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NDF is incredible for chelation, it has taken away all but one of my symptoms. Why arn't more people on it?
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Joined: Jun 2006
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Because some people have been harmed by it. It's different for everyone and hard to know what will work for who. If you got better on that alone, then your system is obviously working right and is able to eliminate the mercury with the help of NDF. Other people have problems, so that the mobilised mercury can make them much worse.
One girl took NDF and was almost bedridden for two years (as far as I know, she is still not coming right). Although my view on this is, she may have had a stored load of mercury and the NDF may have erupted it, or pushed the storage into offloading into her blood, as this can happen even on its own sometimes, or it can take something to start it off.
But at any rate, there is risks attached to many chelation therapies and so very hard to know what will work for everyone. I only know one that cuts down the risks of mobilising mercury and concentrates more on removing it and many are on that and improving (protocol by Andrew Hall Cutler (biochemist).
NDF may be just right for you and is obviously doing the job. You should stick to it. I have tried it and had varying things occur, I am in no hurry to try it again, but I am in a bad conditioin with other issues as well as mercury (which might be why).
There are some people who seem to perpetually struggle and remain somehow unwell, others seem to heal and get on with their lives. I assume that those who remain unwell have multiple problems, not just mercury. Those who are poisoned and ill, but mercury is the main issue, can seem to come right over time with detox.
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Joined: Sep 2006
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I know of someone who had great results with it also so it obviously works for some people. Also "Novakite" was starting to use it as well, perhaps if they are still reading this forum they may have something to say too.
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Hi Jid, yes I have heard good also and bad. I think some of us mercury people have stuffed up detox pathways and gut problems and this is why we do not do well on many mercury detoxes.
You know Dr Imbeau talks about that and he knows what condition I'm in in this area, which is not good. My gut, but also my liver pathways were in such a bad way that he even told me to stop using all those detox products (NDF especially). he said if you continue, youwill worsen the problem.
But even now I have issues. I have to accept that this is how I am and I go through hell anytime I'm exposed to a toxin, or I try to eliminate. I have attempted to help these problems, and it can help but it takes a LONG time to improve and anything at all that happens tips me right back down again.
So NDF may not be the issue, it's probably so many other aspects to a person's detox system that is just not handling the mobiisation of toxins.
Certainly one can always try a very small dose and see how they go. But I would always advise anybody get your gut and liver right before you do, or you'll regret it big time.
Even the maker of NDF is fed up with people taking his product and then complaining it's made them much worse. He said that they take it at their own risk, as they do not address and support the liver (and gut of course) beforehand and during. He's so careful that he says not to take it at all until you have test the PH levels in your body with saliva and urine and checking on whether they are acid or alkiline and what to look for and when you are safe to go forth with NDF.
Again though, people may get away with using it, but you can see what "can" happen. personally if this is the case, then he should have a pamphlet that comes with the NDF outlining this to people and giving a caution and advice on it. HE doesn't do this, which is not actually very good if his product can be capable of causing a long term backlash.
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Anonymous
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It worked for me in the beginning and I felt great , then i started to feel terrible, i am still recovering from this. I believe it removed mercury from the brain and i felt better because of this but after a while too much mercury was moved and it was too much for my body to handle. I would start very very slow and wait for a week or 2 before increasing the dose. Don't gamble with your health.
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I heard a very similar account from a guy across email. He was using NDF and telling people that this stuff was GREAT. He felt he was healing from mercury and all was coming right.
Well, I don't know what happened, but not long after that? He ended up in such a severe state, he was mostly bedridden and so ill, he was desperately trying to get help. He could hardly function.
I don't know what happened to him, I lost touch. But the poor guy was a mess and was very upset about what happened and tried to get help from the guy who made the stuff, but of course, he did not get a response.
I don't know what happened after that.
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Anonymous
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Jid,
Yes I've been on NDF for almost three months now at the max dose. I feel great. Heart palputations gone, sickness, neck pain, heavy chest-hard breathing...all gone. I do have calf twitching still but is getting better every week. Bex is right, you have to have your elimination pathways in order to take this stuff. PH balance is good but not essential, can take liverlife also to resolve liver(pathway) issues.
I have been in constant email with Tim Ray (bioray labs) in Switzerland, he has guided me through the process.
Read as much as you can about it and where you need to be to take it, then try it! Use one drop to start and ramp up, you will see early on if you have some negetive healing crises. Anything is worth a try.....you have to help yourself, no-one else will...be your own doctor and research everything.
Get blood, hair and urine tests, it's not definitive but it gives you some guidelines.
Good luck!
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Hi Novakite, that is great!!! You are obviously going about it the right way and this is why people get into so much trouble often, they do not prepare the pathways (me included).
Keep up the good work! and yep, liverlife is supposed to be the way to go when you take this stuff and sometimes the ph testing is good too.
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