Some of you may have read my recent post on possible mercury in the brain after the dentist visit 5 weeks ago. Well guys... after 5 weeks, I can say I'm a living deadman.

That's how I feel. I don't feel a human anymore, let alone myself, I feel like a walking zombie - and it's not just a ... yeah, can't find the right word... an analogy, I guess. That's what I feel like.

Went yesterday to see thge new bond flick, Casino Royale. It didn't stir me (no pun intened) at all. I felt NOTHING , it didn't spark any emotions in me, plus I couldn't follow the plot. I couldn't understand what was going on.

I feel like regressed a lot mentally. I have no intelligence at all. I feel as if I had thousand of splinters in my brain, as if the brain matter in me hardened. I feel sooo afraid that I'm having some permanent brain damage from the mercury in my brain. Everything feels so scarse, one-dimentional, I feel detached from reality. I REALLY FEEL like a dementia patient.
I feel emotionally dead, I scream at my parents, my mother cries asking me to spare her some of her nerves that come from me shouting, but I don't feel like emortionally compelling. I feel no empathy. I forget things I knew a couple of weeks ago - that particulary pertains to language. Have trouble finding the right word, or finding the meaning for the right word. I feel like parts of my brain have evaporated, like from billions of nerve connections there are only thousands left.

I have absolutely no motivation. I just sit there, in my room doing nothing.

I have never felt so bad, like a mental retard.

Surprisingly. I don't have much of other mercury symptoms. No muscle twitches, (which were very coommon before the mercury removal), no burning, no liver/kidney pain. I'm thinking my kidneys/liver aren't exctreting it all, and it all cumulates in my brain. I know this, because only after taking some liver herbs did I feel some clearence in the fog at the same time getting liver pain.

I really feel this is the end for me.

yes, i feel much like this too. I feel nothing inside and I walk around trying to 'act" human, yet i feel nothing and also spend most of my life in my room doing next to nothing or staring at this screen.

I think a lot of it is the brain are the signals are so blocked and being interferred with that you end up feeling brain dead or totally lacking in feeling and emotion. There is nothing there because it's blocked off. The only emotions I feel is fear and anger, but I don't 'feel" love or joy or interest. I too watch TV or a movie and I can't stand it because I can follow it and I am putting up with continual symptoms anyway. I just go to my room.

When you went to the dentist 5 weeks ago, what was done? because one visit to a dental office for me (just by being there, no work), is enough to repoison me and it goes into my brain straight away, as I have no protection. I blieve I have a damaged blood brain barrier, which allows for immediately toxicity to occur when I'm there and thereafter.

I was there and it is horrible, but hang in there it gets so much better. Are you taking anything to remove the mercury such as algin and/or selenium? Also, magnesium helps with the screaming and impatience thing along with MANY other benefits.

HI Missy, the first experience i had with this was getting better and yes it does after time. My second experience was no longer getting better after other things occured to my health that has done me in permanently. HOwever, yes I was improving from mercury once and yeah a person does indeed heal. It takes time.

However, if a person is done in with viral infetions, other infections, this can destroy or stop recovery as it did with me. I've been like this for years now and nothing changes from one year to the next, aside from going through one hell after another.

thank u everybody for your words of encouragement.

I have felt all of this before, but the magnitude now is HORRIFIC. If said that I'm now in an Alzheimer or schizophrenia-like state, there wouldn't be even slight exaggeration to it! It's really scary guys, I LITERALLY feel most parts of my brain DEAD!!!!! To call this state a typical brain fog would be a luxury!

Maybe you're right bex, that it's just lack of neurotransmitters, but it really feels like brain death! I'm so afraid I will never recover, although having potentially quite good intelligence in the past, and good personality traits (that never could shine, though because of mercury).

The rubber dam leaked 5 weeks ago during the work on the 2nd tooth, and I swollowed some amalgam, plus the water (with the mercury I assume) kept gathering under my tounge where a portal vein is, plus some mercury vapour (just had shielded nose, no alternative oxygen supply). Right after that misfortunate tooth work finished, I got foggy, but it was still more similair to 'classic' brain fog.

It all progressed, and build up since since then.

Yes, I'm taking selenium, milk thistle, dandelion, vit c, E, plus chlorella (no algin available for me in Poland). In case you wondered if chlorella might have caused partially this reaction, I only see it helping me.

Actually during those last weeks, I have been tryingto support my boyd/cleansing however I can, but it doesn't seem to do much.

