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#18158 04/27/07 09:57 PM
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hi, i will post more on this later, but since having my fillings out, by proper protocol, my life has been destroyed, i lost everything, partner, friends, independance, i gained smoking, left only with the ability to get to the backyard for this daily ritual, and obessive flashing in my mind thinking that takes me constantly to regrets of my past, and plays them out like a hell 24 hours a day. its been 4 months i've done dmsa ncd, msm, dmps, dmsa, 30 days at health retreat, saunas charcoal, energy therapies, all of it, my hair analysis of mercury recently showed its lowest level in 18 months, so i'm HOPING its out and not in deep tissue cuz i did a lot during past months leading up to hair analysis, and i think my mind and body is in TOTAL shock, and it will take time to snap out of it. i went through a phase of cutting and burning myself, and overdosed about a month ago, i have had a tendancy to play sick as the only way to fit in with our family, but this is quite a real problem. it is a very dark time, i live with my parents and they will be going away for 6 weeks, i dunno i will do, its very scary, seriously seriously scary. i often am totally terrified for no reason, and have this aweful feeling at the back of my head,

#18159 04/27/07 11:27 PM
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benza
have you looked in to cavitations many ppl have found this is why there not getting better worth looking in to i think.

#18160 04/28/07 12:00 AM
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Benza, you're not alone in this, it happens more often than anybody would want to admit. The removal of amalgams does NOT always result in immediate or even soon after improvements and even some done perfectly do not always either.

The repoisoning that can result not only from increased exposure during removal, but the shock of having no more mercury going into your system, the body can begin to erupt and start leaking out the stored mercury.

Dont' be fooled by testing for mercury, it's notoriously inaccurate and does nto always give a true indication of what is really going on.

No the mercury will not be out in a matter of months. It is most likely leaking out of your organs and making you very ill. Please do not take any notice of the hair analysis test, but instead concentrate on one of the safest chelation protocols i KNow of.

Solution to mercury detox is most often not the high sulfur supplements wer'e told to take like MSM etc, which week mostly to mobilise it and make matters worse for many. DMSA is good, but mainly only if it is used safely every 4 hours around the clock at a tolerable dose (e.g. 25 mg) for a few days non stop, then off for a break and repeating this cycle over until there is an eventual reduction of blood/urine mercury.

Please do not give up, I believe your body has gone into shock as you have suggested because it is no longer in storage mode, but rather slow dumping mode.

Happens to some/even many people and is a serious nightmare. I have to ask you first of all, have you tried Andy Cutler's chelation at all? His is the safest and most effective I know of. It seeks to keep blood levels of DMSA even, so the movement of mercury is also more even , safer and is more liekly to come out, rather than be shifted dangerously around.

Then I have to ask are you following a candida diet to help you with "some" symptoms?

Strict candida diet with essential proteins and fats, plus safe chelation seem to be much more effective than random chelation, high sulfur supplements and a lot of cleanses which may instead week to worsen the problem.

This is not about energy therapies, fancy cleanses, liver flushing an dall those things, this is about serious toxicity from mercury, a heavy metal. The most effective methods is serious and safe chelation and the aid of diet and maybe some basic supplements if tolerated..

You are already overwhelmed and cleansing this and that, may simply be too much for you. I wish I knew exactly what was gonig on, and one can only really assume if you are not getting answers from where you are.

I am only passing on advice I have received myself throughout the years that has been the only thing that has helped me and many others. Through much trial and mistakes, these were the only real helpers for me.

It is really awful what this stuff can to you and your life. I can't believe it either when I look back and it just amazes me. I hope you can find some support and strength on this forum and I hope that maybe you can get some of these symptoms under some form of control.

But yeah, amalgam removal can really cause a person to go into shock sometimes and end up a basket case. Tracy on here went through it and still is, probably near enough to the same time you have been going through this. She knows full well what this is like and she too had thorough safe amalgam removal.

#18161 04/28/07 12:20 AM
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Benza,

I would venture to guess that you're detoxing way, way too fast.

Please remember, it took years for mercury to travel into your tissue. It will take years to safely remove it, however, you're life does not have to be bad during that time.

Detox should be slow and gently, in my opinion.

Please let us know what we can do to help.


