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Firstly I apologize for double posting this.. Brain fog!!

Hi

As I posted on the "newbie" welcome area:

My symptoms are:
A messed up head, real vague, very foggy, very scared of noises, especially knocks at the door or pin drops etc = weird!
I have no energy really, I walk a little and then have to sit down for quite a while and usually sleep during the day also.. I am in bed at 8ish and up and 4ish and feel good for 2 hours and then the rest of the day its a battle to get through to the next day.

I also have bad gums, wobbly teeth, "twangs" in my head (pain in specific areas on the left side of the back of my head).
My finger nails are also very striated and I feel paranoid and have huge mood swings and I can get very angry.. I have ADHD or so I am told and have had that for years..

I have 4 amalgam fillings in my head, the first was put there in my early teens and the last about 4 months ago when I also had my back tooth removed because it was rotten.. this was next to a amalgam filling tooth.

Life has been horrible for about 3 months, I have 3 ulcers in my stomach which the doctors wiped me out with medication (I am now free from the industry all together) and up till now I thought I had adrenal fatigue (still might also).

Love for some feeddback from you guys.. I have ordered as many things I can from Amazon and tried via Russ's site (But cant order due to where I am).. I still have to find a way to get Algin sent to me here I Thailand.. Amazon does not ship that product here, but I ordered the heavy metal detox from there and that went through.. strange!
I have also purchased the book from Amazon that you guys talk about and I am waiting for all that to arrive..

I would like to get my fillings out now, but again being in Thailand has its problems in finding someone skilled enough..
If anyone can recommend someone in Asia, I would be prepared to fly out and have it done..

Thanks, guys..

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Welcome 123,

All of your symptoms certainly line up with those of mercury toxicity. They are pretty typical.

If we can help or answer other questions, please let us know!

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Imo mercury may have been what started you health problems, but you may have candida overgrowth and perhaps also intestinal parasites that are poisoning your body, and impairing absorbtion of nutrients. Gum problems, striations on fingernails, and lack of the white half moons on your fingernails are said to be signs of a vitamin B12 deficiency. You should try a sublingual B12 1000 mcg (it dissolves under your tongue) 3 x a day. Calcium, Zinc, vitamin c, and iron deficiency might also cause gum problems. Are you a vegetarian? magnesoium deficiency might cause irritability. If the sublingual B12 doesn't help, then imo you should try getting some vitamin B12 injections.


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Originally Posted by JK98
Imo mercury may have been what started you health problems, but you may have candida overgrowth and perhaps also intestinal parasites that are poisoning your body, and impairing absorbtion of nutrients. Gum problems, striations on fingernails, and lack of the white half moons on your fingernails are said to be signs of a vitamin B12 deficiency. You should try a sublingual B12 1000 mcg (it dissolves under your tongue) 3 x a day. Calcium, Zinc, vitamin c, and iron deficiency might also cause gum problems. Are you a vegetarian? magnesoium deficiency might cause irritability. If the sublingual B12 doesn't help, then imo you should try getting some vitamin B12 injections.

Yes the Candida and Parasites are what kills me it seems, the Mercury did and probably helped cause these things, but they are the main problem for me as far as I know. Candida is really bad at times. Mercury needs to be taken out, but seriously getting rid of Candida or Parasites are KEY to good health.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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People underestimate the role of vitamin B12, and how difficult it may be to absorb, especially if someone has candida overgrowth, intestinal parasites, or insufficient stomach acid. In addition to being linked to ridges on the fingernails, anemia, and fatigue, B12 deficiency is linked to psychological problems as well. I recently realized how B12 deficient I am, and blame some of my most recent health problems on this. I am using a few sublingual B12 tablets a day. If they don't help enough, I might need to go for some B12 injections.

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I agree. I sometimes wonder how many symptoms mercury itself causes, as opposed to how many symptoms are caused from candida overgrowth/paraistes etc, due to the immune suppressive action of mercury....though mercury is a neurotoxin, so it's hardly benign and would indeed cause symptoms. But it's hard to tell which is causing what. Which is why it's a great idea to treat all these conditions as though each were to blame, because they are often all involved.

Though mercury requires amalgam removal and chelation to treat, it's wise to treat candida/parasites to reduce symptoms (which may even treat a case of severe depression and suicidal thoughts, which candida can also cause). It has been a life saver for many to do this alone, even without removal of mercury. However, not always and evenso, the problems won't go away until the underlying condition is treated (mercury, or whatever it maybe).

