Thanks you guys for all your feedback. Its the answer my flesh did not want to hear but I know I need to let caffeine go. Ive quit it maybe 80 times ( much like people trying to quit smoking). The reason I always seem to go back is becuase of the extreme tiredness, mental fog, and anti socialism. But I almost have all my amalgams out so maybe this time I can do it. How long does it take to start getting energy back and my mental state? Love you all, Diane