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I have been chelating for the past 2 weeks with the Heavy Metal Detox. This is my first chelation experience so I would like to share it. Late in the February of 2006, I underwent a large molar mercury removal following the Huggins Protocol. After about 5 months as my blood mercury level was probably down I begun chelating. I’ve been building myself up to start for some time: taking vitamin c, e, selenium, magnesium, zinc, calcium and occasional whey protein shakes containing casein. Then I found out about Nature’s Sunshine and after ordering some of their supplements and trying them, I threw my old ones away and ordered their replacements. Now, equipped with the supplements I ordered 2 more things to add to my repertoire, namely Heavy Metal Detox and 5-HTP powder. The latter one is not a chelator, but is a serotonin rebuilder (like an antidepressant but natural and without side effects). I started to chelate right after my birthday (overseas) on which I also quit smoking as I set myself on the road to health, and since mercury is the cigarette smoke, I did not want any of that as it is counterproductive if you chelate. I started with 1 HMD per day as I was informed by Russ. After popping the first pill I started to feel some effect about half an hour into it. It was occurring in my head and is similar to the one produced by an upper, but with decreased concentration. I suppose that it is all due to the ALA in the HMD. However, knowing that ALA can cross the blood brain barrier only motivated me to start HMD, for I would like to address my mental symptoms a.s.a.p. Also I would take 4 algins between meals so as to mop up all the mobilized mercury. After about 5 days I increased the dose to 2 HMD’s as is suggested on the label. After taking stock of how I feel, I thought that I could tolerate more HMD and so as to speed up the process. However, I forgot Russ’ golden rule that mercury detox is not game of speed but endurance. So going on 2 HMD per day I developed headache and felt depressed. I would like to mention that taking vitamin c w/ bioflavonoids would really help relieve the symptoms but not for long. Now, I am back on 1 HMD per day. So my typical chelation day looks like this:
Breakfast with vit c 2000mg, vit e complete w/ selenium 400IU and 25mcg respectably, magnesium complex 100 mg, 1 pill 5-HTP Power and 1 pill of HMD.
1 hour after I take 4 pills of Algin 3800mg.
Lunch with vit c 2000mg, 1 pill of 5-HTP Power.
1 hour after 4 pills of Algin 3800mg.
Afternoon snack with vit c 2000mg
Dinner with vit c 2000mg, vit e complete w/ selenium 400IU and 25mcg respectably, magnesium complex 100 mg, and 5-HTP Power.
Before bedtime Algin 3800mg to sweep the remaining mercury.
On days when I do not chelate (2 or more days per week, depending on how I feel) I do everything as above, but exclude Heavy Metal Detox. So I protect at all times even when I give my body break from mobilization. Regarding the 5-HTP, I don’t know if it’s all that great. I heard on the radio that it’s supposed to make you feel much happier, and so far I haven’t noticed that, but again I am chelating so mercury is being moved around. Now, I can go like this for as long as necessary to chelate all the mercury out. However there are some nuances. I don’t know if what I am doing is safe! The current thread posted by Bex on ALA made me think what if I am just moving mercury around without any chelation? Then I am doing more harm than good. But as I take plenty of Algin, isn’t that supposed to sweep up all the mobilized mercury? What if as I read on this forum, I am one of those whose body does not mobilize mercury? Does DMSA mobilize it or none chelators do if it’s hereditary? Does DMSA binds to mercury tighter than ciliantro, N-Acetyl-L-cysteine found in HMD? As ALA opens the path to the brain more mercury can be redistributed back in the brain is a scare. But in HMD isn’t everything perfectly blended in right proportion so that that won’t happen. This should be good news for someone like me for HMD mobilizes the organs and the brain simultaneously whilst having the path to the brain unlocked.
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Hi Alex 1
I used HMD a couple of weeks after removal and was very sick, i think i took 2 caps in one day, im not sure, it was way too soon after removal i think.
I got depressed, suicidal, lethargic etc.
If i used them again i would go really slow like a quarter of a capsule to start off with , also i would use Algin.
I might start using them again in a few months, but go slowly this time.

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Hi Dawn,

Yea, taking HMD right after is not a good idea. For once you had the recent mercury exposure and then taking 2 HMD opened the path to the brain and hence lots of mercury got transferred into the brain thanks to the ALA and ciliantro found in the HMD. I think Russ advices to start with clorella first to chelate from the organs before going for ciliantro to chelate from the brain. Russ' chelation is more natural and not as synthetic like Cutler's where DSMA is used for the organs and ALA for the brain. But I verified with him on using the HMD product without firstly chelating from the organs and he said that I should be fine. Now I am thinking about going for a swamp drink and whey protein to chelate from the organs first, while preserving HMD for later. It makes total sence to me to chelate from the organs other than the brain first, because when taking chelators like ALA and ciliantro in a perfect combination that would not take any mercury back to the brain. The only problem is that right now I am overseas and can't get the swamp drink. So in sum for Heavy Metal Detox all should wait to take it until the body organs are free of mercury so that once all take chelators that can cross B.B.B. some or none mercury would travel back to the brain. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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I think you may be right Alex. You seemed to be pretty strong before but if you had that reaction from HMD, I would hold onto it and do the swamp drink for a couple months first and see again.

The good news is that HMD does mobilize mercury, and although it contains ALA, which I believe is good, the best meter to measure how you're doing in terms of detoxing is how you feel.

Just like taking Vitamin C to bowel tolerance, detox is a process of mobilizing mercury until you start to feel bad, and then backing up a little. You'll still feel worse than usual, any good detox will cause that, but if you feel absolutely horrible, you're moving too much mercury at a time.

ALA does cross the blood brain barrier, which is one reason it's so important in mercury detox. You have to mobilize mercury from the sulphur-rich brain at some time or another, but timing is everything and if you're feeling horrible, it may be time to back off a little and work on the lower organs first.

There are plenty of surprises with mercury detox, but the good news here is that we are able to mobilize mercury in you so now we just have to find a balance you can live with.

Keep us posted.

For those interested, the "Swamp Drink" was my primary method of mercury detox. Here's the recipe:

1 Cup of water
1 Scoop of NutraBurn protein
1/4 to 1/3 Scoop of pH Green Zone (contains Chlorella)

Stir until well-blended and drink.


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Wow Russ,
That swamp drink got so much fine ingredients in it, especially the green zone. I will deifinetely do that over anything else I've considered. Can't wait to come back and have some waiting for me so that I can start immediately. I believe you do that like 5 times a week in the mornings before breakfast and then back of of it on the weekends. It will take some time to learn all the benefits it brings. Thanks for that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Just thought I'd add that we can always ship the ingredients for Russ' "swamp drink" overseas, if you'd like. Just contact me via email at laura@herballure.com


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Hi All

I had my last amalgam out July 2006 and have been chelating with ALA since October. During alternating weeks when Im not chelating I take Algin to mop up peripheral mercury.

I've already summarised it in another post - but in a nutshell here I'm feeling fantastic thesedays.

About 3 months ago I decided to add one capsule of HMD to my chelation regime (as said already - only on alternating weeks) And it makes a difference - I feel even clearer, cleaner and more alert than I would otherwise. I definitely recommend it. Must add though that I first started using it approx. 6 months after I started chelating and over 9 months after my last amlgam was removed.

Steve.

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im just going to get all of mine removed and prayerfully my help will bounce back because about three years ago i went through sick months of bad health (directly after getting 13 fillings placed in ) but after that i bounced back and was fine for a couple years now its slowly coming back and i believe if i take all the fillings out my body will heal naturally plus my focus is on the lord because he is where the Victory is !!!


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