I have found diet to be the main and most effective way of truly treating candida. The rest? Are supplementary and are best not to use unless you are on the diet. Otherwise you'll be feeding the problem by not doing the diet, yet killing it with antifungals at the sametime, which is fruitless. It also causes ongong die off and the toxins from that will continue because the diet is not in place. This also means the liver has to continually cope with this also. It can even cause vomiting.

I have found the diet to be effective alone and I do not take antifungals, though I have in the past. I never found them to be a long term resolution though. Not only does diet reduce yeast if done properly, it builds immunity and many natural foods are antifungal in nature anyway. I don't believe there is any need to spend lots of money on expensive antifungal supplements, unless a person really wants to.

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Originally Posted by JK98
People underestimate the role of vitamin B12, and how difficult it may be to absorb, especially if someone has candida overgrowth, intestinal parasites, or insufficient stomach acid. In addition to being linked to ridges on the fingernails, anemia, and fatigue, B12 deficiency is linked to psychological problems as well. I recently realized how B12 deficient I am, and blame some of my most recent health problems on this. I am using a few sublingual B12 tablets a day. If they don't help enough, I might need to go for some B12 injections.
VERY TRUE.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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Originally Posted by 123
Firstly I apologize for double posting this.. Brain fog!!

Hi

As I posted on the "newbie" welcome area:

My symptoms are:
A messed up head, real vague, very foggy, very scared of noises, especially knocks at the door or pin drops etc = weird!
I have no energy really, I walk a little and then have to sit down for quite a while and usually sleep during the day also.. I am in bed at 8ish and up and 4ish and feel good for 2 hours and then the rest of the day its a battle to get through to the next day.

I also have bad gums, wobbly teeth, "twangs" in my head (pain in specific areas on the left side of the back of my head).
My finger nails are also very striated and I feel paranoid and have huge mood swings and I can get very angry.. I have ADHD or so I am told and have had that for years..

I have 4 amalgam fillings in my head, the first was put there in my early teens and the last about 4 months ago when I also had my back tooth removed because it was rotten.. this was next to a amalgam filling tooth.

Life has been horrible for about 3 months, I have 3 ulcers in my stomach which the doctors wiped me out with medication (I am now free from the industry all together) and up till now I thought I had adrenal fatigue (still might also).

Love for some feeddback from you guys.. I have ordered as many things I can from Amazon and tried via Russ's site (But cant order due to where I am).. I still have to find a way to get Algin sent to me here I Thailand.. Amazon does not ship that product here, but I ordered the heavy metal detox from there and that went through.. strange!
I have also purchased the book from Amazon that you guys talk about and I am waiting for all that to arrive..

I would like to get my fillings out now, but again being in Thailand has its problems in finding someone skilled enough..
If anyone can recommend someone in Asia, I would be prepared to fly out and have it done..

Thanks, guys..


Okay let me ask you a question that Ive asked before on the forum .

When you walk into a kithen or a room where someone has been deep frying food or frying food in oil or in a pan, does your skin get all itchy and feel weird ??

thats not an officail symptom, just one from personal experience and one or two other members.




