Well I had my 15 amalgams removed 8 months ago.

I have started a regime with my doc an antifungal and microbiol supplement that my doc game me for 2 weeks. and now I am on the 2nd phase which has tumeric, coriander, aloe, pectin, kelp and spirulina.

I am also tempted to take ALA for brain mercury but worry if my body still has metals and heard its not good to take on its own as it mobilizes and redistributes it.

So if I was to take ALA should I take N Acetyl Cysteine with it or do I need to take something like DMSA for a while before and then ALA.

What other stuff do you all recommend?

Q1. So am I safe to try ALA for every 3 hours at 25mg on its own or should I wait and take it with something else or wait until DMSA or something else to rid body of metals first.
Q2. Is DMSA available in Australia without prescription?
Q3. And is NAC N acetyl Cysteine any good?
Q4.what would you recommend? is activated charcoal and liquid bentonite any good?

Thanks everyone and god bless

ok BAD NEWS!

here in Australia they dont sell Algin, ALA comes in 200 MG only and NAC is very hard to buy.

So basically I cannot find anything here not to mention they dont even know what DMSA is?? it has to be prescribed i think.

would 200 MG ALA be too much? and intead of algin what about other types of Algae?

You would be able to do ALA. As long as a person is 3 months or more post amalgam removal (or other mercury exposure). You are 8 months, so you should be ok.

You can of course use DMSA beforehand if you wish to try it out alone. But DMSA is not essential. ALA (according to Andy) is. But DMSA is a good starter to reduce blood levels of mercury before adding ALA onboard.

Algin is not a chelating agent. It is not essential to get rid of mercury. It can be helpful however for some people with their symptoms.

NAC maybe helpful or it may cause problems. I'd be careful. If you want to try it, try it in very small doses. In some people it can stir up mercury far too much and make them feel very sick. Other people find it makes them feel better. Great for the liver, but I'd just be cautious and monitor your symptoms.

You may find these links of help if you're trying to locate a place that sells DMSA. Not sure how many of these still do, but it's worth a look.
http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ub...amp;Words=DMSA&Search=true#Post50651

Here is one that locates a place in Australia that apparently sells it:
http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ub...amp;Words=DMSA&Search=true#Post49263

200 mg of ALA is far too much to start. You would need to split the doses up. Even quarter of that dose maybe too much when you are just beginning. Some people take as little as 12.5 mg or even less. Tablets would be alot easier for you to split up than capsules though. But try and find a way of splitting the dose so you're taking much less than that.

You can use ALA by itself or WITH DMSA. But both/either need to be used every three-four hours around the clock as you know. DMSA can be used every 4 hours, ALA is every 3 hours. If you use both together? Then DMSA will need to be taken with ALA (every 3 hours). You can extend it to every 4 overnight if you want more sleep, but only if it does not create too many symptoms. But go back to every 3 during the day.

Be careful of Coriandar! (Cilantro). It is natural and healthy, but it can apparently chelate brain mercury, so there is always a risk when you use chelating agents without a steady/tested/safe protocol. Mercury is so easily moved around anywhere and everywhere! This is why I found Cutler's to be most tolerated. But that does not mean everybody will find it the same! I go mainly by my own reactions and also testimonies from others!

Congrats by the way on getting the poison out of your teeth

Thank you so much bex for your informative response.

I guess I can just use ALA without DMSA. they only come in 200 mg capsules so i might have to open and pour it in a glass of water? is that ok? or should I try 200mg adn see how it affects me. I might bring up the coriander business with my doctor and see what he says

You're welcome James.

I usually open a capsule up and tip out the powder content on paper and divide it up that way. E.g. use 1/4 of it and put the rest back in the capsule if you can (by folding a piece of paper in half, so you can then slide the powder down the fold back into the capsule). Or simpy wrap the powder up in some paper or something and keep it ready for the next doses.

You won't need coriander by the way. ALA does the job of chelating organs/brain mercury. I'd not advise using both, as you may not know which is doing what and it may confuse things. ALA can be more than enough on its own.

I felt very sick after using ALA alone for a few weeks. I can tolerate ALA much better when it is taken with DMSA. Can you buy DMSA from abroad, or is it illegal to do so? DMSA is also called Chemet, Succimer, or Captomer(or perhaps other names as well?) Try asking for it under those names. In the US ALA is available in doses of from 25 mg to 600 mg, although just a few places have the 25 mg. 50 mg is sold in the US by a few different brands. Source Naturals, Country Life, Vitamin Shoppe,
Natrol, and perhaps others as well?

25 mg a dose(200 mg a day) ALA is a good starting dosage. ALA is probably stable enough that you could dissolve a 200 mg from a capsule in 8 ounces of water, then drink one ounce each 3 hours(keep the liquid in the fridge in a sealed container, and shake it well before each use). Don't do this with DMSA as it is very unstable when mixed with water. It is not a good idea to keep dissolved DMDA for more than 6 hours or so, even refrigerated in a sealed container filled to the top. I only keep the dissolved DMSA for around 3 hours(I dissolve the contents of a 100 mg capsule to get two 50 mg doses).

