Please dont waste your time and energy to answer. Just wanted to say this somwhere.

wow that is very discouraging........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Discouraging but truthful how some of us feel. My cousins partner just hung himself cos the bastard doctors wouldnt take him seriously.

I feel the same way sometimes and if only the docs and dentists would ever listen there would be a whole lot less pain and suffering in this world!!! Stupid jerks they all need to be shot, quartered, maimed, burned, oh wait lets just put some mercury in their mouths and let them suffer a slow agonizing death. Can't tell I feel like crap today huh? LOL Hang in there everybody they will all get theres in the end!!!

"Hang in there everybody they will all get theres in the end!!!"


Somehow I get the feeling they won't... it's only the decent people that need to be tormented (oh, hi God)

Well I know one who will cos I have a pending meeting with my cousins consultant and believe me I'll hold nothing back. Hes well known for discharching suicidal victims and if its my last breath, he ll know exactly what I think. My cousins partner was a good kind soul who was in a car crash which devastated his way of life. Im screaming in my head all the time why the hell didnt someone help him. He was on medication and doing ok but has the same pathetic GP as me who took him off it all. Yes they want shooting.
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i feel discouraged on a daily basis, one minute im okay next not okay infact far from it, i cant see an end to this suffering. its almost like im being teased with a carrot stick.
Its great that people are feeling a whole lot better but in some people its not really happening no matter what they do, i just keep going and going and maybe my prayers will be heard one day.
i suppose theres no way you can win this battle too soon, it will take a hell of a long time to get 40 yrs of mercury and toxins out.
At least we are on the right track of knowing whats wrong with us, some people never knew or will never know what caused their illness and some people choose to believe so called doctors.
Blame the pharmecutical companies for all this, they are evil in the purest form.

hah, know what u mean, was thinking the exact thing some time ago.

Sorry to hear you feel so bad.
I Feel so low lately too.So fedd up trying & trying and SO fed up with all the conflicticting advice & practitioners who don't have a clue.
Feel like I'm getting sicker and am too tired of trying.
So tired of all the misunderstanding,
feel so alone.

Dawn, Tracy, Jinx, all a y'all, it's a cryin shame. Everbody with a primary metal poisonin is feelin WAY worse nowadays They are chemtrialin the heck out of us., and Poland has gone to hell in a handbasket since joinin the EU ( and boy does it stink) The already compromised are feelin it the most.
Gonna post a good joke soon as I find one .
Oh yeah, when ( and if) I say hang in, which ain't often, what I mean is, there's way worse things than dyin, keep your beautiful soul intact folks, the body is like a tight shoe, kinda nice to take off, prollem is/ deal is , ya gotta keep on the good foot and keep on tryin , long as y'all are here. Yepper, poppin the clogs could come as a mighty great relief, but ya gotta make the most a the fight. We ain't here to be worriers, we gotta be warriors.
It's a heart /mind thing , keep on keepin on.

But what the hell do you so when you havnt got the strength to fight any more. no one ljistens or cares except the people going through the same thing. Ive run out of resourses.

We can't lose faith and hope. If we do that we have let them won the battle, and I personally will not do that. I will keep trying to get better and live to tell others about it.

Even in the worst of times (like I am going through right now) when I keep asking myself what is the point to go on like this, I cannot let these be my last thoughts. Keep the faith and keep trying.

Hey guys we're not alone in this fight. Keep on fighting the good fight and we will eventually win. This is the cycle of life. The elite are the cancer of this society and they will pay for bringing us down eventually.

I understand, and also feel this way most days. I just get so heartbroken over all this. I spend most of my days and nights, trying to spread the word on the internet, of this terrible poisoning that is being done to us. I am pumped up that I've helped so many people already, that had never heard of it, understand. I am pumped that I have helped many with health problems just like mine, now find a direction to go in....but am discouraged that there are so many more, lurking around, dying...trying to find an answer. I am pissed, that there are probably thousands upon thousands of the mercury toxic locked up in insane asylums, in our prison system, in hospital beds, and bedridden in their homes, wondering what in the HELL is wrong with them. I am pissed that our government won't do something about this, and it's all about freaking money and population control, so they turn a blind eye.

I am upset that I can't spend my life the way I want. It has been STOLEN from me. I can't travel, play with my kids, eat what I want..and I spend my life choking down lots of supplements. I have anxiety and have become terrified of almost everything you can imagine. My worst nightmare has come true, I've become a hermit in my own home.

I am broken. For that someone will pay. It may not be tomorrow, and it may not be next month...but I will do anything within my power, to make someone pay for this. I begin by spreading the word, and making all the unsuspecting ones AWARE!

I was asking my 12 yo son the other day if a life of agony is better than the non-existence of death. He said no. I wonder if there is any relief in death. Every now and then I get a good day. I can only assume death, if my consciousness survives, will be eternal relief but then again who can tell?

Why asking your 12yo?

As adults we become too attached to this existence and physical body. The thought of living at all costs is paramount. A couple of years ago here in the US when the guy wanted to remove his brain dead wife from life support and thousands rallied to keep this from happening strikes me as odd especially from people who profess to believe in God and an afterlife. Why not let her go on to something better? Children haven't learned to fear death so much as us adults.

I asked him on a day I felt particularly bad. Sometimes I wonder if my life is a test to see if I have the courage to end my own suffering.

Lately I've found a few supplements that seem to be helping my adrenal fatigue and having some really good days again. It gives me hope that one day I will be back.

Then what a perspective I will have. On the days I feel good nothing going on in the world can disturb me. A peaceful happiness shines through. Most of the time I just sit and do nothing other than enjoy the way my body feels.

again, f.uck this life.

hey jinx,

f.uck it yourself.

plenty of us have plenty to live for.

sorry that's probably not the reply you'd like to see but this thread is pretty obnoxious from the get go too.