I do see some correlation, though. I had the visit on thursday, and the worst days seem to be the weekends, week by week! I know it has sthg to do with immunity rebooting every 7th day.

I also got visually older within those weeks, but that's ony my impression, since noone told me that in the face.

Do you think it's all due to mercury build up in the blood?

jinx. I started doing chelation and hit a point where I started feeling really bad emotionally. No motivation. I would spend hours playing this stupid game on my computer. Mindless type. I was crying everyday and having very negative thoughts. Also feeling very frustrated and forgetful. My shoulders hurt just putting on a shirt. I was also worried that the mercury was getting redeposited in my brain. Then I started taking algin. Wow. I can't believe the difference! It really feels like a miracle to me. My mind is clear and I am in a good mood! 80% of the pain is gone in my shoulders. The only thing that is worse is my eczema. Read the thread about algin. Russ has a lot of informative information and links in it. I'm taking it along with the chelation agents my doctor gave me (EDTA and DMSA).
You may want to take it for a while until you start feeling better and then add in a greens powder or chlorella.
chigirl

jinx. I think we were posting at the same time. If you can not buy the algin capsules, maybe you can buy brown seaweed? The ingredients on the algin bottle say it is Sodium alginate from brown seaweed. If you are in a big city, you may have an Asian area. I bought it once and ate it like a pasta with some veggies. It actually tasted pretty good.
Hope this helps.
chigirl

small town, sorry. I will look for it, but I'm afraid it may not be that good of an idea, since it may already contain mercury in it, as most sea food do.

Do you think chlorella wouldn't be enough?
How about chitosan, Dr Mercola reccommend it instead of chlorella, I tried it, but couldn't gauge it's effectiveness.

Jinxx, I'm sorry you're going through such a hard time. I really feel for you. Algin has been a lifesaver for me -- truly. I don't know what I'd do without it. I haven't a clue how much it would cost to order Algin here in the US and have it shipped to Poland.

I don't know whether this would help or not -- and I don't speak Polish -- but I found this website. I was wondering if you might want to contact the gentleman on this webpage and find out about finding a source for algin. If you're concerned about quality, purity, etc., from a manufacterur other than NSP, perhaps he could help? Anyway, here is the website for the guy in Poland:

http://mail.roeper.de/Productf.nsf/0/1f48341ad518b258c1256e5b0035b4d1?OpenDocument

SomedaySoon (a/k/a Sharon)

Hi Jinx, the same thing happened to me. I was doing ok in all my amalgam removals and nearly all had NO protection, just suction. The last removal had all the protection, rubber dam and all yet I swallowed mercury because the stupid assistant was doing something else and not paying attention and the stupid dentist took off the rubber dam without making sure all the scrap amalgam had been removed and down they went, I swallowed all of them.

Then I looked at the dentista nd said "I just swallowed all that removed amalgam" and she looked shocked and tried to hide her concern and said "no worries, it'll just pass out of your system". Well if there were "no" worries, why would they try and protect us from swallowing it in the first place? And why as soon as this occured, I went home with tremors in my mouth and cheeks?

My face changed visually after this also. I had a drawn haggard look, plus headaches, crying and salivating and that was it for me. I had to go through the agony of that.

The ONLY chelation that was safer for me, aside from all the other ones with chlorella which served mainly to mobilise mercury more wildly which actually risks more uptake into the brain, was using DMSA but ONLY the safe way. You can buy it online. THis is how I healed back then. I used it at a dose of about 25 - 50 mg and took it every 4 hours as suggested by a biochemist. You must take it also during the night too, so you have to set an alarm. It is every 4 hours around the clock and you do this for about 3 - 7 days straight. and then you take a break of the same amount of time. You continue this cycle for about 3 months until you reduce your mercury load.

Later if you want, you can add lipoic acid to this regime and take it the same way, alone or with the DMSA to clear Brain and organ mercury. Yes these are helping people and yes it was curing me. I got a viral/bacterial infection later which did great damage to me, my immune system and I believe my blood brain barrier, which is why I am now suffering a permanent type condition which I believe is not so much related to mercury anymore.

I can only tell you what DID heal me. You will look older, because the poisoning does that to you. You will gain your younger features back, they came back with me later one when I got healthier and they will with you, but you will continue to look old sometimes and younger other times, depending on what is happening. This is normal and it's not you and don't ever consider it is.

