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#39784 08/13/08 10:11 PM
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Okay so I'm a little ambivalent but this is what happened - I started parasite cleanse as it came highly recommended to do before chelation and was getting die off symptoms. I thought it may have been too early and I should address the mercury first and everything else would come along later. I was also taking garlic supplements and oil of oregano and I thought it may be overkill (no pun intended). So I stopped it yesterday afternoon. Today I decided I was going to try a round of chelation since I felt good doing that before so I took 3 doses - nothing happened no better no worse. I took my normal vitamin doses and got the runs - some of which I couldn't even begin to tell you what came out - parasites and tons of them. Yesterday I don't remember having a BM - I would remember anything like that. So now I'm thinking that yes - I have a parasite issue and it needs to be addressed because I don't want that stuff staying in me any more. So what do you think? Stop chelation since it is early - take tons of Algin and get back on the cleanse - remember I am only taking half the recommended dose since it is my first time - I couldn't imagine what full dose would do. Finish the cleanse and maybe do another cleanse like colon or something and try to get some gunk out while my body is detoxing on its own anyway. I CANNOT believe what I saw - I was very skeptical about this whole thing. I promise I will stick this one out - no matter how bad I feel - no pain no gain. I think I just needed to see what I was feeling pain for - now I know and I believe!


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Yeah it's really amazing at the things you see coming out of your own body...sometimes pretty gross stuff, YUK!!! Never knew all that nasty gunk was there. Just go slow and remove stuff slowly or you will make yourself sick. I have some friends that want to cleanse but are scared of getting sick...I keep telling them the key is don't make yourself sick, go slow. I never take full dose of anything until I see how my body is going to react to it. The body can only work so fast so i go slow on everything...maybe cause I am a big chicken but 13 years worth of pain is enough. Some pain is ok but not bucketloads...I am so done with that. Move slowly...I have seen more improvment that way than just jumping right in. BTW my friends are still just in the talking stage LOL. My boss talks alot about problems she is experiencing but is all talk too lazy to do anything about it...runs to the doc with every little problem and then tells me of the side effects from the meds they gave her. Wastes my time so I try to avoid any conversations with her concerning health. I have talked to her for over a year and she is always the first one in line at the dr's office...no time left for that and really tired of her dr stories. She basically thinks I am a nut but what would the world be like without a few nuts...right? LOL
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The body has its own detoxification methods. The problem is that when someone becomes very sick not just from mercury but also from parasites and candida, these detoxification channels can end up functioning very poorly and that is when people feel very sick. The idea is to help relieve the toxifying burdens on the the body, and let the body heal. Even chelation relies on the body's own healing and detoxifying channels. Chelation just yanks the mercury out the organs and lets it get into the blood. If the body's detoxification channels are working properly, then small amounts of extra mercury in the bloodstream from chelation will be excreted properly. if not, then the extra mercury in the blood from chelation will make you feel very bad. That is why I focus on detoxification and on getting rid of parasites and decreasing the candida before chelation. When you think about how chelation works, this makes plenty of sense. I have leaned plenty from my mistakes.

Many here still don't like msm, however I think it is a great supplement for detoxification. I wouldn't overdo it though, and suggest just 1-3 1 gram doses of msm a day. I also like the detoxifying and antifungal, antiparasitic, and antimicrobial power of raw garlic. Some other good detoxifying herbs are dandelion, alfalfa, licorice root, and ginger.

I also added some important essential oils to my regimen. Clove oil(which I use very carefully since it is toxic except in very small doses). I take 3 drops 3 times a day. It is very antiparasitic and boosts the immune system. I also take ginger
oil, peppermint oil, and cinnamon(cassia) oil. These are also quite antiparasitic and boost the immune system. I take 3 drops 3 times a day of these. I also take oregano oil(I use the 1/3 diluted so I take 3 drops 3 x a day, equivalent to 1 drop of the pure 3x a day). I have been taking these oils stirred well with 2-3 ounces of water. I think a better way to take them though is probably mixing them into olive oil or flaxseed oil. I may switch to that. when I mix them with water, after I drink it, I put a small amount of water in the cup and mix it well and drink it to get the residue from the bottom of the cup.

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I think the important thing to remember too, is that everybody's body is different. Some people are more poisoned than others, some eat better than others, some deal with stress better, and we all may have different deificiencies or damage done to organs. So, it's important to know that what works for one person may not work for another or may even harm another. It seems like you may be deficient in sulfur and that is why you can tolerate the garlic and MSM so well. You are also very knowledgable about oil and herbs so that makes you more willing to use them. Others may be more relucant. I'm on boat with getting the parasites and candida minimized before chelating. I'm back on the cleanse.


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I think the important thing to remember too, is that everybody's body is different. Some people are more poisoned than others, some eat better than others, some deal with stress better, and we all may have different deificiencies or damage done to organs. So, it's important to know that what works for one person may not work for another or may even harm another.

Your right about that...one way I can tell is by muscle testing. I muscle test everything before I take it and usually is very accurate for me. I perodically retest supplements too...seems to work for me.


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Wow, parasites are obviously a big issue in your symptoms...well most likely a great deal of it. But that could also be from a mercury poisoned body too, which allows yeast and other things to flourish.

I'm impressed you got such a reaction, which is an indicator you might want to continue. I have not had any such reactions with parasite cleanses, neither recently, nor in the past. and I stuck it out for weeks too and did more than one...even on a good diet. Still don't get a response. so I consider parasites may not be such a big issue with my problems, but maybe with some other people and evidentally they are.

Sunshine got tremendous reactions from parasite cleansing and he took breaks from chelating also. You might want to take a leaf out of his book and do much the same if you want to deal with one main issue at a time, instead of overloading yourself. Chelation can always be resumed and it is important too, but I'd not do it all at once. Just my opinion though (which is not qualified anyway).



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