Hi, my name is Shonda. I have been having health problems for 10yrs. I've tried all sorts of things to heal myself and taken useless tests and had some possibly useful tests I couldn't interpret. I just think though this Hg poisoning thing may be me.

I have 16 amalgams. 8 are under crowns (the kind with the metal plate underneath), 2 of which are silver. One of the crowns has a root canal thru it. And, I have two titanium retainers from ortho work.

I didn't think of it till I came here, but my first major symptoms (peripheral neuropathy in my chest and leg) started about the same time as I had a crown put on and I also started noticing pain in one of my already crowned teeth. It's all been downhill from there.

I have symptoms of adrenal fatigue, and some symptoms of hypothyroid. I never thought I had HT because I am very thin and can't gain wt. I have high histamine levels. I have peripheral neuropathy in my side, chest and leg (all on the left side) that starts hurting when I eat carbohydrates (pretty much any type at this point). I get visual disturbances (last night I closed my eyes and saw gold streaks moving the the rhythm of the box fan we had running). My hearing is getting distorted. I have lichen planus that comes and goes (appears to be estrogen sensitive). I get fever blisters in my mouth. I pretty much get some sort of problem with almost any food I eat. My emotions are starting to flatten, except the anxiety ones, which are worsening along with my OCD symptoms. My eyelid and eardrum twitch -- also carb sensitive and on the left side. The thing is, I look fine to most. And, all my symptoms are not debilitating in and of themselves, it's just that taken together, they scream, "Something is really wrong here." They've come and gone in severity depending on my diet. At one time, I had them symptoms under control by limiting my carbs and then limiting the type of carbs I ate, but eventually, it all came back.

I crave sugar, salt, eggs (well I did until this tummy bug that I just got over -- I would eat 4 - 10 eggs a day). I felt better on a SAMe supplement I was taking for OCD. Oh, and I have OCD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

Should I feel better or worse on SAMe? Eggs?
I'm breastfeeding, does anyone know where I can get my breastmilk tested for Hg levels?
With the crowns and amalgam removal, is there a high chance I'm gonna lose several of those teeth? What about the root canal? I'm 38yrs old. I really hate the idea of having to have teeth pulled.
I used to have horrible yeast infections, but haven't had a vaginal one or thrush or anything in years. I thought Hg poisoned people almost always had yeast problems.
I also went into complete remission of symptoms during pregnancy; wouldn't Hg symptoms stick around, or would the change in adrenal/thyroid hormones mask it?

I've had many of these fillings since I was in elementary school/junior high, and have had a couple replaced. Most have just been crowned because they were so large to begin with, the dentist wouldn't replace them. My first dentist just unscruplously filled teeth for money, and my mouth was full of metal before we caught onto what he was doing. The second just buys into the ADA's line on Hg. I really want these things replaced, but the dough this in gonna cost overwhelms me, but the cost to my health is worth it. It would be easier for me to spend it if I could prove the poisoning. Reading about detox scares me too. I'm ok with getting worse for a while if I will heal for good after that; I'm just scared I'll get worse and then get stuck there.

I'm making an appt with a functional medicine physician in Dallas soon. I have talked with her assistant and am hopeful. She specializes in metabolic/endocrine hormones and does believe in Hg poisoning. I'm not even sure I would need any testing. As much Hg as is in my mouth, is there any doubt I have a Hg problem? I also know that Hg can cause thyroid problems with then cause the adrenal fatigue.

Sorry if this is long and rambling. I just made this connection and I'm overwhelmed. I've thought it could be Hg before, but for some reason it didn't stick with me until recently. I've been reading this forum now for days and am to page 14 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. Thank to all of you for posts!

Shonda

Welcome Shonda,
That sounds like mercury poisoning.

Sorry about the short reply,I need to get off this computer in a minute.I will write a longer reply later.

