Hi Jason, no not at all, I didn't think you were minimising my suffering/condition. It's hard to know what exactly a person has been through or for how long. And I think you are right, the body does indeed try and heal itself and if you are doing just about everything right, there is something very very wrong when that process comes to a standstill.

Too many loads on the immune system at once. I totally agree. I have apparently - periodontal gum disease, cavitations (infections the jawbone), incompatible dental materials, and I have a permanent underlining bacteria infection that I got many years ago that has given me a type of chronic fatigue syndome. So I believe my body is unable to assert itself fully to any one problem, as it's juggling them all. Once that happens, I think the person remains in a type of permanent state of not going upwards.

I just have normal composite fillings, no crowns and no amalgam left and none used. I also have a panoramic xray to prove this.

It's good the biologic dentist has a cerec machine, shows it must be pretty good material. It does indeed get used in fillings, all the time. But she may not choose to use it personally. My view is, if you're going to have it as a crown material, you may as well get the other stuff done in the same material as well, so you avoid mixing materials in the same mouth.... just a thought though. And also depending on your reaction with the crowns too.

Thanks for the chapter and verse! One needs to hear things like that, too often we search for manmade answers and forget the other!

All the best and thanks for keeping us posted. YEp, if everybody keeps others informed about what they're doing, what material is used, how they've reacted etc, it'll certainly help others make more informed decisions and hopefully avoid similar mishaps (or total disasters).

P.S. iwould say I have some decay in my teeth, some of my materials are very old, shrunk and need redoing, so it's possible there is decay under them in some teeth.