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You seemed also to get headaches etc, but this to me seems more of an allergic response, and have you had this with other materials as well with the cheek and gum test?


I have tested about 10 different materials now with the cheek and gum test. So far I reacted to all of them. I would get sinus problems or headaches or swelling of face or body parts. One made my rest hurt a great deal and once the material was out of my mouth, the pain went away. So I reacted to each material differently.



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Have you had a serum test done? It would be veryinteresting to see what shows up on this test with cerec and see if it confirms the oral reaction or not.


I did have the clifford lab test done. I show up negative. I would have to say there are a great deal of false negatives on that test as it really does not show as a reaction with the material in your mouth with saliva present. So it is not a very good test. And what I am finding out is that if you never been reactive to it you can become reactive to it once you are exposed to it as we do not go around eatting toxic material or at least I don't think we do.

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Thanks for the info on the gum-and-cheek testing phxcoop. How is that done? Do you generally just put a sample in your mouth and then sort of suck on it and leave it in for a few hours?


All you do it have them make up a small sample of the material. Big enough to put on the side of your mouth. You suck on it like a hard candle or just let it rest on the side of your mouth. This way it interacts with the saliva, gum line and cheek. You can also touch it with your tounge. This is the only real test to make sure you do not react to it. Blood work and muscle testing are just general guides and that is all they are. I would keep it in as long as I can. You take it out when you eat and sleep.