The feelings of deadness are not real, they are blockages. They will switch back on. I have been there and been through hell on earth and should be dead with what I went through. I can tell you Jinx, you must chelate and you must chelate safely and continue to do so. If you take chlorella or other random things, you could risk more wild mobilising of mercury and this may not be helping matters. some people can do this and get away with it, as they might be stronger and it may work for them. Some get worse.

I have had years of misery and been through just about every detox known and the only one that worked was the four hourly DMSA. It reduces the wild movement of mercury and increases the safer elimination of it, but you must be on an anti yeast regime as you know what can happen if your gut and liver are overloaded with yeast and toxins and you try and chelate at the sametime.

My viral infection and other issues were why I regressed horribly and why I am now permanently sick. Otherwise I was healing from mercury poisoning. No doubt about it and before that, I went through the most horrific mental symptoms that I felt as though I were actually in an internal hell.

I had a violent temper, had no feeling for anybody, totally self preoccupied, withdrawn, no interest in life or other people and the suffering it gave me is beyond description. You cannot possibly tell someone how it feels unless they have gone through it and it's disgusting to endure and I have nothing but sympathy for anybody goingthrough it or the ones who end their lives because of it. It is like nothing I've ever known.

The only things that worked for me and I'm almost impossible to get results with is a strict candida diet and being totally gluten free and consuming healthy fats like butter, extra virgin olive oil, organic coconut oils, using DMSA the way I mentioined, plus some basic supplementation like vitamin C, B complex, zinc, magnesium, vitamin E, possily selenium only if tolerated and milk thistle to support the liver (again only if tolerated).

Also you can have hot baths and use epsom salts to encourage some sweating (only if you can handle that) via the skin. And exercise to tolerance, no more than that. Just walking is enough or some rebounding.

That is pretty much all I can suggest for someone who is overloaded and poisoned and some people cannot even tolerate 25 mg of DMSA, they have to go down to 12.5 mg or lower to start. you can increase as side effects allow. personally I find 25 mg probably the best allround dose to start, but depending on what a person can cope with.

Hi chigirl, i am just wondering if you're in chicago area or whatever the chi stands for...if you just curious where you get your Algin from. I got some Algin from Wholefoods, but doesn't do anything for me it seems. Thanks!

Jinx, I feel the same way you do too after removing 11 amagalms in a span of 4 months...I've finished 3 months ago for me and it's slightly better, but i still have my freakin twitches and tingliy pains. I feel the best when I am working and keep my mind focused at work, away from the computer and talking with people. I feel the worse when i don't work, sit around do nothing and when i am on the computer...Because then we'll be thinking alot and have anxiety and depression and a host of new symptoms will appear...It happened to me almost a year ago when i quit my job for 2 months and did absolutely nothing, I felt just like a living deadman too, until I took a month long active backpacking vacation to Asia to bring my spirit back...So anyways, I hope you'll be able to get your hands on some helpful supplements, but I hope you can also try (even though it's hard) to be active socially and physically. Things will get better in the future!

Detachment and feeling hollow is just one aspect of the brain function, not really the intellect but emotional centers. I had that kind of feeling from time to time (which looking back I would place around times I had lots of dental work done; I had 17 amalgams for about 20 years, until this summer, now only 2 left). It is not 'brain death' but just a transient schizophrenia-like depersonalization, detachment. That is one of mercury neuro-toxicity symptoms. It is disabling while going on, it can ruin relations or result in a loss of a job (happened to me 14 years ago), but it is not a permanent brain damage or a state that lasts.

I know this will draw some fire around here, but this is the natural medicine (an ancient medicinal plant, that is available in any country and it should be fairly inexpensive) that helped me come out of such 'feeling hollow' states far better than anything else (see also post2 and post3). In any case, whatever you do, stay away from psychiatrists. If they get their hands on you and start drugging you, then you will end up with a real brain damage for life, emotions, intellect and the rest. When in this delicate, fragile phase be also very careful around regular doctors, or even other people you meet, since they can get you into involuntary psychatric treatment.

Yep, I studied this subject in some depth because I ended up once at the edge of being locked up, after my future mother in-law, who was a university professor of psychology, wanted me "examined" and I was at the time clueless about the traps of the drug-pushing psychiatry, so I went along. Just to talk to a friendly doctor, she said, and I thought, why not, what could possibly go wrong.

