit out and THEN take the actual dose. You can take the dose either by direct drops down the back of your throat, or you can take them in water.

He also gives support during this. Diet (candida diet), liver, kidney and I think adrenal support homeopathic drops, selenium, vitamin C, and a multi vitamin/mineral detox supplement as well and I think if I recall some digestive enzymes and also fish oil capsules (mercury free).

This is what he does with all his patients and has been doing so for many years. It seems to work, because he does not change it anymore and he's already read Andy Cutler's book, but evenso, still prefers to use this method.

In fact, he will not remove amalgams from any patients unless they are already on a detox protocol. The sicker they are, the more insistant he is they do this. They take this continually before, during and after removal.

So you may wish to consider this, but I would advise caution because NDF in some people is still very powerful and needs to be started only when the person is prepared enough by diet and supplement support and starting off with possibly ONE drop to test the reaction and then gradually ramp up the doses from there over time. If you hit a "healing crisis" you can stop and break and try again on a smaller dose once this passes.

So that is another option for you Jinx.

Jinx

I have a full bottle of NDF I can send you if you give me your address in Poland. I live in Belgium, so not too far away. It is very expensive, but I have decided to do the Cutler thing. I think NDF is probably your best option.

Loads on info on NDF on the web - look at healthydetox - or something like that. Just one thing - I would be really REALLY careful with it. I had very strong detox reactions with it.

Let me know, or email me off list.

Nicola

Nicola...How kind-hearted of you.

wow, nicola... I really dont know what to say. You people here are so great, a true cradle of good. I have to think about your offer nicola, I'll let you know.

May I ask why u stopped using it? You don't think it's beneficial in your case?

Hi Jinx

I used NDF while I still had amalgam fillings, and did get something from it in the beginning. I felt euphoric and definitely better, but it is very strong stuff, and easy to use to much. I think what happened is that my adrenal fatigue increased so dramatically in a short space of time I became unable to use it without becoming weak and shaky. As I didn't know what on earth was going on at that stage, I got worried, and stopped using it. Then I bought Cutler's book and found out exactly what was going on with me re thyroid /adrenals, and because he is so knowlegeable about it, I decided to put my trust in him and his protocol.

I personally found the healthydetox website very good, and there are many testimonies - I do believe Tim Ray knows what he's talking about. But while cilantro is known to be able to extract brain mercury, it is an erratic process, and can go either way, from what I have read.

It's up to you - the offer is there. You clearly have to weigh up your risks and benefits. If I was in your situation, I think I would at least give it a go. I didn't know anything about the workings of cilantro when I used it, and it had no adverse effects on me, and I had 12 amalgams. It is also much easier to use than DMSA and ALA - no 3 hourly dosing 24/7.

Let me know what you want to do. I can get it in the post to you Tuesday. Monday's a Bank Holiday here.

Because we mercury toxics are all ignored by the medical profession I believe we have to help each other out. I also believe in God, and this is one of the ways in which He works.

Nicola

nicola, just out of curiosity, why not use NDF wih the adrenal and thyroid support now?

I pm'd you, btw.