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Hello,
Im glad I found you guys again, I hope you are well.
Well its been over 1 year since I became seriously ill and I will give you my update on the last 18 months or so.
Firstly, the last year or so has been the most sick I have ever been and I really have found it hard to keep going throughout my quest to find a cure for myself and I have really traveled far and wide to get help.
I went to a detox center at first as I thought I just needed to purge the chemicals from the drugs the Dr's gave me for my ulcers. Whilst there I found this forum and this is where the story begins.
After your great information on this website triggered me into thinking there was a very good chance I had mercury poisoning and Candida, I started reading as many books on the subjects. I would advise anyone and everyone to read Sherry Rogers "Detox or Die" btw.. anyway.... I was battling the candida and trying to detox the heavy metals at the same time with probiotics, vitamin c mega doses, zinc, alpha lipoic acid, selenium, Glysine, magnesium, Algin, Fivelac, Oxygen Elements, Colosan, Cayenne Pepper Tinctures, Vit B12 and heap of other vitamins and minerals..
I dealt with the Finchley Clinic in the UK, Dr Whiting in the USA and anyone who had advice and knowledge on both these issues.
I literally had about 100 bottles of vitamins and minerals on my table at one time...
I also added a vegan diet to my daily battle and ate raw about 80% of the time also. I bought a running machine and small sauna and also added both these to my daily treatment as well as 30 minute walk in the sun daily for the vitamin d benefit.
I stopped work as I really had no choice to begin with and just went full time in taking care of myself..
Over a few months I was feeling slightly better but was still irritable, tired and had other mental issues.. I guess the thing that sticks in my mind the most is small noises sounding incredibly loud and plastic bags being handled would drive me crazy.. Even walking along the beach, the water lapping at the shore would actually scare me through the volume I would hear it at... I really thought I was going crazy daily.
After a couple months of this daily regime, I wasn’t getting much better in mind and was still sleepy and really had to find the next step.. I again went back to the internet and looked at more detox centers and what they offered and stumbled across a detox / yoga retreat in The Philippines and thought it might do me a world of good as they were also connected to a Holistic Medical Dr (Dr Romy Peredes - http://www.biointegrativecenter.com/about.html). I packed up and flew to the Island of Cebu and went along to the Yoga retreat and tried to settle in. The second day I was sent along to the Dr and that’s the day the trip started to make sense to me and I felt like I was on the right track.... I went back to the Yoga retreat but found it more of an "experience" rather than a detox center and checked out. I decided to move into the city, closer to the Dr's practice and start on his recommendations. Which were - IV EDTA Chelation, IV Vitamin C, and IV Hydrogen Peroxide ..
After first day I went for IV EDTA I woke up the next morning to find my hair had now the same feel and look as steel wool! It was incredible, I had metal coming out of my head via my hair. I could not believe this was happening and after the long road I had been on, I was actually overwhelmed with emotion.. I truly was poisoned and this was the proof I needed for myself.
Over the next few days my hair slowly got back to its usual look and feel and I was feeling a lot lighter in state of mind and I now thought I was well on my way to full health again. I spent 2 weeks with the Dr and had daily treatments of the 3 protocols he used on me and we became friends and still keep in touch today.. I left The Philippines and returned home and went back to my healthy lifestyle post Philippines and thought I was on the road to full recovery.
I guess I felt 100% better than before I left and the hearing problems had just about disappeared, but I still was far from normal.. I carried on with my life and just battled on waiting for the day Id wake up and feel normal.. I was eating the right food, exercising and having daily saunas, so I thought it was just a matter of time..
After 3 months I had not improved much, so again I went on another mission to find a Dr to carry out the IV Chelation but would have had to travel to far, so that lead me to finding Detoxamin (EDTA suppositories) and I spent the next 6 months “consuming” (4 tubs) 120 suppositories, which they say equates to 40 IV Chelation therapies.. Im definitely a lot better than I was and after this amount of chelation I should have one of the cleanest bodies known to science..
So here I am, this is where I am now.. I hardly sleep during the day anymore and can do hard workouts with weights, my body feels strong, I lost a heap of weight, I feel in love with vegetables and health in general, and I even “reversed grey hair” (I was slightly greying prior to chelation and now I have halved that at least)… So I am cured right?... No, Im not unfortunately.. The last 2 weeks have been hard and I get headaches again, I find it hard to concentrate and feel depressed a lot.. I have the same symptoms I had before all this, just not as strong… Still a very unhappy existence..
So, as you would realize I didn’t mention I had my mercury removed did I? Well no as I couldn’t find a dentist that had the right skills to carry the removal safely and even today I still don’t know of one close to where I live.. (I live in a remote area of Thailand)…
So this is my plan> Im going to go to a dentist locally and have the amalgams’ removed and replaced with the enamel fillings.. I guess this will be far from the right way of removal, But I feel I have little choice and I am sick of feeling like this.
I have stocked up on 2 new tubs of Detoxamin and I have about 4 bottles of Algin and Heavy Metal detox stored away… So I am ready to Chelate after the “procedure”..
I need you to help me on some advice please.. I have read or heard that eating butter prior to the removal can help stop the mercury from entering organs and the butter attaches itself to it and carries it out into the urine.. Is this true? Have you ever heard of this? Would you recommend this? Do you have any other advice that can help me through this “final stage’..
Please give me any information in relation to safe practices and quick chelation from my upcoming date with the Dentist.. Bear in mind Im in Thailand and although I speak great Thai, that does not cover medical procedure jargon.. As simple as you can please.. Thanks for reading and I stand by for your guidance before I take the plunge.