(obviously) I was speaking for myself and my life only. thanx anyway.

great then keep it to yourself.

no one seem interested in joining your unable to do anything for yourself and screw everyone else self pity party.

isn't that how this all started anyway? it's kind of hard to imagine your mother handed you the thermometor and told you eat it.

"screw everyone else"

where have I ever come off as someone with that kind of attitude?


" it's kind of hard to imagine your mother handed you the thermometor and told you eat it."

what are u talking about?

just about every post you make is full of that attitude jinx, hate to say it. And I'm talking about your story about eating the mercury from a thermometor when you were a kid. Which is the type of thing kids do against their parents' advice, not with it, with a 'screw stupid mommy' attitude even.

correct me if I'm wrong, but this is a self-help forum not a spread the pain and give it up attitude around to anyone within reach forum.

serious, mostly I pity your parents. it must be quite a burden to deal with your attitude face to face on a daily basis. They deserve a medal of honor. I'm sure it has taken quite a toll on them.

it's really not necessary to try to ruin everyone's day if you are somehow able. you're really just screwing yourself in the process. we don't have to live with you but you have to live yourself.

I hope you get over it really I do, it's quite burdensome even from a distance. most of do share your pain jinx, even if we refuse to delight ourselves in it as you appear to do.

maybe if you need to curse at people or life or God or whatever you should get yourself a spiral bound notebook and make it a private memoir. Healing requires a positive attitude and your negativity isn't helpful here.

I swallowed the thermometer when I was FIVE or less. It happened by accident cause I used to see how on american tv you guys had mouth thermometers and i bit on one and swallowed the mercury. In Poland we had armpit thermemters so nobody said dont put it on your mouth, it's toxic.

But u didnt know that did you?

And it's not like 5yolds never go againts what parents say..... and what does a 5yo attitude GOT TO DO with an adults attitude?

But u didn't think of that did u?

Actually i was quite succesfull for my young age , college and had a good job, until candida hit me 4 years ago with hge brain fog, IN SPITE OF WHCIH I kept working aand attempted collegge studyingfor 2 years - hardly self pitty.

But i didnt know that did you?

and NOT WANTING to live like this decided to do something about it and found out about mercury and went ahead - risked it knowing the danger- and had an unsafe removal cause I though i'd handle it - WELL I DIDNT and from that on my health collapsed .....

but again it collapsed cause of my sefl-pitty right?

And u didnt think of that did you?

And from that removal my mental gealtrh has been deterirating, which of course DOESNT AFFECT YOUR ATTITDE or DOESNT CRIPLE YOUR MIND DOESNT IT? DEMENTIA DOESNT CRIPLE YOU IN YOUT ABILITY O HANDLE SITUATION DOESNT IT?

cause i had to quit my job after that and had no income and had to rely on my parents money, which they dont have much. In poland people dont have as much money as in us you know?

But did u think of that?

And also in poland almost no naturpaths or holistic docs, one (out of few) I was treated by ditched me. the rest of docs are allopathic so no point turning into them. Also not many choices in terms of edta/dmps chelation etc tec and even not as amny supplements on the market as in us.

Did u consider that?

and the money thing - I try chelate with ala (which doesnt do much so far) with not even ahev ALL the basic supplements andy reccomends, i'm always short of something, i can't even affrd to buy magnesium let alone other stuff that could help clay etc etc..

But u didnt know that either right?

and i could keep asking my parents to give me the money for all those supplements, but i dont cause i know they dont have them esp since they recently spent 200zl (like a 100 bucks) on lyme tetsing for me - which came up negative - and i dont want to burdne them anymore....

but that I guess my attitude right?

i sacrificed 5 healthy teeth to get rest of amalgams out, yet body cant manage much chelation, though i keep trying.

but u were aware of that right?

I stick to a very strict candia diet and I dont indulge myself at all in any sugars - which would be easy in case of self-pitty - as i know the consequences ... almost every day i do enemas - deep cleansing - to get this stuff out of and not sit it and rot it.

But i guess u thought of that?


BOTTOM LINE - WHAT DO YOU KNOW So Sick to talk about me my attitde, what gives u the right to say these things when youre not even going through it? When u not even understand it? what gives u the right eh? Cause u were 'so sick' yourself (which i dont doubt) and came out of it this means u think you 'understand' everyone else here and can pass judgement?

There was a debate wirth u and tracy some time ago and tracy called u judgemental and I didnt want to get into that cause i'm not judegemental myself. But fact as a matetr is that u cant accept that there are two KINDS of people here: THOSE who manage to somehow slowly get better and THOSE who unfortenetly - for some reason - dont respond to treatment (which doesnt mean they dont dont take the effort). You I guess are the FORMER, and i'm glad for you, - but u also had recources to get all those dmps injections and edta and your bodu responded to it - and you should appreciate it. But there are those who the latter and how can they appreciate anything? the latter guys just want somebody to understand them cause sometimes its the only relief. and as for me WANTING (thanx a lot) to ruin other's days and joining me in self-pitty this was my first post:

"F**K THIS LIFE.

Please dont waste your time and energy to answer. Just wanted to say this somwhere. "

as it was today. when I say these things i just know there are people here who know all this and just understand i dont want them to answer, i just wanna say what's botherhing my sould some place where it would be undertood thats all. cause i come off from the assumption that THEY WILL UNDERSTAND what I mean. I guess not all of them.

how could anyone not know any of those things jinx when you have told us repeatedly about it all.


well hey jinx, "F**K YOUR ATTITUDE..

