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#15590 01/30/07 03:28 AM
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Hello, does anybody here no anything further about this? Somebody highly qualified on here mentioned this and I am very concerned. I have used and on occassion still do to try and chelate and I recommend it. i feel shocked that this could be true.

How do we know?? What evidence is there for this? Does anybody know and can you add anything further about that?

Thanks

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I have also ben using DMSA and am now very worried indeed, I may E-mail Andy Cutler and ask his advice. I cant believe he would encourage us to take something that would do us more harm.

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This just has to be *******. I wouldn't worry about it. I sincerely believe there is no mercury in DMSA.

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Hi Bex, could you tell us who said it, maybe we could ask that person where he got the information.

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Hi, yes it was Dr Hesham El-Essawy....and the thing is, I've heard this before too I think, but hearing it again is gotten me worried. I hope your right, I'd be shocked if Andy Cutler would subscribe to such a drug with it containing mercury like that..... I'd be stunnned. Hes a biochemist for starters and has studied mercury for many years, curing himself of the toxicity, plus treating both adults and kids....

I wish he'd get on here himself about that one.

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I don't belive that mercury is part of the DMSA product. It could be that certain brands with 'impure' DMSA contain small amounts of mercury? Today almost everything can have small amounts of mercury in it.

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RayGee on the other thread said

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DMSA is not without controversy, there are many articles detailing problems with DMSA and DMPS.

As I understand it, if you had a mercury vapour testing machine that was accurate, it would be easy to test whether DMSA had any mercury in it by gargling it or even testing or vapours when excreting from a challenge test. Simple and logical.


But if DMSA chelated the mercury from the vapour exhaled when you gargle or you had mercury in your mouth (if your toxic), surely it would show up mercury in the DMSA in your mouth?

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Bex,
I heard this from Bee's website as well. Do a search on dmsa and you will see. The thing is... She did not site any source.
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HI, thanks everyone for your responses. Not sure what to think but where's there's smoke, there maybe fire.

I respect Bee a lot, so she probably has a strong point. I will go check thing out over the net though.

The odd thing is, I had a re-exposure to mercury from a dental office. I had bad symptoms, flu like and very ill. Only when I started chelating with DMSA, was I able to clear some of it back out....

So what am I to make of that? hmmmm, confusing.

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I'm not PHd chemist, but... DMSA's chemical formula is:

HO2CCH(SH)CH(SH)CO2H

Doesn't seem to be any "Hg" atoms in there. :-) I don't think you need to worry about Hg being in DMSA. While I'd like to take credit for this discovery, I have to thank wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimercaptosuccinic_acid


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Wikipedia also say that mercury can't be removed from the brain, which is nonsense.

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Yeah I don't know about the accuracy of their claims about that, but the chemical formula for DMSA is as above. There is no mercury in it... That is until it traps a mercury atom and escorts it out of your body...

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Well, I brought up the statement regarding DMSA containing mercury on the adult metal chelation group and was told that it is a false rumor.

But why on earth would people say such a thing in the first place? what is there to gain? Certainly, I'm not convinced either way anymore. I'm confused and wish there was a solid answer.

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Wilkipedia is written by people like us, and we can change and add to what is written. As far as DMSA containing mercury this seems to be very strange to me. Maybe the DMSA itself gives a false reading on vapour meters? If anybody has access to a meter it would be interesting to find out

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Hi Richard, someone did say that it's possible that due to DMSA's ability to grab mercury tightly, that any mercury at all in any lab where DMSA happens to be, that could be what the DMSA has picked up (if any).

I don't see otherwise how DMSA could contain it. It is not fish! doesn't come from the sea, it's not in the crush of the earth.....so how else does mercury get in, if at all?

Also, this does not explain why DMSA helped me when I had a new exposure to mercury. I was re-exposed to mercury from being in a dental office and got VERY ill after it. EVeryday I waited to improve, but my body does not eliminate toxins well and tends to hold them in.

I started taking DMSA (andy cutler style) and began to see improvements and was able to chelate some of this re-exposure back out!

Now how would that be possible if DMSA contains significant mercury? i would have been further poisoned, particularly as I am someone highly sensitive to mercury and I react almost immediately to it. i hardly see how I would have improved one bit if DMSA was contaminated.....