So I went and did as she advised. In my detached state, though, I signed some forms they handed me at the clinic, completely mechanically without looking. They were all so friendly, offered coffe and cookies while waiting, so why bother reading. After talking to a nice doctor, then waiting in a room with nothing going on, I decided to get out into the reception area. Two big guys came from behind in the hall, got around me and in front of me, blocked me and said, you can't leave, stay there, you must wait for Dr. Epstein. I was in a great physical shape, competed in college judo at the time and was pretty good at it, so some "interesting" then some quite unpleasant events followed... At the end, there were just too many of them and too few of me. The forms I thoughtlessly signed, in essence handed my rights to them, to keep me and do as they wished until they declare me "cured". Had my parents not been medical doctors, who bailed me right out after I called them in an absolute panic (when I realized these drug-pushers, the so-called psychiatrists, won't let me out and wanted me forcibly drugged), I would have ended up there for life, truly brain dead.

So be very careful who you talk to about it. This will clear on its own, without any of their drugs. As you will find out at the antipsychiatry sites, their whole psychiatric "business model" comes down to using your present temporarily fragile state and turning it into a permanent truly brain-damaged state, a genuine drooling, shaking zombie, resulting in you becoming their permanent patient. Hence, instead of one time real help (which they can't offer, since they are really clueless, beyond their self-serving pretentious jargon, about human brain, or any brain), they make you into a lifelong subscriber to their "services" which are not merely ineffective, but are truly harmful.

Hi airfrance. Yes I am in Chicago, but I bought mine on line from Nature's Sunshine. If you go to the post "thank god for algin" and click on the word Algin that Russ left, it is a link to the same brand I have. I tried it in the past and never really noticed anything either. It wasn't until I took 2 caps 3 times a day that I noticed the difference.
chigirl

Nightlight, that is so scarey.
My dad was diagnosed with Alzeimers at 55 yrs old, he had symptoms yrs before this, anyway as time went on he was still living with my mother, she was caring for him, you could have a decent conversation with him and he could eat by himself, wash, etc, but one day, at the day centre where he went on a daily basis, the carers there said he got a bit violent with another man, so they sectioned him for 2 days in a phsyciatric unit. When they bought him home, he was drooling, he couldnt look at you in the eye, couldnt speak,or walk and had to have a nappy on from that day foreward, he was drugged up to the eyeballs and he didnt recognise any of us again. it was so sad, he is now in a care home, he has parkinsons aswell now.

I was in a deadwoman state after removal, it scared me cos of my dad, we are so alike in many ways, i didnt jave much protection with each removal, only a rubber dam, , i was totally numb in my brain, i couldnt think of anything, no emotions what soever, i had two kids that loved me and it was hard, i felt like a piece of ice.
I remember that i couldnt even watch television.
It has gone now, my emotions have come back with avengeance, i feel depressed and anxious alot, very nervous but not numb anymore.

Hi Dawn, sorry to hear about your dad.

In another thread with Bex, we were talking about her smoking and I brought up some facts about it and its relation to ApoE4 allele, glutathione, mercury neuro-toxicity and early onset Alzheimer's (most common among ApoE4 carriers).

Basically, the people with ApoE4 variant of the gene (which increases in frequency from south to north Europe) have a very sluggish natural mercury detox from the brain. People with ApoE3 (more common in southern and central Europe) and ApoE2 (smaller groups around the world, rare in Europe) gene variants have increasingly more efficient Hg brain detox. I didn't bother getting ApoE test, but based on the fact that 97 percent in the European region of my ancestors have ApoE3, and observing my fairly good tolerance to mercury (unfortunately, I just had too many amalgams, 17, for about 20 years, which is too much mercury for any ApoE type to keep up with on its own), I think it is almost certain (94%) that I have E3+E3 combination.

In your case, though, with family history of early AD and sensitivity to mercury toxicity, depending on where your ancestors came from, you might wish to get your the ApoE polymorphism typed exactly. If it is double ApoE4 (from father & mother), you definitely would want to explore possible ways for more drastic preemptive action.

As far as I know, the only medicine which was shown to drastically reduce odds of early onset Alzheimer's, by a factor of 10, is the ancient medicinal plant, tobacco (also, for people who quit, the risk grows 50% for each 10 years since quitting, see the last paper cited above). If it is not too intrusive question, what was your dad's smoking history? If he smoked, did he quit at some point? In the mentioned Dutch study, in the families with early onset AD, the smoking members with ApoE4 had 10 time lower rates of AD than the non-smoking members with ApoE4.

