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#32659 03/01/08 06:03 PM
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bex will probably know this , i can do without many things , like alcohol, sugar, white flour , caffiene ,but I need to find a substitute for wheat bread to control candida , any suggestions ?

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Food For Life ( http://www.foodforlife.com/gluten-free-wheat-free-breads.html ) makes wheat-free breads for people who are wheat & gluten intolerant.

Their non-wheat breads include brown rice, white rice, multi seed, rice almond and black rice.

The ingredient list for the brown rice bread is Rice Flour, Filtered Water, Fruit Juice Concentrate (pineapple, peach, pear), Tapioca Flour, Safflower Oil, Fresh Yeast, Vegetable Gum; xanthan, cellulose, Rice Bran and Sea Salt.

Food For Life also makes Ezekiel bread, which is sprouted wheat that has no gluten (don't know if candida likes the wheat or the gluten in the wheat.) I've had the Ezekiel bread, and it's really good. Don't know about the wheat free ones, though...

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Candida will grow on any high carbohydrate source. For a while I gave up on pasta for the reason, then decided to start eating pasta again, but only when it is smothered in huge amounts of garlic and onion.

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Hi Mikey, well when I could still eat grain (non gluten), I used to get rice cakes to munch on. But I would go to the healthfood shops and sometimes some of them have non gluten grain breads, or they can make some up, or give you recipe. You can phone around and ask if they have ready made non wheat/gluten bread.

I used to get one that was a combination of buckwheat and rice flour bread. Or corn bread, or rye (non wheat, but apparently it's still gluten?). But I used to be ok on rye for some reason.

I was bad on wheat though. I was ok on oats porridge, even though that too can be a problem, but later i had issues with it.

So the safest is probably corn, rice, buckweat etc if you're issue is gluten as well as wheat. Wheat is a baddie for mercury poisoned people because it is apparently treated with mercury fungicide, as well as being a gluten grain at the sametime.

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I've heard Americans recommend a sprouted bread called Ezekiel that you can buy in health food shops. Not sure where you are in the world. ?

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thanks for your replys , I know where to get the ezielel bread I'll give it a try , thanks again

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I can’t handle any wheat now, but I can handle spelt bread and rye bread. Needs to be 100pct rye or 100pct spelt……these are heaven sent for me. The fresh baked stuff is best although those packet jobs are ok in a processed kinda way…I get no bad reaction from them either


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Yes, Ezekiel 4:9 is the sprouted wheat bread that is made by Food for Life, like KiwiDee mentioned. It is WONDERFUL!!!! I have tried many "healthy" breads, and I could hardly choke them down, they were so terrible. Patrick Sullivan recommended this bread, because it's the one he eats. I give the Food for Life bread a thumbs up!!! You can find it in the frozen section at a health food store (no preservatives, so can't keep on the shelf), and here, our Kroger chain carries them in the Organic section (frozen), so be sure and check your grocery stores, too. Do visit their website, it has a "store finder" on it.

Keep it in the fridge, because I like I said, no preservatives, so it perishes if it's not cold. You can toast it (and add some real butter..YUM), or warm it up for a few seconds if you don't like it cold and hard. I made me a scrambled egg sandwich with it last night. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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bought a couple of loaves of the ezekiel bread from the health food shop along with some organic butter today , I forgot how good butter on toast tasted , I will be sticking with the bread to see how it go's , just got a question on honey , that would be very good on the bread but don't know how it effects mercury toxic people ? any input

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Honey is usually very healthy, but if you have candida, it will likely feed it too much. It's up to you and whether you feel you have bad enough yeast issues or not. It's not mercury that's the problem, but yeast typically goes along with mercury (and that's the problem). Some people find honey is as bad as sugar.

Fruit too. That can feed candida as well, as can potatoes, corn, peas, beans, carrots etc. Anything sweet/high carbohydrates will feed it. Grains also. Though non gluten/non wheat is much better option, they can still feed it sometimes in someone with a bad case of yeast.

I used to be able to handle honey, fruit, non gluten grain and milk and even potatoes (potatoe chips too), even though I had mercury and candida. I obviously did not have candida as badly as I have it now, but I certainly could NOT eat gluten, wheat or sugar or yeast. So not sure how on earth i managed to eat the other stuff, but obviously it was healthy enough not to have too much of an impact on me. natural sugars are far better obviously and much more slowly released into the system.

These days I cannot do that and due to infections, my diet is excessively restrictive, leaving me with only meat, eggs, yoghurt, raw nuts and low carb vegetables to consume. If I deviate off this, even slightly, I'm in trouble. Before I had mercury, but I did not have these infections, so I got away with more.

...you'll be the best judge for yourself.

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here is a link for making your own bread.
www.grains2mill.co.uk

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I got my first order from this place today

http://artisanbread-abo.co.uk/

It is fabulous. They do Essene bread too. I ordered the mixed box of wheat free for £22 including delivery. They are very fussy and use bio-dynamic methods and no added yeast. I am looking forward to trying all of the breads.




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Mati…………….yet again! cool website. I like it so much I just ordered the bread box. They also have pizza bases made from spelt…..i have not had a pizza in over one year…..man o man…I’m so excited…I order it straight away. Have no idea what I can put on the pizza…but I will find something dairy free

Another good recommendation from Mati<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/applause.gif" alt="" />


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I found a sprouted hemp bread that is yeast free at the health food store today , a little pricey but looks like it may be a good substitute

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Hi mati, thanks for that great site. 2 of the stockists are just down the road from me so i went and bought a loaf,its very nice! The rye bread is twice the size of the quinnoa and the rice bread.
I ordered a quinnoa and rice because they dont stock these, you have to order,i cant wait to try these.

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Hi Dawn

It's good isn't it. I had got so fed up with the Stamp Collection bread. I like this much better and it is better made.It's good to find a comany that is committed to quality as much as them.

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I got that bread from that bread shop. Was ok. Not brilliant, but ok. 6 or 7 out of 10. kamut and the rye bread was good…but needs toasting. Saying that………..its better than no bread! So I’m happy.

However………the spelt pizza base was OUTSTANDING. Oh yum! I have not have a pizza for over 1 year…………WOW……..totally 100pct a gigantic success. i will get them again for sure.


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Great! Pizza yummy!

I have just given up gluten <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sadblownose.gif" alt="" /> after reading that my high thyroid anti-bodies can be caused through gluten intolerance so none for me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> With some, it lowers the anti's. I feel pretty bad after 2 days gluten free so hoping it is a good sign. If this does not lower them sufficiently, there is also a medication called Naltrexone and there are promising signs that it works for some. Don't know if my body will accept it though, will have to wait to see if i can get my GP to prescribe it. If you are on Naltrexone you can't take steroids.


It also looks like there is a chance that i may not be able to take thyroid hormones, I have already talked to two with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis who have tried it and cannot even with corticosteriods for the adrenals. I should have been on Armour for the last 9 years before things got this bad but believed my doctor who said that I just had to wait till the thyroid was destroyed then take Synthroid..

My only chance is that the thyroid is not too far gone, and i can get rid of the anti-bodies. Plenty of sings that it is though. Otherwise there is nothing that can be done and certainly not replacing the amalgams when the endocrine system is this bad.. I am doing the urine test this weekend but the saliva test will have to wait until next weekend with using the adrenal concentrate in oder to assess the situation. The more I know the worse it gets <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />.


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