So not sure what to think there.

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Bex

I read Linda Jaytee's response to you on this issue on FMC (or AMC?) and, like her, I think there could be a financial agenda behind the statement that DMSA contains mercury, especially if you use or sell herbal remedies.

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I don't personally have knowledge of DMSA containing mercury, but I have been exposed to exquisite disinformation campaigns.

An example is the quackwatch website. (I'm not putting a link here because I don't want to help the search engine positioning of this disgusting and deceitful website).

This organization and its website is a small leg of the NCAHF (National Council Against Health Fraud) and is funded by pharmaceutical companies. They continually try to discredit the entire alternative health movement. Why? Because the pharmaceutical companies are losing billions per year because of the truth behind alternative medicine.

To see the truth about the deceitful pharmaceutical-funded quackwatch website, check out http://quackpotwatch.org. You may also want to check out a small article I wrote about them in response to their article about amalgams being perfectly safe.

Another tactic used by pharmaceutical companies is to discredit people in the industry (kill the messenger). For example, Kevin Trudeau. This man is a hero in the industry and has done much to uncover the "unholy alliance" between the FDA, the FTC, and large pharmaceutical companies.

Adversaries of the truth will point out that Kevin has a "criminal background", yet, numerous alternative health practitioners—who have helped heal many—have been raided, held at gunpoint, and convicted of crimes (that are not really moral crimes) simply because they are exposing the truth about the immoral activities of the FDA, or they are healing people and proving new medical techniques that actually work against diseases. These truth-loving family-run small business owners now also have a "criminal background".

I have personally heard the stories of many small business owners who were helping people who had no (zero) complaints against them and were raided at gunpoint and had their stock of products totally cleared from the shelves.

An example I have personal contact with is the clinic that did the initial DMPS sessions for me and Laura. (Scroll down a few paragraphs under the heading "Now about the clinic raid".)

You will also notice that Kevin's books (on Amazon) have a host of extremely polarized "reviews". There are those who love the book. There are those who hate the book. If you carefully analyze the group of "reviews" that hate the book, you will notice that many of them seem to be worded and stylized to as to indicate that they may be from the same person attempting to appear as a large number of different people. It's very interesting.

Finally, I would point out that words of one of the greatest consumer advocate laywers, James S. Turner, Esquire:

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"One of the things that political scientists say quite frequently is: Very shortly after a regulatory agency is created, it gets captured by those it regulates. ...I think they're totally wrong. I believe [color:"red"]they're born captured[/color]; They do not come into existence until the industry needs them."

Cheers.

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Below is a repost of the clinic raid story:


Now about the clinic raid:

This clinic was participating in a study out of the University of Texas using Aloe Vera IV to fight cancer. They were supposedly having excellent results and were testing on volunteers who had done everything else and were looking to this as their last hope.

Laura and I actually spoke at length with many of these people because they did the Aloe IV in the same room we did the DMPS/vitamin C IV. As I remember, they had indeed tried everything else and were volunteering to do this and having great results.

Most were of retirement age and were very knowledgeable about the subject of natural/alternative health. Others were a little "younger" on the learning curve and had that hunger for information we (who know) already have.

According to the Doctor (everyone there called him Dr. Joe—a really nice guy who really cares about what he does), the ATF (if I remember right) and FDA came in and held guns to their heads point-blank. They were told to turn over all the information relating to the University of Texas study. Then their office was searched, computers were conficated, the Aloe was taken, files were thrown all over the place and the Feds left, never to be heard from again.

Of course, the study was effectively halted because this Fed action was aparrently coordinated with events at the University which made it clear that the Feds didn't want the study to continue. Since this event, several of the test volunteers who were in remission have died.

There was an article in the newspaper and the event was on the news—twisted and containing plenty of omissions of course. Another local alternative medicine newspaper did an excellent article which they said could be published anywhere by anyone. I will be placing in on my website (RussTanner.com) soon.

Many people don't realize how many federal raids occur in this country every week. There is no trial. There is no conviction. Only people using guns in a threatening way taking action under the color of law.

There are a number of books documenting this subject. My current favorite is called Racketeering in Medicine. It's a fast-paced names/dates/places kind of book written by a doctor: Excellent read.


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