While there is no official theory as to why does tobacco smoking work (tobacco is extremely complex plant regarding its psychoactive effects; science has barely scratched the surface of its magic), it is known that nicotine isn't how it works (the patches help a bit but not nearly as much as the actual tobacco). My guess is that it is at least in part because of significant stimulation of glutathione production (80% greater baseline levels among smokers). The additional support for this mechanism comes from the fact that smoking also reduces the odds of late onset Alzheimers (by half) and by the same factor two, the odds of Parkinson's. It also reduces risk by factor 2 of developing schizophrenia and among patients it greatly allevites the schizophrenia symptoms (virtually all schizophrenics are heavy smokers). These are all diseases which happen to share symptoms with mercury neuro-toxicity and glutathione is the main internal enzyme for natural mercury chelation. Hence one would expect tobacco smoke to have therapeutic and protective effects in all three diseases, and that is indeed the case.

You should read the thread with Bex on smoking should you decide to test the effects of tobacco, but as noted there, before trusting anyone's theory, trust the signals from your own body. It will know the best whether that will work for you. The additional info there is merely to reassure you that there is a quite a bit more about it than what the simple-minded mass media is peddling about tobacco and its effects. The chief tobacco-related harm is not from the ancient medicine itself but from the negative placebo, or witch doctor effect induced by our present anti-smoking zeitgeist. Hence, if it works for the stuff that matters to you, to get the mercury out of your brain and protect you against early onset AD, you can without fear ignore all the anti-smoking propaganda (which is a profit driven BS), since that brainwashing, with the resulting negative placebo, is the only harm one needs to worry about.

No I don't think this is the end. I think what you experience is a healing crisis. Consider taking algin and some natural antidepressant like st.johns wort can help you. I had a similiar experience and still recovering from this. You will get better but you have to be patient. St. Johns wort has helped me a lot in this difficult situation. Without the mood lifting and calming effects of it life can be terrible during detox. I know that is very difficult but don't spend the whole day thinking about your illness and the mercury in your body. It will drive you crazy because you can't do anything about it. You are getting healthier but it doesn't feel like that..

Hang in there, jinx. Sometimes I feel as good as dead, but there will be better days for us.

Hi jinx,

I too had all your symptoms and more before amalgam and heavy metal removal. My symptoms were so bad it felt like I was drugged, sadated, and drunk with allergies, migraines, dizziness, nausea, parkinsons, and Alzeimers. I was shaking so bad that it felt like I had 10 cups of coffee. Also my memory was so bad that I couldn't speak at all or I slurred my words. It was so bad that if I was able to say anything at all, it was only the first part of each sentence. This is because I would forget the last 1/2 of each sentence every time! All these symptoms would happen all at the same time during the 3rd stages of mercury and heavy metal toxicity, not to mention the 25 other illnessess I had aquired through the years due to mercury and heavy metal poisoning. I knew it was a matter of months or even weeks before I was going to die when I finally discovered the Moorbath.

I can't stress enough how affective this clay bath was to get rid of all the above symptoms for a period of 3 days. I would rub my feet with it and let it dry. Then I would soak my feet in hot water for a 1/2 hour. All the above symptoms would disappear miraculously for 3 days then I would have to repeat the same process again of course!!! It wasn't good enough that I was doing the right protical of suppliments that alot of the people are doing on this forum.

Although I was putting healthy suppliments into my body, I still had to get the mercury and heavy metals out since they were building up in my system dayly from eating, drinking hot liquids, and grinding my teeth at night. I'm not exaggerating when I say how effective yet gentle this clay works.

I still use it now that my amalgams and other heavy metals are out. I also use the LL's magnetic clay baths now which are more mild yet very effective as well. This clay comes with directions on how to use it.

As far as heavy metal toxicity goes it has gotton better and better ever since I started useing theses baths, and even better since I got my amalgams and other heavy metals out. Now I only have to detox every 2 weeks.

If you want to know where to get the Moorbath, then go to www.dermamed.com. Then click to- Specialty products. Then click to- Moorbath. PLEASE NOTE: Do not take the Moorbath if you have high blood pressure. If you want to know where to get the LL's magnetic clay bath then go to Alive and Aware Natural Health E bay store. Chris Hall is very kind and cares more for peoples health than selling his products. Also he has great deals.

I wish more people on this forum would try these clay baths to see what I mean by how affective and yet gentle they are. Most of thoughs who have tryed them also got good results!!! I believe these baths have saved my life!!! These clays have no side affects when used correctly, like alot of people have had with DMPS and DMSA.

I believe this will help you tremendously!!! I hope you feel better soon!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> FROM SCARLET,