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I took a natural selium base from broccoli and felt crazy one morning like I did before my fillings were out, my mind was racing fast and breathing was low from candida type symptoms and I had to stop it! I took the amino acid type selono or whatever it's called and did not have this, but took the natural form which is much stronger and felt like I could not cope after a few days! I had to take liquid Oxygen which Ed Mcabee recommends and Pau D Arco just to calm down a little and get back to sleep. That Selenium messed me up! Some say Chlorella does this to them but I always tolerated it well but quit for some reason to use Spirulina, but it never ever made me feel this bad. What to do?

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In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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Yes, I have experienced the same with selenium. As if I wasn't bad enough and that nearly tipped me over the edge. I also had candida at the time, so too many toxins inside the body/brain and selenium just seemed to exacerbate it. I handle it now because I'm on a strict diet regime to deal with yeast issues, so it seems selenium is fine now.

Also if you are very mercury toxic and/or have bad candida, you might find the selenium appears to cause a redistribution of toxins/metals and the symptoms can worsen and sometimes seem frightening. I would be cautious if this is the case for you and either take a lesser dose, or forget about taking it.

It is not worth risking frightening symptoms if that's what it is doing and yes it can definitely do some odd things at times if you're very toxic. Go easy on that one. many mercury toxic people can find selenium a problem.

It competes with and apparently displaces mercury too and if your system is overloaded with metals and other toxins, it may not be able to handle this and it could simply make you feel quite crazy. Consider looking into yeast issues, if you haven't already. Big problem with those suffering mercury or other toxicity/immune problems.

Candida can cause many symptoms associated with mercury. Though mercury maybe the cause, sometimes candida symptoms can take over. Make you miserable, suicidal, extremely ill. I always think it's wise to treat both if you're uncertain which is causing more symptoms. If it's mainly mercury and not much yeast....you'll know soon enough after doing the candida diet for a few weeks (no cheats)...if there is little to no improvement, it may not be a big issue with you.

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What do you recommend I start on? I take algin now and tolerate it well and always tolerated Chlorella well! Spirulina as well. This just pushed me over the edge and made me NUTS!!!!! I am gonna start slow, I had my mercury removed 4 years ago and x rays showed no signs of other teeth with it from my holistic doctor, but still symptoms now? I don't get it? How can I be that toxic still?


BTW Threelac for a while made me normal again pretty much and happy etc., could I have more candida along with some mercury poisoning? I felt strong and independent again for a while, but since then have fell off!! Anti Fungals make me human again it seems, what can I do to treat both? Everytime I kill mercury I get alot worse it seems candida wise and so on. BTW I took a liquid Oxygen from Dr Wong and could sweat again and felt really good, does that mean I have more yeast than Mercury in me? I felt great and clear for a while, I literally loved it.

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Probably around 50 mcg to start, but check reactions even on that dose. Build up very slowly. Start lower if you notice problems. You may get a bit from food, but usually not enough selenium unfortunately.

You can easily still be toxic after 4 years following amalgam removal. Consider how deeply stored mercury is and how difficult it is to remove from the body in those that have a tendency to retain it, rather than eliminate it properly (which is often the reason why we got sick from it in the first place). It also remains in the brain up to a lifetime!

I had amalgams out in mid 1997 and was still suffering by 2001-2002 Why? because I had simply not engaged on any frequent serious chelation protocol and most of the mercury stayed put. I started dumping it naturally at around early 1999. Got much worse as the stored mercury started leaking back out and making me very sick. I felt re-poisoned. From there, it was random, infrequent attempts at detox/chelation. Until I finally embarked on Andrew Cutler's protocol, which seemed to speed things up and make it more effective. Improvements were very slow and painful to reach. It can take a LONG time. Especially if you're doing it mainly naturally and your immunity aint too good.

Yeah, you would likely have candida and if you find you improve with treatment, then that's a strong indicator you should persue this more seriously and get yourself on a strict candida diet. Products for candida are usually expensive and are not the main answer in the long run. Diet is the way to go! There is no point in buying products and expecting them to do the job, whilst you continue eating stuff to feed yeast. As soon as you stop your products, you will be right back where you started, because you never stopped feeding the problem. This is not directed at "you" personally, but just what i have experienced.

I would not even use a product for candida. I would concentrate on diet alone. You can always add things later as you progress on the diet and die off symptoms improve. That is up to you how far you wish to go with it.

You must totally eliminate ALL sugar from your diet (sugar, honey, fruit). You should eliminate all wheat/gluten products (wheat is treated with mercury fungicide and gluten can screw the gut up big time and cause toxicity). Both are very very bad in candida/mercury. Sugar lowers immunity, feeds yeast and causes all manner of problems. Steer clear of it.

Fruit is healthy, but yeast can still feed off the natural sugars, so it's not worth consuming until you have gotten control of yeast and cheating with fruit does not cause big problems.

THe only fruit allowed is tomatoes and lemons. The rest is risky. I cannot eat any other fruit but them.

Eliminate milk from your diet, it contains lactose (natural sugar). You can eat butter and plain sugar free acidophilus yoghurt, but not milk.

You may need to eliminate all grains from your diet, as these are high in carbohydrates, which still have potential to feed yeast. That is up to you and how serious you have the problem. This also includes high carbohydrate vegetables like corn, carrots, potatoes, beans, peas etc. Be careful of them also. Potential to feed candida.

