I found out that i am b12 deficient i eat lots of meat so nutrition is not the problem. I appears that i will need supplementation or i will have serious damage long term.
I believe that i suffer from mercury toxcity. Huggins says b12 will methylate mercury and make me 10 times worse... I am very afraid to get supplementation, but i need b12. What can I do, what is the least dangerous way to supplement high doses of b12????

Well, it seems Huggins may not be completely correct on this, if I'm to believe other professionals who work in this area. One top US professional in mercury detox "Dr paula Bickle" who addressed an entire audience of doctors mentioned this B12 issue and she did not mention Huggins by name, but she was STUNNED at the person's lack of knowledge of biochemistry.

She mentioned that mercury methylates in the body regardless!!!! And B12 seems to be desperately needed by many mercury toxic people.

Andrew Cutler also mentions B12 as being ok as far as I'm aware. I would try it for yourself. If you notice things are worsening or something really isn't right, you can stop it. But some people on here take it and feel better, some may react.

You can get a lot of B12 and iron from foods like beef liver for example. But if you are in serious need of this stuff, I would not hesitate to take it!!!

I dont believe Huggins is always right in every regard. There are professionals out there who contradict him on a few issues.

I read somewhere else that it does methylate but that organic mercury is not more toxic so it doesn't matter ???? If you are mercury toxic and have experience with b12 supplements (including injections) please post here. thanks

I need to find this out ASAP. Does anybody know if organic mercury is more toxic???

I use MB12 (the methylated form) and have used it for two months. I can only tell you that in my case it has helped my recovery. It is important to note that some people do well on B12 and some cannot tolerate it. The book "Amalgam Illness"
says that poor methylation (usually due to folate and B12 deficiency), is common in mercury poisoning, as are yeast infections, allergies, and many other problems. It goes on to say that correcting these may make us feel a lot better. In my case, it helps. Again, there are those who cannot take it.

Methylcobalimin is the methylated form?

How do you take MB12? Is it that cool nasal spray I seen on tv?

hmmm, that would explain why I feel so much better when I take folic acid supplments (which have B12, B2, B6 and choline also in there).

Makes me feel better not worse. I take the folic acid supplements 2-3 times per week, general B supplements almost every morn. No problems with B's here, much better with them. Amalgams still in btw and no issues with B vitamins at all. Maybe intolerance is caused by another combination of factors in some people, but unless you know for sure you are intolerant, probably a good idea to take them.

James, I wish that I could get that nasal form. If you ever see a number or website to order it from would you post it.

I take it in a sublingual liquid form that I order from VRP.

So Sick, I do well with B vitamins too.

I use a sublingual form. This particular item is not methylated, however.

B12 Complete, Liquid

thanks russ. what role does b12 play in mercury toxcity in your opinion?

Here's the short answer...

Mercury inhibits an enzyme which methylates B-12. Without memethylcobalamin (methylated B-12), your homocysteine levels rise and glutathione production is inhibited.

Elevated homocysteine causes heart disease, high cholesterol, and many claim is causes brain fog and fatigue.

Glutathione is the body's natural defense mechanism against heavy metals (which is ironically blocked by mercury).

Unfortunately, B-12 is involved in the methylation of mercury which essentially makes it able to pass through cell walls (bad).

So...

B-12 is a catch-22. You may benefit from it but it enables mercury transport in the body.

Solution?

If you are able to have homocysteine levels checked, and if they are high, or you are able to get your cholesterol levels checked and they are high, you may want to supplement with a premethylated form of B-12 a little to get your homocysteine and/or cholesterol levels under control.

If you're not able to get these things checked, you may have to rely on how you feel to determine if B-12 will help you.

In short: I would not use B-12 as a detox agent. I would only use it to buffer the effects of mercury toxicity or mercury detox if you need to. If it makes you feel better, it's probably helping to solve a problem you have.

If you want to raise glutathione levels in the body—not a bad idea if you're detoxing mercury—you can use N-Acetyl Cysteine. Start slow and always use Algin with it.

Hope this helps.

Hi there.
I just wanted to share. I have been supplementing B12 for a couple years now. One was the sublingual B12 from NSP. I have been eating liver at least once a week, taking all kinds of stuff with all the B"s in them.
When I had my B12 levels checked even after fasting for 12 hours my B12 levels are through the roof! I mean over 2000! I'm like well...... I guess I'm getting enough B12. I went to my Osteopath MD, the one who's been helping me with my back, neck and TMJ and she does her exam and says "I'll bet your deficient in B12" I showed her my labs and she said "that's just your blood level at the time, it has nothing to do with what's in your cells. "

She told me to take B12 injections of a certain kind, can't remember the name at the moment.
Check out this forum at http://forums.wrongdiagnosis.com/showthread.php?t=9948 It will explain alot of what us mercury toxic people are going through with Vitamin B12 dificiency,
Sally Pacholock RN the author really seems to know her stuff, and I plan on starting B12 injections very soon.
She does say get test in B12, MMA test (Methylmalolic acid) and homocystine test.
Apparently those of us who cannot utilize B12 don't have enough intrinsic factor and problems producing enough gastrin.

Veggiemom (sorry I did not log in)