Please dont waste your time and energy to answer. Just wanted to say that somewhere. finally.

It's really gross.

go swear and curse somewhere else. it's disgusting, I for one have enough already.

and yet u dont take them under consideration nor address them when forming an opinion?



well when I say f* my life, it's obvious i'm not intentionally offending anyone , if at all it's because of using the f* word, and I'm sorry if anyone feels offended by the f word, but I'm directing it only at myself only, but when u say "f* my attitude" then youre directing it at me, and u think it's the same as me directing the f* word at myself? is it just to you to respond with an intentional f* remark dircted at somebody to an unitnentional f remark direted at oneself?

Jinx,

Sorry to hear about what you've been through. It's not fair, I know.

Now I'm suffering (AGAIN) as well. This area I recently moved to is getting sprayed so heavily by chemtrails that I now have horrible symptoms that are some kind of cross between mercury toxicity and morgellons (but without the strange fibers). The circles around my eyes are so dark that I look like a raccoon, but none of this is my fault.

I have looked back carefully on my life and realized that I only had 4 good years. Yes, only 4. All the rest of my life I have been either sick or socially paralyzed with fear. And the kicker is that all of this suffering has been caused by evil people in powerful places who gloat in their power while injecting those who pay their bills with poisons (mercury, fluoride, MSG, aspartame, etc.).

So, these monsters are the executors of my suffering, but those who have done nothing to stop them are the enablers; And that group, unfortunately, includes a lot of otherwise "good" people.

I believe you've cursed God earlier in this thread, and I understand your anger, but if you understand that the purpose of life is for us to see things the way they really are (evil for evil and good for good), (and then react properly to it,) then it all becomes more comprehensible.

Evil is not some guy running around in a red suit playing tricks on people. Evil is evil; and this, we have forgotten.

The truth that gets me through this otherwise maddening life is this:

[color:"brown"]"For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory; While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal."[/color]

—2 Corinthians 4:17-18

(He uses the word "light" to draw more contrast to the point, not to literally consider our affliction light. Paul well knew the weight of our affliction.)

This truth does not help me because I'm deluding myself into believing this stuff to make myself feel better. It helps me because I've done my homework and I know the evidence and I know it's actually true.

I would also say that this is not the fault of the U.S., or the people of the U.S., or the people of any other country. It's the fault of all of us in every country. There is no country in the world that has not allowed themselves to be completely taken over by soul-selling rock-star politicians who fly a yellow-fringed flag and view you and I as a rodent. Not one!

And so the prophecies of the Bible speaking about the final one-world government have come true. They didn't have to, for God's prophecies are conditional. But the real evidence of our blindness is that we allowed it to happen even after being forewarned.

So I understand your anger, but it's important to understand that your conduct in suffering is being watched and witnessed and recorded and is, indeed, an opportunity that should be seized.

You are valuable, and therefore, you suffer at the hands of those who are not, but only for a while; Only long enough for you to develop the character to gracefully endure it and then to help others learn how to gracefully endure it, for after that, it serves no useful purpose.


"The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears with composure one heavy mischance after another, not because he does not feel them, but because he is a man of high and heroic temper."

—Aristotle

russ i am very sorry u are sufefring again, cause i could really relate to your story when i read it in 06 , and yeah its not fair. but what i'm really haveing problems about is not the fact that i'm sufefring or extremely sufferig, it's the TYPE of suffering. its not just about it that it's mental, cause mental torments i had all my lfie to an extent, it's that in all the confusion and dementia i am in i cannot find a constant, u say it's an opportunity for us to learnand I can't learn much. Those things u say, that we have to seize this knowledge and see it as an opportunity - I agree with you and it is some kind of comfort, but it's nothing i can retain in my mind, i will forget all about it in the morning, or just remmber parts of it but not able to graps the whole idea... this is a paradox, and that's why i am so angry , I'd really prefer to have some sort of MS, or even cancer, or other contions that people have here, but have more of my cognitive functions so I coud have SOME BASE for interaction with the world and God, and truths, but is'a like u are stuck and even all those fine - and true! - words are of little comfort where u cant ehm... utilise them? That's my anger, also at God, that he doesnt make things juts a bit more easy. Plus u get very little understanding from your family and other people and even at pleaces where u would expect understanding (yes, it's about u so sick).

Really my anger is not just that i remain sick, cause we all are, but because I'm incapable in a practical manner to make sense of all of it. (not that there isnt or i cant see it at time,s just cant utilise it cause of my dementia). like i say it's like u're stuck in a paradox. hope I'm making sense/

"The beauty of the soul shines out when a man bears with composure one heavy mischance after another, not because he does not feel them, but because he is a man of high and heroic temper."

—Aristotle

- this is very beuatiful and true russ but can it be for people deeply mentally ill? (dont include myself in this group yet but i know i'm heading there).

hope u get better again russ, u have been an inspriration to many.

.So sick, have some compassion, that is digusting!
Mike is the worst hit here, he is going through sheer mental torture, i have been there, mental symptoms are far worse than anything else.
So please either have a heart or dont reply at all, he is on the edge, dont push him.
Mike,sorry your feeling so bad, what can i say except this illness wrecks people lives! Try and hang in there, i know how hard that is, and i think you are brave having had these symptoms for so long.
Dawn x

JUST WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS THREAD AND POSSIBLY OTHERS FROM THE PAST.