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#18162 05/18/07 05:03 AM
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wow, there is an enormous amount of new threads, i had to go back and find this one!

ok, no i am under the care of gp/holistic practitioner who is doing everything they can to slow or stop the chelating or get it tolerable, it was this approach that i tried for the first 4 months except NCD. i would describe my mental health prior to this as exceptional, over the 6 weeks of 4 fillings being removed, ESPECIALLY after the last one (the day i began smoking from an internal mental pain beyond all of my imagination like being burned all over your body except in your mind) i have been left completely and utterly incapacitated, if i make it around the block for a walk, it is a huge day, the other day i drove 45 minutes, and it took me days to recover.

my opinion on mercury filling removal after 5 months is that if you are healthy, never EVER touch them or as a last resort have them pulled, and think of it as risky as braiin surgery.

i feel in 10 years time, the best result is i live in constant incomprehensible suffering from now until.. i don't know when, but because of some unforseen factor, i avoided something like MS, because of the need to have them out. i never thought that i'd be saying something like that. the plan was. "i'm feeling fine, life is good i'm happy, this should make me more energetic or clearer headed" instead it turned into the former statement where i begin comparing being burned and avoiding MS, as a long shot attempt at making positive something that has been (beyond words)

the fact that i had come to a point in my life of developing positive relationships all of which are gone, and had built a life after a lengthy chronic fatigue bout, to be hit by mercury removal, is incredible (no language will suffice)

the woman that now believes i'm a changed person (who we were about to have children, move into house etc etc) and rest of people who turned against me due to misunderstanding of this toxic condition have also lost more than they know. me.

i'm still the same dude, the fact that they couldn't see the (i knew one of them 8 years, one 3 months) good side of me which i always was, incredibly empathic,, was still me and think of it like i described to them as if i was on a bad drug trip and just at least be there while i'm having this hard time, or be there in a way where they will give me a chance once i'm out of it.

how people who i gave huge energy effort, love, laughter, money, support, and LOVE, all of me, could leave me at this time, when they were not so bad people ( i know this) is disasterous, hurtful, honestly in the end their loss mainly, and mine, lose/lose

it took 2 weeks of me being withdrawn and defensive and paranoid/narssisitic for everyone i knew who i held close to decide i was this new BAD person despite all the laughter tears/movies/plane flights/ staring into eyes/ talking on the phone for hours at a time/ hugs/ALL OF IT.

if it were me, someone i had these connections with, would be able to come back to me 10 years later explain what happened and i would understand.

2 weeks?! you gotta be kidding, if this is the story of half reasonable people, as i surrounded myself with mostly giving people, i would hate to see what tthe people whjo really don't care are going throug and giving out.

does anyone care or love or BELIEVE anymore? is loyalty anywhere?

anyways under this dull dead emotional state i am in now, is a expression i have said b4, over and over to parents, the only ones left,

i am seriously alone, and altered in a way that isolates me,

God and the angels help the mercury poisoned and shine light on this darkness, delivered unseen throughout the world (oh yeah the psych drugs too)

#18163 05/18/07 05:10 AM
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ps i am reading everything so please feel acknowledged people who posted, i simply have no emotional response to it, but thank you for your time and effort in writing.

#18164 05/18/07 08:17 AM
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Benza

you are not the only one to be disappointed in people's response to your illness. I personally lost my best friend, who had had chronic fatigue herself, and who knew me very well. She turned on me suddenly, saying she no longer wanted to see me, that I was a complete pain to everyone around me (only I couldn't see it), and I was incredibly selfish. Coming when I felt at my very worst, I can't tell you how much that hurt. I was very disappointed in her, and it was the last thing I expected from her as a devout Christian. I felt lost, betrayed, bereft. Still do, and it's nearly 9 months ago. When you're ill you find out who your real friends are. None of my friends, who knew me before I got sick, understand what's going on, why it;s taking such a long time to get better, why I don't believe in doctors, why I have to be so careful with my diet, and to be honest, I have stopped talking about it. I only talk about my illness with other mercury-toxic people, and pretend to be OK-ish whenever I see my old friends. I don't go out to parties and generally I don't see them very much any more. Sad, but I have kind of got used to my own company now. I have found comfort in my local church, and the advice of one who said - you must just be, not do, for now. And that's OK. My husband has stuck by me - though I must have driven him mad as well, and he doesn't really understand the whole thing - and my parents are supportive, but don't really understand either. In hard times, close family is all that sticks by.

I'm sorry to hear about your girlfriend, but I think these responses are very common when people get sick. It is not an easy time, but count the blessings that you have. And concentrate on getting well safely. That's all that's important for now.