Yes it sounds extreme, but it's important at least until you have reduced substantial yeast and then if you improve enough you "may" (or may not) be able to loosen up a bit more and include high carb foods again (but probably not sugar wheat/gluten, unless you have cured your underying condition).

You can freely consume free range eggs, meat, chicken, low carbohydrate vegetables, sugar free acidophilus yoghurt, raw almonds/brazil nuts, sunflower/pumpkin seeds, herbal teas.

Cut out coffee, it's another bad one and can feed yeast also. Apparently contains cadmium too. Black tea maybe "ok".

Have plenty of essential fats like butter, extra virgin olive oil, fish oil/cod liver oil (mercury free brand), flaxseed oil etc (which can be mixed in yoghurt for taste and better effectiveness).

This is pretty much what I follow daily and results can often be seen in only a few weeks (if it's stuck to). But proper results may need a few months, as deeply stored toxins may take sometime to be dealt with after the body has improved from yeast....so don't be suprised if later on your body then decides to deal with deeper issues and you notice further healing symptoms. It can happen.

I would deal with the diet first, because it's the foudnation of everything else. Once you get this part right, you may find yourself gaining more improvements than you thought, without adding anything else to the candida regime. That will be up to you. As far as chelation goes? When you have a gut and liver screwed up by candida, it may not be wise. It can instead cause a circulation of the toxins which your body may not be able to eliminate due to toxins from candida.

A dentist here (biologic) will not treat his mercury toxic patients with amalgam removal etc, until they have first dealt with candida and the first part of that is "diet". If they refuse, he won't go any further with their mercury treatment plan. He knows how important/vital it is to get the yeast under control and gut and liver improving, so THEN they can start to detox the mercury better and more effectively. You may also find your symptoms may improve markedly just by treating candida alone!

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Taking coconut oil will help you stay regular. It is also antiparasitic and antifungal. Make sure the selenium supplement you take is yeast free. Many here are very sensitive to yeast. Did you do a parasite cleanse recently? if not, then perhaps you should consider doing one. I would not even think about taking chlorella or spirulina, as imo would probably have a great sensitivity to them. A low carbohydrate diet is essential. Cut out sugar, alcohol, and grains. cut out fruit and high carb vegetables like potatoes, sweet potatoes, and peas. eat raw garlic. some feel better when taking msm. You cold add detoxifying herbs like licorice root, dandelion, ginger, etc.

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How about eating Brazil nuts instead of taking selenium supplements? Brazil nuts have huge amounts of selenium.

http://www.nutnutrition.com/nutrition/brazilnuts.htm

Some talk about the radium content of Brazil nuts. I guess they are good in moderation, and one should not overdo it. Some talk about 550 mcg of selenium being in just one ounce of Brazil nuts.


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Mercury and selenium poisoning

http://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/products/factsheets/15mersel.pdf

The more I think about it, the more I want to be careful about how much selenium I take in. I was thinking about getting some Brazil nuts, however I am now leery of doing that, considering the radium they may have, and this article of how selenium might interact with mercury. There is probably enough selenium in the foods I eat anyway. Taking a selenium supplement, even a small one may be overdoing it.

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In my country, our soil is very low is essential elements like selenium and iodine etc. So the food produced from the soil is also consequently low in these and we have one of the highest cancer rates, suicide rates in the world for such a small country. Whether that's related or not I don't know.

But I have to get more of these things. Brazil nuts maybe enough, depends where you get them from!

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Iodine, have you tried Kelp? Kelp Granules may work for this some. I haven't tried Brazil Nuts yet, I tried yeast free Selenium and it did not bother me, but I read that Selenomethionine or whatever it is is unsafe in certain dosages and not as good as the natural ones from plants. Plant Based selenium is the best and strongest I read. Brazil nuts are the highest without supplements, maybe I should try? I read if you eat too much though it can be toxic and don't eat everyday.


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brazil nuts will only hurt you if your allergic to them. It is probably better to eat a few brazil nuts daily than to take selenium. i take both, 100gms selenium and a handful of brazil nuts twice a day in blended in smoothies for protein.Just after removal i was unable to take any selenium in any form, i was too sensitive, so just be aware if you are new to this and vulnerable, go slow with selenium.

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YES!! This was the very first supplement that was given to me (when I still had my amalgams in) and I almost lost my mind!


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I am new to it pretty much ^^^^ I took Chlorella for years but that never effected me nor took much of it out of my body IMO. I tried Cilantro for a week or two, felt a little weird so cut it out (Chlorella along with it). I took a zeolite bottle too but that never did too much, it was a mild chelator and did not take much out IMO. I have never really seriously tried to detox, which is why I am here now to weight my options and see what you guys have done and set a plan! Selenomethionine or whatever it is from Solgar did not bother me at all, maybe I should try it? Is it safe though?


BTW to the post above lol, I did lose my MIND, I am crazy now wink Seriously though I hated that experience, never want to feel like taht again.


In Sanskrit, tulsi means literally "the incomparable one" and has been revered since ancient times. Tulsi, the holy basil, is said to have grown at the site of Christ’s crucifixion and is associated with St. Basil’s feast.
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Hi Sean, Andy recommends selenium in the form of selenomethione (you reminded me) because apparently it is better tolerated by most people than other forms....

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Yeah and it was tolerated by me as well, very well!! I read it on another forum as well, but stupid me to stop taking that and go to another natural form which messed me up bigtime for a day or two! I loved that kind, no ill effects at all.


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