I know some people like So Sick may view a thread like that put only to draw attention and very egocetric. bascially a 'crybaby wanting attention'. That's not about it, I'm sorry if people get it that way. Well it is egocentic to a point, but how can venting in suffering be not? Whenever I post those things, I never expect people to answer or join in self-pitty,, but these sort of feeling like "f* this life" when u are not reposnding to treatment are A PART of the whole illness so I dont understand why poeple SHOULD NOT VENT if their situation is really dire. Because honestly, what do they have left? Really nobody needs to answer if he/she dont want to , noones twisting arms here, and it's really fine by me, and if any gets sick of me or anyone else venting they can say that - just politely and i can go.

dawn - thx for your compassion my friend but i dont consider myself the wirst hit here. i eamn i know I am really like top 10? lol but really not me to judge, but it's probbaly so sick who thinks i think of myself as the worse sufferer on earth (where i am not) and just want to draw attention or something.

what I am saying everybody is ulitemetly the judge of themsleves, and if their suffering is exteme and they cant handle it they should have full right to say what's on their mind, as long as they are not offending anyone. so sick unfrtunetely would like to believe that suffering can be measureable and comparable.

Jinx, had I not been through similar myself, I would possibly have little to no understanding of the intensity of these kinds of sufferings that some people endure.

When I had mercury, I was a mess, depending on how it affected me and my behaviour was terrible. I appeared to be egocentric, but my thoughts were turned inwards. I cannot quite explain it, but it definitely was not me. However, even then, through efforts, I was able to move forward and detox. When you respond to treatment with healing crisis and/or improvements, it is empowering! Slow healing also returns more and more motivation and mental functionig and positivity.

Some people on this forum, sick as they are, may not be as ill as others and may not suffer from conditions that fail to respond to cleanses/detoxes. Those that do not, will not understand those that do. Had I stayed as I was and detoxed my mercury, I would probably not understand failure to respond Jinx, as any toxin will respond to detox. Plain and simple.

since viral/bacteria infections, life has taken on a new and horrific turn for me. Treatments that once worked, my body fails to respond. THe long term problem is not being dealt with no matter what is done temporarily. You maybe suffering similar from infection, hard to say. You are making efforts, even with an illness that is causing so much distress and lack of motivation. There was a time when even getting out of bed for me was an acheivement, the fact I was getting up and trying to live, was an achievement. Some people may not understand that. IT depends what you have, how badly you have it and how its affecting you.

To respond to treatments over time is a motivation to continue those treatments. If others do not respond the same way, it does NOT mean they are failing or not making efforts. They maybe suffering differently and the problems they have may not respond to detox. Hal Huggins himself even said in cases of cavitations etc, that he has seen people make marathon cleansing efforts, fasting etc, and getting nowhere or little to no results. Infections can do that to a person, they are not the same as drug/alcohol detox or mercury detox. Damage is also not a case of "just detox". Unfortunately it can happen, though the body has an incredible healing power too, which is why we should never give up and keep doing what we can under the circumstances.

But the cause of some of these things maybe a mystery, but does not mean lack of efforts on the sufferers behalf or a case of self pity. Certain conditions can most definitely create mental problems and the appearance of self pity or selfishness and even violent tendencies and negativity. I have been there and still go there, especially if I cheat on my diet and have to recover again.

It has taken me years and years to have any kind of faint acceptance inside and Russ' post made all the sense to me! Thank you Russ. It has taken me THIS long to find any kind of acceptance and faint understanding. I still hate it with every inch of my being, but I'm not eaten up as much. Some kind of resignation I guess, but not in the sense of giving up. I am still in pain, but in another way.

However, if I'm in a toxic torment? All that can go out of the window for me, I'm back being as negative and insane as ever. I have to remember that with some control of symptoms, comes further control and calm in the mind also and a sense of peace inside the spirit. When the other happens, all those things can change very quickly. It is very true that certain sicknesses can even seem to affect the spirit!

Some people are toxic and sick, but they are not as toxic and sick as others on this forum and still manage to do much more for themselves. I've been there and know how it is when you can still do at least that! I've also been in the situation where I've been bedridden or so ill that I could barely sit in a chair and exist.

That's why I can understand this kind of suffering and outbursts.

Bex I know you do, and it's easier to understand things for us but the thing is I dont know if we have to make allowances for people like So Sick and her behaviour because most people here being let's say (and that's just relative) "moderately" sick or sick in a different way than others have imagination enough to realise "they dont know the whole story" and some people maybe worse, and they should at least aknowldege that to themsleves and refrain from judgement, esp since they know how easily judged most mercury toxic people are by the "world". and most peple do that, they realise it, and that's beuriful in a way, cause sufferng makes them empathize with suffering of others (even if different), YET So Sick CHOOSES to judge people. With all that people are going through here its not just ignorance on her part bex, it's convenient ignorance.

yet i hope i'm wrong.

well y'all, from my perspective, which clearly sees mike is far from the worst hit here, considering we've even seen one die the past few months... he's up at the computer doing his swearing cursing bit when he gets a chance, offending anyone with a sense a decency that happens along.

Maybe jinx, I got better because I had to get better.. i don't have a mommy to pay the bills and feed me, I am the mommy with a child to take care of, feed and clothe daily.

But you never consider anyone except yourself when you curse us, and life, and everything else that comes to your mind in your moments of derision, negative attention seeking and pointing blame at everyone else for your troubles.

everyone's suffered, hate to have to point it to out you, obviously you missed it. You've got it pretty good compared to quite a few, even some homeless folks who have shown up now and then. does mommy even pay your internet bill jinx? how many here have it so good?

at some point you do have quit digging your ditch jinx. and quit begging for attention as you shovel your dirt.

sorry for being vocal about not desiring to join you in it. but it's pretty tiring already listening to your outbursts of profanity and showing up to see them them declared on the front page of the website daily. It's rude, it;s depressing, it's gross. It makes me sick daily. you, jinx, you make me sick. I could vomit over 90% of your posts that are purposeless beyond your desire to express profanities in public.

find yourself a padded cell if you need to exhibit some aggressive behavior, maybe your parents are right and maybe you should commit yourself.