Kind Regards
Brett

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Hi Brett,

This seems typical of mercury poisoning. The changeable symptoms, the improvements and then the "regressions". It does show that chelation has helped you with symptoms as it was picking up mercury. So that in itself shows what the problem is. But chelation is not actually often recommended to use whilst one still has amalgams.

I'm happy to hear that you're on your way to having them safely removed. That way you will be able to really start chelating the mercury out of your tissues and organs.

I have found diet (removing sugar/gluten/yeast), supplements (antioxidants mainly) and moderate exercise to be a help in supporting my body and aiding the process of natural detoxification. However, I believe that proper chelation is necessary to get the deeper stored mercury and I would recommend the Andrew Hall Cutler protocol to you as one I believe works well and works safely.

I'd recommend you start by reading through this link here:

Informative posts by Andy Cutler

Here are some testimonies by those who have and are using his protocol. Just an example:

Cutler protocol testimonies

His book "Amalgam Illness, Diagnosis and Treatment" was a godsend to me. I would recommend this book if you can afford it. But otherwise, the link above does at least give it in a nutshell and you can gain alot of help and answers from people on here who are familiar with it.

I am not familiar with butter doing what you said, but I have heard it is a very healthy "food" (fat) and one in which Hal Huggins recommends for mercury toxicity. Perhaps it is protective too. Though he believes that it can help with mercury and is a natural gentle chelator in itself. It contains vitamin A and D naturally and I believe "selenium" (which is usually depleted in those with mercury). But he also recommends that plus enough proteins in meat and eggs and general animal fat contained already on meat. That has been on help to me to get more of this in my own diet.

Protection during amalgam removal is vital. An alternative breathing source, eye goggles, rubber dam, etc (the more protection the better) are what should be in place! Do NOT take strong antioxidants (like vitamin C) on the day of and from the night before the amalgam removal. As it can erase much of the effects of the anaesthetic apparently. You can of course start taking them again following the removal. Just be aware that they can make anaesthetic less effective! So you may want to quit taking any 24-48 before the dental procedure. I would not get too many removed in one session either (personally). Mercury vapor is released during removal and the exposure is unavoidable. Though it can be "lessened" it is probably not a good idea to get too many done at once. I'd say 2 at the most and then leave yourself enough time inbetween visits to recuperate. That's just a suggestion.

Symptoms of mercury will return until enough deeply stored organ mercury has been chelated out properly. Because it continues to leak out as long it's there. So even if a person gets to a point of "feeling" better, they may still have significant mercury present and often find the symptoms return again. This also happens during the process of detoxification. Ups and downs are typical.

I can't comment much on EDTA as far as mercury goes, as I am not familiar enough with it. But it appears it has been helpful for you! I am only familiar with the mercury chelators DMSA, and ALA. The protocol is very important in how these products are used and when they are taken. That makes a HUGE difference! If they're taken randomly? The movement of mercury can be wild and make symptoms at times, (for me at least) intolerable. It not necessary to put up with symptoms that are so intense that they make you feel like you're going insane. This is why Cutler's was the best protocol for me to use.



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Brett,

Did you not ever come across this dental hospital?

http://www.bangkokdentalcenter.com/dental.htm

The web page says:

"BIDC dental clinic is an amalgam-free dental clinic. Patients may opt for for the IAOMT protocol of amalgam fillings removal with the replacment of composite resin or white fillings. At BIDC dental clinic, we believe in the safe removal of amalgam filings.
Please do kindly ask our staff if you do wish to take up this personalized option at our clinic for you and your family."

I hate to think of you having your fillings removed without protection!


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It's very important that amalgams are removed properly and safely.

About 1/2 (50%) of all of the people I've spoken to who had amalgams removed by a conventional (non-biological) dentist was then diagnosed with a chronic degenerative disease shortly after.

The amount of mercury that people can be exposed to when amalgams are removed without protection is enormous.


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EDTA is not good because it mostly gets rid of the necessary minerals your body needs. It will also get rid of some mercury and lead, but much more of necessary minerals.

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Originally Posted by JK98
EDTA is not good because it mostly gets rid of the necessary minerals your body needs. It will also get rid of some mercury and lead, but much more of necessary minerals.
See this is KEY TO ME HERE! Getting rid of minerals is just as damaging to me and dangerous as having Mecury in you as well! I am against some things from the heart, period.



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