thanks Bex for your input,whether you are popular or not I feel you stand out as a sort of beacon of fairness and are very necessary to this forum. When I spoke of a witch hunt I think I was reacting to the other ongoing saga of the Mexican dentist and his mouthpiece/spokesperson/sidecar and I don't think Hesham is the same kettle of fish at all.Thats enough cliches for one night from me but viva la truth, whatever that is .