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Hi Shonda! It's nice to meet you, welcome to the forum.
It 100% sounds like Mercury to me, in fact, you sound a LOT like me. For me, when I breastfed, I noticed my baby's stool was more deep yellow than that of my other children, when I breastfed them. It absolutely STAINED everything it came in contact with, and I never understood why. I wasn't but a couple of weeks before her birth, that I realized what I had. I wasn't sure of the effects of breastfeeding etc, but I breastfed her for 10 months. Immediately after I stopped, her stool lost that dark yellow color, and became normal. Also, both of my youngest displayed behavior that "babies of mothers that have eaten a lot of tuna" display. They are both smart as can be, but I believe my son has a touch of autism from this. They both had delays in their motor skills, walking and talking. Neither one of them walked until 18 months, when both of my older children walked at 12. I had 10 years in between the pregnancies of my middle two children, so I had quite a gap in my life, for the mercury to "take me over", and I was in much worse shape with the youngest two. So, I still breastfed...I don't know if that was a good or bad thing. I hoped whatever goodness was in my breastmilk would "outweigh" whatever was bad in it. I hope to God it did.

From what I understand, no one ever seems to get a 100% diagnosis that they are mercury poisoned. It seems that if you are "excreting" mercury, then you have been exposed to it at some point. Most mercury you are exposed to is stored deep in your tissues, so I've heard, so it doesn't always show up in blood tests, etc. All the doctors that I've wanted to test me, have thought I was nuts, and to society, it seems that anyone that is NOT an MD is not recognized by the medical profession, SO I am "undiagnosed". I KNOW what I have, though, and hope to prove it to everyone somehow. ALL I know for sure, and I've heard it said many, many times.....people that are having health problems or feel like they have a supressed immune system etc are told to have their amalgam fillings removed. MD's and regular practicing dentists have said this..but never tell anyone why, other than it will "help them out". They say it will help the "burden" on the immune system. If it is safe, why is it a BURDEN? Your body knows when there's something in it that doesn't belong there. To me, I think my body's always been trying to "reject" my fillings, and manifested itself in whatever way it could.

I hope the doctor you are going to see will listen to you and give you some results. Please keep us updated on what happens!!!!

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Hi Shonda, with all that in your mouth, you could consider yourself quite amazing that you're functioning at all. WOW!

I have heard of people becoming ill from even ONE small pit filling in their mouth. I got ill from 8 amalgams and you have 16 of them, plus the other junk metal and toxins on top of it. I know it's amazing how much the body can actually tolerate, but often, at some point, it can no longer cope.

Often you are becoming unwell before the symptoms become something you can no longer ignore. Sometimes it takes a few other knocks to the immune system before that might happen, or it just starts happening because the body has already had years of it.

Mine became obvious once braces (toxic metal - nickel) were placed on my teeth. My body was obviously already battling the amalgam toxicity, but I did not realise it. Just one more knock was all that was required to send me into chronic illness from that moment onwards. Even though the braces were removed later, which only improved things mildly.

Yes, mercury is concentrated in breast milk. My mother had a mouth packed of amalgam and she breast fed me only for a while because she was literally poisoning me. They took me off it after a while because I was pretty much having GREEN bowel motions. So I was put on a formula. I reacted badly to her breastmilk, which is similar to how I respond to any metal at all, being hypersensitive.

It is a very hard situation for any mother, because breast milk contains all that the baby requires and builds the baby's gut and immunity. So then you have this on top of it and don't know which way to turn. I don't have the answers in that situation. My brother was born with hydrocephalis (water on the brain), so who knows whether that was mercury related in the womb, or what. Mind you, we have a genetic tendency in our family apparently on my father's side towards spina bifeda and hydrocephalis anyway.

My brother was breastfed and seemed to tolerate it just fine. He's actually, apart from all his operations for the brain etc, healthier than I am (weird eh?). Though he has to take strong medication daily for seizures (due to scar tissue in the brain). He's also blind in one eye (because doctors bumped the optic nerve during the operations), plus he's colour blind. Yet, all that aside, he's worked, he's married with 3 healthy kids and I'm the invalid. Yet I grew up the apparently "healthy kid".

Anyway sorry for digressing!!! Back to your post.