Thanks everyone for your help. I will do the ALA with water and drink 1 ounce every hour.

Does anyone have any experience with EDTA and CH77? my practitioner said CH77 is the best and safest way.

Oral EDTA can cause mineral deficiencies and is not a good idea. EDTA is not good for chelating heavy metals, as it is a strong chelator of necessary minerals as well as heavy metals. Oral EDTA is also only around 5% absorbed. IV EDTA might be useful for artery disease, but isn't efficient for heavy metal detoxification. Use the Cutler chelation protocol with DMSA +ALA.

Here are some commonly asked for links:

DMSA 25mg
http://www.vrp.com/index.aspx?vMBR=685792&vPORT=ECART&vNAV=NO&vITM=8112

DMSA 100mg
http://www.vrp.com/index.aspx?vMBR=685792&vPORT=ECART&vNAV=NO&vITM=8111

Algin
http://onlythebestherbs.com/index.php?do=DisplayProduct_NSP&StockNum=675-1

ALA
http://onlythebestherbs.com/index.php?do=DisplayProduct_NSP&StockNum=1505-6

Thanks Russ for the links! Unfortunately I cannot purchase from overseas though as I don't have a credit card and worry about customs here to Australia and mail getting lost (Had it happen many times).

Can I just take ALA on its own even at 200mg every 3 hours or what would you recommend to take it with to prevent reabsorption? We dont have algin here at all so anything similar?

oh also the ALA are 250 mg...isnt it recommended to take 12.5 or 25 grams only? we have ALA in 200 mg in Australia only.

Hi JamesL,

Well, you just have to be careful. I managed to take 60 mg of ALA just recently on a 3 day round and did "ok".

But most do indeed start as low as you have stated because they could not tolerate anymore. Some can do ok on higher. I know it is annoying when you can't find loser dose ones.

It's up to you how much you want to start with. How much you wish to divide up according to your tolerance level.

You could try starting with 25 mg if it makes it just a bit easier, but just watch your symptoms and see how you go.

thanks bex.
based on andy's protocol its 25 mg of ALA but how much DMSA? and hal huggins suggests only DMSA 3 times a week? very confusing.

And people say you can just take ALA on its own while others say Algin but cant buy algin here.

No problem James.

I would personally skip Hal Huggins advice on chelation if I was you and stick to Andy's. Hal is good on certain things, but I found his advice on DMSA was totally wrong and made me get violent reactions because of the redistribution of mercury. Even at a low dose!

Cutler has it right. Taking it every 3-4 hours around the clock WORKS. It keeps everything much more stable and you can continue to chelate, plus the benefit is, you're taking more of the stuff long term and getting more mercury out.

I'd probably take even doses of ALA and DMSA. But I'm not sure if it matters "too" much.

Yes you can take ALA alone if you wish. DMSA can make things easier, but it's not essential. I don't know much about algin. I never took it. It is not a chelating agent. Some feel it can help with symptoms.

I would try and stick to Cutler's advice if you can. I have found it to be the most sound. No he's not superman, but you only have to read the testimonies and the background.

I just got an email by the way of somebody who has started using his protocol and is now getting well after years of poisoning.

I just did a round of ALA myself. 60 mg. I think something may have happened. I appear to have come up with a mercury rash (something that only happened in the past when attempting to detox mercury). I don't want to get excited just yet and I need to do more rounds to be sure. This maybe of course because I"ve had a recent exposure to mercury via somebody's cigarette smoking. But fingers crossed! Apart from that? I didnt' notice many symptoms. Sometimes there is a worsening or flaring of yeast though and I tend to find I do get worse, especially after the round has ended. Though I assume that maybe some redistribution as the remaining moving mercury is then reabsorbed till the next round.

Andrew Cutler recommends that the ratio of ALA to DMSA used be between 1 to 2 and 2 to 1, so a dosage of 25 mg ALA is recommended to be used with a dosage of from 12.5 to 50 mg of DMSA.

"And people say you can just take ALA on its own while others say Algin but cant buy algin here."

Some people such as myself who tried ALA alone had a very bad reaction to it. I crashed hard and had to stop chelating for several months. With ALA + DMSA, the side effects are much less, and I can handle much higher dosages. If you do try ALA without DMSA, then start with a lower dosage and take longer intervals before raising the dosage.

You could try eating plenty of food with soluable biber such as oatmeal(some might even recommend psyllium or guar gum, however I had bad experiences using these). ALA causes mercury to be released in the bile and through the intestines, where it is excreted in the stool. Normally much of the bile is reabsorbed by the body, however plenty of soluble fiber in the diet will allow less of the bile to be absobed.

Wow you must be super sensitive to have reactions to someone elses cigarettes. I find I get anxious when I smoke so I wonder why..

very interesting.

I will take ALA and DMSA based on your sounds advice.
Thanks

Now I wonder if I can get DMSA here or if they will ship through customs