So Sick

why don't you just let jinx be? He's sick, he's hurting - he has a basic right to say what he wants. If you don't like it, ignore it. You don't have to respond. The way you are talking to someone who is in despair is frankly insulting and rude. As I tell my children, live and let live. Don't jump right in there and start dishing the dirt. It helps no-one.

Nicola

thx nicola.

so sick you're the last person on this forum to be preaching anyone about agressive behaviour.

to you cursing overall (because of sufering) is the same as cursing PEOPLE (which I've never done), expressing injustice - even with cursing that does not adress anyone but oneself- is blaming everyone else (which I haven't done)... maybe u see agression in people cause you might be full of it yourself?

unfortunately it's impossible to ignore. jinx does not want to be ignored. If he did he wouldn't pop in everyday or so to broadcast his vulgar language problem in everyone's face. It's not like he makes remarks deeply hidden within a thread here.

why don't you just ignore me Nicola? I wasn't talking to you anyway either.

It's pretty pathetic the way you all jump on my case for asking jinx to get a handle on his language. Any particular reason you don't jump all over jinx for his language in the first place?

He needs to get a handle on it or get some professional help if he cannot control it. It's blatently offensive and it is not helping people get well, myself included. If my asking him to quit offends you maybe you need to examine yourselves too.

correct me if I'm wrong but we're not here to see who can swear the most are we? or help people to think stupid thoughts all day. and that's all jinx is helping anyone with at this point, including himself.

get a handle on it. It's offensive, rude and it makes people sick.

Maybe it would be easier to just put the whole thing in God's hands Russ. the bible says we will eat poison and it will not hurt us. the bible also says it's useless for us to worry.

rely on those words. have you ever considered your faith is also being tested?

I believe the lord said something to me about taking a long vacation from NY in april. not a permanent move. maybe you won't be staying there. have faith Russ.

you know generally, when I really need Jesus to heal me... I get down on my knees and beg and plead and simply wait. Or I lay flat on back depneding on my condition. I don't get up till he touches me. there've been times i waited all day, sometimes an hour, often just 5 minutes. but I guess that would depend on your relationship with him. he knows I ask a lot I guess.

have faith.

I have had a headache the past couple days, ah yes drinking beer on memorial day.. a headache even feverfew could not relieve, may be the humaworm done me in too because this headache has been threatening all week and it finally showed up, not the worst i'ver ever had but bad enough.. I have this cd rom that I listen to, called 'song of angels' by freddy hayler, if I ever get headaches that are too big for even the feverfew, it happens not often but happens or mostly i don't eat the feverfew but anyway.. if I listen to that cd rom with headphones on quietly, by the time the music is finished my headache is always gone. something about that music. of course I went out to the garden and pruned a around a bit earlier after it went away and then it came back so i had to listen again. worked again real good.

Freddy hayler says he wrote the music after God gave him this revelation and it's his best try at music he heard the angels singing and stuff God said to him. others claim it heals them too. it really does work for me pretty reliably.,, the presence of the Lord when we worship, he heals us.. you might want to pick up a copy, you can order it online. I have the vol. 1.

God forbid your daughter doesnt get ill,So-sick, cos you dont have an ounce of sympathy or care or understanding for the the sick. You never went through mental torture so you should never had responded to jinxes post. All you have done is upset some people here, Jinx was only venting, he is surrounded by people who dont believe or know what he is going through, ive been there, got the t-shirt. Have a heart!

If you have a closer look you see this particular thread I started on 4thMay, before there was my 'defeated and destryed thread' on 31st March, before that it was 24th of februrary, seems like at least a one month discrepency doesnt it? And even two days ago I wrote here again, and that was 27thMay, 20 or so days after the initial post, and notice I did NOT start a new thread to 'get somene's attention' just wanted to vent and did it here. But to you it's "everyday or so", so you so sick black&white.


Cause they are mature people enough to see that my language is just for frustration expression and not to attack anyone. Your language on the other hand is used to attack someone. You're like a big child So Sick, you fail to recognise that there'a an INTENTION and context behind everything we do, what you recognize and judge is only the superficial part.

yes I agree I may sometimes go overboard with the language for good taste sake, but taking everything into account cursing is sometimes justified. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT mercury sometimes causes extreme suffering and IN SOME CASES it's not alleviated, esp if someone claims to have psychitaric issues (DUE TO MERCURY) .


Oh committed and gotten "professional help" the same way all unaware mercury toxic people get?
What are you doing HERE So Sick? (just posing a rhetorical question, not telling you to get out of here, cause that's probably how you'd get it).

Ever heard of EMPATHY SoSick? Heard mercury can damage it really bad.


spell E-M-P-A-T-H-Y. (nicola can!)

Most people put people before other things. You do the opposite.

I will say more: YOU FAIL TO SEE HUMAN BEINGS IN HUMAN BEINGS.

Jinx this is one of the most supportive forums I have seen. Like seriously people are so helpful, you would never think in a million years most of us are sick.


Just because 1 person out of 50 is annoyed doesn't mean you have to engage.


Hopefully arguing at least takes the mind off the problems, if only for 15 minutes

You are kind of right kriminal. Thing is it's not the first time So Sick has acted like this. And solely for the respect for the integrity of this forum and it's quality (supportiveness as u say and I agree) I had to respond.

(though gotta admit it was kind of personal as well)

oooooooooooh...