Sugars and high carbohydrate foods (honey, grains, fruit, milk, potatoes, beans, corn, etc) cheese and yeast etc are probably not such a wise move if you have a candida situation going on or other internal infection. They feed yeast/fungus. Mercury causes candida. Candida makes mercury worse. Candida gives off its own toxins at the sametime and sometimes it's hard to figure what symptoms are coming from what.

So usually it's wise to get yourself on a healthy candida diet, because for many it helps them cope, helps their symptoms and improves immunity and of course helps their body elminate more toxins (even some metals) naturally.

Some people can still consume limited amounts of fruit, grain (as long as its wheat/gluten free), and a bit of milk, so long as they avoid sugar and wheat/gluten and yeast. This in itself can make a tremendous difference for some people. It did with me. I was mercury toxic back then this diet I can honestly say to you saved my life!

So I would say to eliminate (for starters anyway) ALL sugar, ALL wheat/gluten and yeast from the diet. Wheat is treated apparently with mercury fungicide. Could this be why I would get almost immediately poisoning symptoms when I ate it? I never realised what I was doing to myself and after eating cereal, would wind up sitting on the floor, crying and salivating and I'd go completely cold. My nails would go blue etc. THis was obviously my body's way of saying "I cannot handle anymore mercury than I already have".

The difference in removing the wheat and gluten and sugar from the diet was remarkable. But it took a few weeks and I had to go through the initial detox, which was unpleasant. The temporary worsening you get can be very challenging because toxins can start spilling out of you, even out of the brain. I had some headaches, crying, craving of the very foods that candida needs to survive (actually it's the candida craving it more than you). But I hung in there. It was worth everything.

My depression lifted, my energy increased, I experienced some joy in my life again. My skin became soft and smooth (like a baby almost), my eyes sparkled, my hair colour became rich in colour again and much nicer and even became to get slightly curly at the bottom (which I only had as a child). My nails grew and became healthy looking pink and very white at the tops, much more white at the ends. Wheras before they barely grew and they never looked healthy.

BUT, evenso, the underlying problem of mercury still affected me in various ways and I still had problems. But what a help the diet was to me. I began also to eat more foods raw (salads especially) and that helped even further. I could still eat some fruit and milk then and non gluten grain.

Later I had amalgam removal. I got worse after the very last removal, probably because I swallowed the drilled out amalgam that the stupid assistant failed to suction out. So I was immediately poisoned by that. But I improved a bit after some chelation. However, much later I got worse again as the stored mercury that had been in me for years began to start dumping out of my organs etc. That was tough. I went through a lot. But did get on a good safe chelation regime and was able to more safetly get the mercury out of me and in time I was becoming a properly healthy person. I still had to stick to the diet mostly, but not as much, plus health continued improving as the years rolled on.

however, these days I have other problems, even worse than what I had then. So unfortunately those days are over. I have internal virus and infections and my immune system is almost completely stuffed from that. That happened in 2003.

So I'm chronically ill by other means, and the diet I need to be on now is far stricter. I can only consume proteins (eggs and meat), plus low carb vegetables (anything other than potatoes, corn, beans, peas etc), and organic acidophilus yoghurt, raw nuts (almonds/brazil) and raw seeds (pumpkin and sunflower). That is pretty much it. If I go off my diet, even remotely (even if I eat a bit of grain or a piece of fruit), I become even WORSE.

That's what viruses and infections can do because they put your immunity in dire straits. Mercury is also horrible, but at least mercury can be detoxed. These things are different.

So you will know what you can handle by trying the diet if you wish. Whether the ultra strict that I'm on now, or the less strict that I used to be on. Also proteins like eggs and meat and healthy fats like butter, lard, extra virgin olive oil, fish oil (mercury free) are very healing. Dr Hal Huggins recommends that a mercury toxic person consume those things, plus avoid milk and caffeine and wheat/gluten and sugar. He feels that milk somehow interferes with mercury detox as can caffeine apparently. I felt wheat/gluten and sugar were much worse personally.