Nicola

#18165 05/18/07 10:25 AM
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I was there too, exactly where you are at. It let up a little on its own after about a year. You need to beleive two things...

1. This is the mercury causing this. (your case sounds exactly like mine, I wasn't like this before)

2. Mercury can be removed, and many of your body functions will return to normal if it is. (It is suppressing and altering your body processes while it is present, if you remove it, normal function will resume. Kind of like sitting on one of those big exercise balls. While you are sitting on it the ball will be supressed, out of shape. Once you get off of it the ball will return to its normal shape. You just need to find the right way to detox. I tried several ways, all of which made me worse. I got the Amalgam Illness book and have done the protocol and supplement suggestions and the improvement was immediate and continues to get better and better)

Make yourself believe those two things, and it will help you get motivated to find the right help to get better. It may be hard, not because both of those things aren't absolutely true (they are) but because the mercury makes it hard to find hope.

#18166 05/19/07 04:25 AM
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Sorry to hear what you're going through Benza. I don't know what to say except that you're not alone.

I have to live with the fact that friends and family often get that "glazed over" look when I bring up the subject of mercury. It's so sad that there is so much distrust between people about the ability for someone to analyze their own situation, but even though I had a dramatic recovery, I still get the glazed look.

Please keep us posted.


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#18167 05/19/07 06:27 AM
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Hi Benza, I could relate to everything you stated. It's unreal to go through it and even more shocking when people you thought you could trust and that were true friends leave you. Ive seen some harsh things since I got toxic and it played havoc with my mind and body, I lose a relationship once I got like that. My friends weren't overly interested and all I had were my parents left. I should be thankful they remained!

They ended up being my true friends. And of course, not forgetting my fellow sufferers on here. They are the one I hold dear. The rest? As far as I'm concerned "fair weather friends". all I can say is, God help them if the same happens to them.

I would hope that I would remain by their side regardless. But it's tempting to say "stuff you, I'm ok, have a taste of your own medicine". But again, what would that make me?

So just know that you're in good company in this. It's a shocker eh? Nothign prepares you for what happens when you cop toxicity like this and how people respond to you from that moment on. You will discover that you're left with very few people standing by your side.

And like yourself, for me it's really ahrd for me to respond emotionally to things. I seem to feel nothing. Deadness and even when someone does something nice, I go through the motions of gratefulness and yet, I lack feeling. It's odd, but something I have had to deal with. yet I feel anger and grief tremendously, but not love, joy, or excitement. Before this illness, I was full of feeling, emotion and felt like "me". After this, I feel like I don't know who I am anymore. It's hard to know how to act because I dont feel like myself. I have to just do things and speak and answer, but I'm like a robot half the time.


#18168 05/19/07 02:43 PM
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Yeah, I hear you all.

I've only struggled for 4 months with a health issue, but I found friends just don't want to deal with it.

I understand, and as a guy, I tend not to expect nurturing from my friends. That said, I found that not only do friends/people not help, they also are sure to mock and belittle, especially behind your back.

I guess even that doesn't surprise me or make me bitter. It's just the way people are. Kind of sucks.

#18169 05/19/07 10:48 PM
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I often times wonder if it's better to have no friends than fake friends. I feel I have to be fake when I'm with my "friends", thus I normally prefer to just be by myself. I imagine these kind of "friends" can only hinder any sort of recovery from mercury toxicity, but it's not all that great to be on your own either...

#18170 05/20/07 01:09 AM
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I had to go get IV Chelation (EDTA + DMPS) for 2-3 months to overcome what it sounds like you've got, every bone in my body hurt, I couldn't walk without limping, the burning, everything and much more you are not mentioning, and I certainly could not run. Previous to the incident I was very healthy and did lots of running. The IV Chelation has helped enormously, but it wasn't overnight. Sounds like you are very posioned like I was.

I am real sure that without the IV chelation I would still be suffering, and possibly worse, possibly dead. You might consider doing as I did and locate an integrative med DR that will do the IV, only heavy duty direct cleaning of your blood will help if it's anything like I experienced, which was hell.

I am better now, can run again, but it took a few months. You might also consider a colonic or 2 or 3, if you ingested mercury it's in your stomach/colon, and spreading from there. A colonic or 2 will flush it out quickly.

#18171 05/20/07 05:56 PM
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what kind of colonic do you recommend?


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