Actually, Dawn, we don't use curse words in our house, and God forbid we curse life itself, our own lives even... maybe that's why my daughter has never been sick in all of her close to 14 years with the exception of a fever once for 3 hours and a few minor sniffles... or maybe it's because we have a savior who is the breath of life itself... and love..

I hope you don't ever have a fight with your daughter Dawn, after all the swearing and cursing is over you'll probably only hate each other and your lives even more.

It's actually shocked me somewhat from the get go since I found this website, the language that is often used here by some of you. I've been around the block a few times, been in some pretty sleazy places even, and I still have difficulty trying to recall any place I've seen or heard people speak to each other worse than some of you do here. You can try to blame it on mercury but it's rather evident the problem lies deep with your souls and all the chelation in the world will not cure it.

Ok now it is evident you are trolling
Care to post examples of the language you speak of?

And I actually think Jinx didn't need to respond to you since like 95% of the site always supports him in his threads, while in that rambling post he only defamed his character with self entitlement to get the support of the last 5 %

You mean . . . like people who call someone a liar, hate-filled Christian-basher, stupid, ignorant, child-abusing, incompetent, and any number of things pulled out of their hat, despite the fact they've never met the person they're insulting?

You're lucky to be allowed to post in a forum where you can freely say these things to people, stir them up, and revel in it. Your words say a lot about you and you seem to be completely blind to this. What you've said to Jinx and others here is unbelievable and if you think that's perfectly OK, while you think you have the authority to preach to others about how to behave, then you need to do some serious soul-searching of your own.

I don't actually have a problem with the odd swear word. What really gets me though is sneering and a lack of compassion for fellow human beings. I wouldn't speak to my dog the way you speak to us, So Sick.

I will add my two cents and i think some people will hate me for this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Maybe SoSick has still problems from mercury in her brain and that is why she has difficulties relating to other people. Taking chelating agents randomly with fillings still in and adding cilantro on top of that (like she did) sounds risky and can cause weird brain symptoms.

Not being able to relate to other people is one of them....

I don't know bg123, considering the fact that I can actually feel my fingertips, they aren't numb anymore, considering the fact that my brain no longer burns every day, considering the fact that I have a good amount of positive energy, though you might disagree which is meaningless to me in that context since you don't sit at my desk and do my work, considering the fact that my teeth have stopped hurting, considering the fact my feet don't hurt anymore and my bones have stopped aching, considering the fact that my short term memory loss has pretty much ceased altogether... i'd say the cilantro has been pretty effective even with a few amalgams still in.

also considering the fact that if all the amalgam were removed from my teeth chances are better I'd lose the teeth than have a successful replacement, considering the fact I have some pretty extreme reactions to various types of plastics and resins.. well gosh bg123, I could just sit around and suffer and complain all day, but since following your suggestions won't help me do anything but sit around and complain and suffer all day and probably end up indigent living on the street, sorry, but I think I'll ignore your advice since you don't sit at my desk and do my work and feed my kid and pay my bills.

Imegha, the occasional swear word doesn't bother me either. this topic is not an occasional swear word, it's a main topic obviously presented to provoke and inflame. There are lots of items we could present with the same model, why don't you do that and see where it gets you, maybe it will make you lots of friends too. We could all do it everyday, I guess eventually Russ would have to shut the board down, FCC regulations et al.

And Linda, how convenient you express your opinion. I never called you a child abuser, I did once mention that you appeared rather neglectful, so has Bex mentioned it Linda. Are you angry at her too? I probably have called you a Christian basher, so have half a dozen other people, I wonder why? I have suggested you do lie, but also that you have a very selective memory. I wonder why? It would do you well Linda to reread every thread where anyone has made any assertions of the type you claim and you will notice one thing Linda, you called someone names first, it is always, always,, simply payback to you Linda. Do your own soul searching, the Lord searches mine daily.

go hear a few real preachers preach too. some real honesty and less selectivity from the christian haters around here would be very much appreciated.

you guys always gang up on me if I take offense to your nonsense... you are soooo eager to throw your crap at me while you suggest I shutup and let you... shutup yourselves. I have a right to my opinion too, you dog lovers. I am prepared for your goon squad.


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nah kriminal, that be stupid to ger the support of remaining 5%, it'd actually be offensive to all the other people here, i am really content wth the support I think the people here are GREAT, would never expect such comradship from an internet forum, and often feel guilty I cannot give my support to others here as much as others do because of my illness. so sick is fully entitled to her own opinion, what I found disgusting mostluy is her ATTITUDE and the WAY she does that. You kirminal I think expressed your discontent wit my or tarcy's rambling before, but I dont remmeber you doing that in an unpolite and unreasonable manner, hence no argument cause it's cool. The spirit of this forum was always supportiveness and tolerance to me, and so sick with her atttude downright defies that.

but possibly i maye have acted diifferently hadn't it been for my brain toxicity.


yes so sick, YOU DO, but first the way you do it is appaling, and second having the right to your own opinion doesnt justify your hastiness in passing judgement.

You don't like the fact that I question creationist beliefs in the designated forum area. You think this is good reason to say these kinds of things to me. You have made the most offensive kinds of personal remarks despite the fact that you don't even know me. You have made similar remarks here to Dawn -- a kind and very strong woman who has battled with debilitating illness for years and managed to raise a family on top of it. Do you have any clue what that's like? I thought a good Christian was supposed to care about people,as Jesus did, but you've made it clear that you think this only applies to fellow fundamentalists with the same beliefs as you. Instead of taking anything to heart here, you are now prepared to fight some kind of sef-righteous battle. It's unbelievable that you've been allowed to stay here and talk; I can't think of any other forum I've ever belonged to where your insults would be tolerated. I suggest you digest what's been said here and reconsider your attitude towards people here who are ill and need help and understanding. This includes me, believe it or not, and sometimes (like now) I'm not as patient as I would like to be.