So if you can handle eggs? I'd keep eating them, they are very healthy and healing. But I'd oust the bad stuff I have mentioned, because it'll just pretty much make you much much more toxic. I do not know what SAME supplements are? I can't comment.

Supplements that have helped me with these conditions have been antioxidants like vitamin C (powder), vitamin E, selenium, milk thistle, fish oil (mercury free) etc.

AT any rate, even with all the improved foods and supplements, at some point you would be wise to get the junk metals out of your mouth by a good reputable biologic dentist over a period of time. Even a little at a time, as you can handle it. However, I would encourage you to prepare your body first by the good diet and supplements, because the removal procedure can and does expose people to even more mercury during the removal.

A dentist here actually will not removal amalgams from his sick patients, until they are on a strict candida diet with proper supplement support. Otherwise he believes they can get worse. He monitors them and gets them to improve their existing health and then when they are ready, he will remove their amalgams.

I think this is a very wise way to do it.

Sorry for the lengthy post! But I think you've come to the right place and hope that whatever way you do this, you will be better off for it.

I don't think they'd be any doubt that the stuff in your mouth will somehow be affecting you, either contributing or causing the problems you are experiencing. Certainly, it's another thing your body should not have to put up with.

With 16 amalgams and all those symptoms (which all sound so familiar to mercury) I’d say 100pct for sure you have mercury trouble as your root cause. Congratulations on figuring it out, most people never will. Now you can educate yourself about mercury and cure yourself. It takes a couple of years, but the good news….. it is curable.

Don’t rush into anything just yet. buy and read “amalgam illness” by A.Cutler. This explains all. Essential reading. This tells you how to get the mercury safely out.

If you want to know why and how you got poisoned….check out the book “its all in your head” by hal huggins

I can’t chat long, ‘cause I’m feel a bit ropey but……… lichen planus….my Mother had that recently. I figured out a cure for her.

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/sh...&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

Read the whole thing for the full scoop, but if you scroll down you will find a post by me headed “Lichen Planus.” If you have any questions let me know.

Finding a doctor that knows about safely detoxing mercury is tricky….so educating yourself is 100pct key.

Welcome to the forum

Lisa, I'm praying the same prayer about my breastmilk. Yeah, my dentist just spouted the safety of amalgam and the poor quality of composites when i asked him about them. this was before I knew about Cerec. i had heard of diamondlite and asked him about that and he had never heard of that. I'm considering that if I get better after removal writing him a letter about it. He's a man with a lot of personal values that way; he just buys the ADA's stance hook-line-sinker.

Bex,

I'm sure there have been symptoms of this all my life. I've struggled with OCD for as long as I can remember. It has always been fairly mild and I didn't have a name for it until oddly enough about 10yrs ago -- when the tooth started hurting, and more dental work -- when it got to where I was doing some stereotypical checking and such so could recognize it. Chances are whatever genetic tendency I have towards OCD has been greatly enhanced by the Hg.

Wow, that's really strange about your brother and you and your different rxns to the breastmilk. I'm glad he's doing well today. Sorry you're not though <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />.

On the candida, is it all that uncommon to have it but not have outward symptoms like vaginal yeast infections or thrush during BFing, or oral thrush myself? I used to get horrid YIs, but haven't had one in years. Of course, I basically stopped having them once I dropped refined sugar.

I'm glad the gluten and sugar free diet helped you so much. I didn't notice a diffence. I haven't ever tried eliminating all simple sugars though.

Sunshine,

Thanks for posting! I've been reading your long detox thread and gaining so much hope from it. that's the part I fear.

I'm going to look into buying cutler's book soon. Thanks for the LP link, too!

Thanks all for your welcome messages; I really appreciate them. although Hg poisoning has crossed my mind before, it's finally setting off my alarm bells. why on earth, I didn't believe myself the first time I thought it years ago, I don't know -- I mean it's MERCURY, come on!

sorry if I missed something, y'all (yup, I'm from Texas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ). I have such a hard time concentrating these days, I'm having a hard time researching this. I jokingly say I don't have two brain cells to rub together anymore. DH can ask me to do him a favor and two minutes later I have forgotten about it. Yet, I continually obsess about my health and one thing or another -- to the point it feels like addiction. When I've mentioned this phenomenon to family, they just laugh and say it's part of growing old. Nope, not buying it.

I think I may have found a dentist. He's about 3hrs away, but that would be just fine with me. I looked up BDs and found about 5 within 3hrs of me. Most were cosmetic dentists, but this guy has a website where he talked about his office's philosophy on amalgam and explained in detail about his amalgam removal procedure, equipment, and even his air filtration. It sounds like I may like him!

Herewith safe removal protocol.

http://www.iaomt.org/testfoundation/amalgremove.htm

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/mercury_amalgam_removal.html

Under no circumstances must you compromise on removal. Amalgam removal 100pct needs to be done with protection.

I had just one removed without protection and it ruined my life.

Buying those books needs to be at the top of your to-do list. There are many dangers with mercury and in no way can you rely on anyone else except yourself, that includes all doctors and all dentists. Painful experience is talking here!

Try hard not to rush in. Educate first.

Good luck, happy reading and ask lots of questions

I can totally relate. It's been literally YEARS ago, but I remember catching something on the news about mercury coming from dental fillings. It always stuck in my mind. I remember thinking at the time...Oh my god, if it can come from dental fillings...I have a mouth FULL, and if anyone has that, I DO. Then I didn't really hear anymore about it, and I just let it go. I guess like most people, I figured if it was REALLY that serious, they would be telling everyone that they need to be taken out. OMG, how I look back and wish I had done something then, and how much different my life could be now. I just didn't HEAR anymore about it, and I think that was the problem. People need to be made AWARE. The best way I have found is to kind of "humor" people I guess, and don't come on strong. I have tried that, and have been laughed at and looked at like I'm psychotic. With people, if it's not GOSPEL, they don't want to believe it. I now just try to "gently" tell people that I am sick (if I actually have to tell somebody), then I tell them that mercury is bad for you, it's in your fillings and that some people don't get sick from it, but I did. I pretty much leave it at that, unless they want to know more. Do I believe that some people don't get sick? Absolutely NOT. That is all many people's brains could comprehend though. I believe everyone is sick that has them. Not everyone is sick the way I am, because it does effect different people in different ways, BUT many of them would never believe that strange rash that just came out, or that dry skin, vision problems etc could be caused by fillings. Honestly, I probably would have had a difficult time making sense of it, myself. The ADA has brainwashed everyone. I just wish everyone didn't think that we are crazy. There are some people, that probably want to run when I'm around. I feel like people think I'm some "evangalist" that's going to preach a bunch of crap to them. I wish people didn't feel that way. I'm just like everyone else....I just want to save someone's life. I always say if I can save just ONE, I will be happy.

I have/had a hard time researching things too, and my memory is NIL. I joke about it, but I am SERIOUS and people don't believe me. I do joke about it with my husband, and he has no fillings, but I do believe he's been exposed, too, either through me or a broken thermometer. We neither one can remember anything, and it's scary. I am too young to be this way. My grandparents all lived into their 90's and they were ALL sharper in the head at 90, than I am now. I can walk into a room and just stand there, because I have no clue what I was going to do. I put something "UP" so I will not lose it, and I can't remember when I put it UP at. My life is CHAOS, and it's not fair to my family. Everything is a mess. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I can't concentrate on one project at a time, I have to have multiple things going at one time (cleaning out the closet, sorting through old books, doings dishes, doing laundry, working on bills) and I go back and forth between all of them, never entirely EVER finishing one project, but half-doing all of them. I can't ever catch up with housework, I can't ever find those important papers that I need, so we all have to dump everything in the house looking for them, because there's no telling what I did with them. It is a waste of time, and a waste of my life. I pray that things will change when I start getting mine removed. Every little bit counts.

It also takes me several house of "thinking" about things that I have to do, and planning them out to where I can get them done. This is also a total waste of time, and I know it. I just can't go jump into something, without spelling everything out first.