Helllloooo...

Why would it bother me if you question creationist beliefs Linda? I question them myself.

Oh, I see, it's ok for Dawn to tell me my words are disgusting but jinx's word's, which I simply repeated, are ok... and it's ok for Dawn to say offensive things to me but's not ok for me to say more or less the same thing back to her.

Listen.. do this..

Make a list of rules, post them right here in public for everyone to see,... a list of rules that apply to yourself and then a list of rules that apply to me or other Christians or anyone else expressing opposing opinions to yourself.

Can you do that please and then with that bit of clarification we'll see where we're at.

-- because really, if Dawn actually thinks my use of those words is disgusting, she should have said exactly the same thing to jinx long before she said it to me. They are disgusting, that's exactly what I have been saying here, offensive, rude and disguting. Dawn is actually in agreement with me but she must have something else bothering her if she needs to insult me while she lifts jinx up for doing the same thing.

et al to the rest. why are you condemning me for simply doing what you yourselves are doing? I am only following your examples.

YAWN.... gave up arguin with the sick one yonks go, feelin better for it, too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Like I said, learned me a good one from ma Uncle Floyd, ( part time Chinese sage,,, stage name Dr. Froyd)
"Never argue with a fool, passers by may not know the difference"
Same goes for folks who are plain ol provacative , uncaring. obnoxious...., we got a prollem here an my suggestion is to make it go away by not feedin it. There won't be a purty outcome no matter what alls said here.
Theres a lot a support here for folks who care. if the words of SS felt like they came from a carin place ( thats kinda Christian , ain't it?) it might have a lot more meaning, an a better outcome.
Love y'all <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hi Elvis. Would you like to take this up in another thread (let's get out of this one) and tell us how you've been doing?

Sosick you are acting like the world is black and white
The only thing that matter when saying curse words is context. I am pretty sure you could speak without them and insult someone way worse than using them.

Using them in frustration like the title of the thread is fine. Using them spitefully to kick someone when they are down is not.

hey there Linda Lou, just skippin out , but talk more later, this here is just a corndog cheeseball lil video a natural enemies makin a real fine freindship;
http://www.slide.com/r/hD6DvyAOxD9ClUhvUpVcUMABW9QzpGnQ
felt compelled to post it.
Jinx darlin, that brain a yours is workin wayyyy better n y'all are givin it credit <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />,
few good points are bein made here, bless y'all.

If the best you can do when someone is close to the edge is hold their hand and tell them you feel like jumping too you are going to have absolutely no one but yourself to blame when he finally jumps.

And dragging others down along with you is not helpful in anyway either.

If we're actually here to support each other and get well I suggest we all make an effort to do that, specifically, and nothing less even if it's sometimes difficult.

Life is not something to curse if you truly have any intention of living.

you can insult me all day long kriminal, I'm just playing your insult game back with you, you pathetic moron.

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So-Sick, you may aswell give up on this one cos we all love Jinx and offer support to him, its what this forums about dont you know.
This forum is one of the best, when i first came here it was like it was sent by god, please dont spoil it, you say you are in good health but your attitude spells, hormonal.
Elvis, you are right, this is my last comment on this thread.

People need outlets, and this forum can help with venting if people feel they don't have anyone else.
Blowing off steam is actually helpful, or do you suggest people to bottle up everything and one day explode? I bet this thread actually helps them connect knowing someone else is going through the same, people give each other strength


While Jinx seems depressed, I haven't actually see him try kicking someone while they are down.
And people who are depressed usually try to put other people down to get any kind of reaction since they feel disconnected from the world. Misery loves misery applies here, and I have been guilty of doing it too. I haven't really seen people doing it in these forums and it is mind boggling because a lot of us are sick.

Make an effort? It seems while you believe in mercury poisoning, you are quick to hand out judgment on who is really suffering. True pain is relative and some people might complain worse than others, but instead of quoting bumper stickers you have to believe people are really sick.
You don't tell a diabetic person to try to make an effort and start producing insulin



Can you actually quote me where I insulted you? I am giving you just perspective since you seem to need it.

Have any of you heard about a certain science experiment that 3rd grade teachers like to do with the kids these days?

They take two bowls of cooked rice. They place them on opposite sides of the room. To one bowl of rice, for a few weeks, the kids pass by and say 'I love you' to it. To the other bowl of rice the kids walk by and say 'I hate you' to it.

The bowl of rice that was told 'I love you' everyday often ferments and turns to wine.

The bowl of rice that was told 'I hate you' everyday, without exception, rots.

For almost the entire last month. quite often when I have arrived at this website it says F**K THIS LIFE on the front page.

Perhaps you can explain to me Dawn, jinx, or kriminal, what exactly you expect to be achieved by this?

There are a lot of people here who are in this battle of life, and life can be very difficult at times for most anyone, to win, not lose. Why do you persist in speaking death and failure into us?

Why don't you just let this thread die and move on. If Russ were wise he would delete it. It's obscene.

Hello Sosick. I agree with you, although I can also sympathize with what Jinx is going through. It helps to try to keep things in perspective though. This allness can at times cause many problems, however one must try to keep the proper perspective. There are a number of illnesses that are far more debilitating and much more painful. Let's be glad we don't have those.