Like right now, we just bought a sleepnumber bed from someone. My husband is bugging me to get it out of his truck. I have to clean our bedroom, rearrange it, find a place of everything that's not put away, then figure out where we're going to put the old mattress until someone can pick it up, and do all of this plus figure out what everybody is going to eat, and finish this post. He keeps harassing me, and standing here looking at me, and all the PRESSURE and stress just makes me want to cry and go hide somewhere. When everything gets to much, I want to go hide until it goes away.
Does that make sense to anyone? I never used to be this way.

Hi Mommy


I agree with that. Everyone that has amalgams is sick. Sure, some are sicker that others, but the sheer numbers of people that are on medications and are unwell is mind-boggling to me. Most people don’t even realise their health is screwed and just plod on through life getting worse and will NEVER find out why, nor will they get better. People just accept all the niggly aches and pains as normal natural part of life, part of getting old. Its not!

In my life/world I see sickness everywhere, every single person I know has health issues. I’m not saying they are all deathly sick but they all have health problems. Its only now I can read the symptoms that I am aware of this. Aware that sickness is not the natural state of the body.

I do like the quotes on yr signature Mommy. Very well said <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Thank you about the quotes. I found the first one, on a website of quotes. I thought it was perfect...as most people don't want to "believe" there is mercury, or open their eyes to see it. The second one, I wholeheartedly believe, and I saw someone use it on another website once, although with no memory (lol) I can't remember which one. I do not know who the author is, but I believe that statement so much.



You absolutely hit the nail on the head with that one. I have learned so much. I look at my parents, and I can see how their fillings are affecting them. I look at my kids, my husband and see that they all have problems with toxins and/or yeast. I think back to my ex, and now I am POSITIVE he has a yeast problem. Looking back I see the symptoms of things in all the people I have come in contact with. I know I can't help anyone else, until I help myself. I am not strong enough...but OMG, I just can't believe how sick everyone really is, and they don't even know it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I have had this talk with my husband, and as much as it sounds like some "conspiracy theory" or something...I really believe that the world may be in the shape it is right now, because of mercury use and exposure to other toxins. I truly think most problems right now with people stem from it. Everything has a "snowball" effect, if you think about it.

I was apalled awhile back to see on a talk show on a major network (don't remember which one), where they actually get a kick out of dropping and/or dumping HUNDREDS of large flourescent lightbulbs on a city street (I think was in New York City), and let them crash to the ground for fun, as onlookers stood there. WTF? Those are full of mercury. Those all hit the ground and think of the mercury released from them!!!! I just sat there stunned. I wish people would open their EYES and their MINDS and look at what's going on in our world. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

We seem to be travelling on parallel paths because our understanding of how the world works is very similar.

Unfortunately the more I dig the more rotten everything is. I have not found the bottom yet.

Unfort Mercury is just another toxin in our world. A big one for sure, but nevertheless just another toxin. Everywhere I look, everywhere I investigate, there are toxins and poisons in every nook and cranny.

I been investigating food and and and and it’s just shocking. Ditto medicine, ditto healthcare, ditto OTC drugs, ditto RX drugs, ditto mobile phones, ditto electric pylons etc etc etc

These are big big problems and the chances of them going away are minuscule.

My wife is pregnant and I have been investigating formula bottle feeding milk for babies. I truly wish I had not. What these companies have does is disgraceful and disgusting. I am awestruck at the poisons in baby formula milk. And how they market it….i really wish I had not investigated it. At the moment I’m in a state of shock about how to feed a baby.

Individually we can probably live with a few toxins…but collectively ……. I think its doubtful. There are just too many.

But I know what I have to do right now….thats focus on myself. I need to get better above all else.

Its not all doom and gloom, I have also been amazed and astounded at how incredible our bodies are. The things it does to keep us well is miraculous once you start getting into the nitty gritty of how things work and what they do……..i am very impressed I have lasted this long knowing what I know and knowing what I have done to my body in the past. (I am an ex-part animal!)