"I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man without feet".

kriminal - a very sound argument

I disagree JK. While I realy dont want to make this thread any bit more about me, trying to keep "a proper perspective" does not matter one bit when mercury and it's related problems severy affect THE MIND. So if so sick or anyone else ask what the purpose of this thread is? Well that suffering IS NOT MEASURABLE and as much as we would like to believe for our own COMFORT that all the pains, symptoms etc can be LABELLED/CATEGROIZED.... they CANT. And I would hate for any other future 'jinxies' or others to keep things bottled up.

really so sick, while i understand u might be disgusted by the language, if u had a sense of what things are really about, you wouldn't mind it one bit. but u dont see the content of it all so sick, you just see this one big bad F-word.

and good example about the bowl of rice, basically about sending positive energy. What do you think things like "kirminal, you moron" make you so sick, a wine-maker or a rot-maker? (you will probably direct the same thing at me, and I wont answer cause think enough has been said, point is, do you follow your own advice?)

and I agree with bg you might have more of a mercury problem than u think. and I can relate to it first hand cause being poisoned all my life I used to be one judgemental a*hole myself. mercury poisoning I think exists in stages, you getting rid of all those symptoms (what u said to bg) might just have been going from stage 2 to stage 1, but u can still be stuck within stage 1.

Oh it's definitely a rot maker jinx. The problem with people like you jinx, not necessarily kriminal who actually is kind of nice btw and that comment was very much at his expense for an example, is that you don't give a hoot about hurting others with your words and attitudes but you cry like a big baby when someone does the same thing to you. Why is so easy for your see I hurt kriminal with my words but so difficult to see that you do the same to others with yours?

Why you fail to see what is going on I really don't know.

But I would rather have mercury poisoning any day than jinx poisoning. At least I know how to approach the mercury poisoning and heal from it. What you do to people with your words is like an open wound seeping pus all day and the only hope you provide is no hope.

There is a sicknesss at this website that has nothing to do with mercury, and you are one of the leaders of the pack.

Like I said before, you make me sick. i am not just saying it to say it. You truly make me sick. Since you started this thread action at the board has ceased little by little over the weeks. No one wants the sickness of your words in their faces every day and imprinted on their brains to carry around for the rest of the week. it's a sickness what you do jinx. it's death and failure and all sorts of ugly. You are no better than a dentist who enjoys hurting little kids.

We need to find a cure for jinx sickness after this board now if this thead is going to stay here. as for me, I am out of here I guess. It's too gross to watch for my appetite. I am tired of your words ruining my day, and btw, that is long before I ever bothered to post in this obscene thread of yours. This thread and seeing those words everyday... because if you haven't noticed when it's sitting at the top of the pile here everyone goes away, probably to puke. and it just sits there all alone all day long.

You need to get a grip on things jinx and realize how your words and vulgarity hurts others. You are like a spirit of death.

land sakes, sombodys plain ol nutsy-coo coo...: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ! downright embarressin . <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ambulance.gif" alt="" />
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Hey Jinxy, y'all are trackin purty good here and the main thing is y'all ain't all bitter an twisted, now there's a blessin.
Thang, is, though, to my eyes, y'all prolly got a touch a the Lyme disease. an thats a toughy to diagnose properly. wisht y'all could get some expert help there lil buddy.

Ok so sick I AGREE those words CAN be repelling to some. I APOLOGIZE to YOU or anyone else who felt offened by them. Yet is it so hard to understand so sick they are NOT an INTENTIONAL insult? Doesn't that fact matter at all? Doesn't it matter at all that your sad remarks are intentional and directed AT people whereas mine arent, not intenionally anyway? ("kriminal YOU moron", "F* THIS=mine LIFE"). Doesn't it matter that possibly what u call "jinx poisoning"="mercury poisoning"? Doesn't it matter we are just sick and vulnarable?

Doesn't it matter we are just people, so sick?

It's my last post here, cause we're going in circles. (and may the thread die and not repel anyone).

-- and I do realize, jinx, that your words, originally, are not intended or directed at me personally but are just very random put out there simply because you are having a hard time.

Just another type of random violence, just like a guy who walks into a schoolyard and kills children he has never met before. His act isn't personal or directed at anyone in particular either but many individuals, parents, siblings, peers of the children who have been hurt by the random act of violence, suffer quite personally as result because one person they never even met before was having a rough day.

What you do jinx, and others like you who do the same here, is exactly the same thing. I have spent the past year objecting to this type of behavior here only to be told repeatedly that I am the bad guy by many of you.

At this point in time, I guess I must finally concede, your sickness is what you are. You have repeatedly rejected mine or anyone elses' requests for a change in attitude.

But there isn't any reason for anyone else to join you in all of it except that we choose to. and I decline, thanks for the headaches.

We are just people jinx. But it's long past time for you to recognize the rest of us.

....

A few suggestions:

1.) It is a person's choice to read, or not to read, any thread here. If you don't like what it's saying then why go there?

2.) If you think you have something constructive to say to someone, or some words of wisdom, do you think you're going to get them to want to take notice by insulting them? Do you really think it's going to accomplish anything other than fostering hostility?

This whole thread is an excellent example of why we need a moderator here.

Thank you kindly sunflower, an thats the way it should be, people losin their programmin for warlike tendancys, regarden differnt folks as the enemy cuz you ain't what I am. Howsabout some friendly concern, and errin on the side a kindness an empathy? Sure could be a better picture that way, more fun anaways.
The risin tide floats all boats my friends (and fiends alike )

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/fro.gif" alt="" />

Aw geeze, I got another star, y'all are great. Sorry I ain't her more often. Needs must for now, the whole dang global scene is goin to hell in a handbasket, sheesh, Leastaways we can be kind to our own kind.

( hey, wadn't that fun when jill showed up?) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

LOL . . . yes, there were some interesting conversations with her. I wonder what she's up to now. No more anonymous posters, so I guess that spoiled some of her fun.

Good movie Elvis!!! Jinx I hope you feel better soon. That's all I have to say on this thread!!! LOL