can not find any cautions about it in andys book , anyone had any bad experiences with it and at what dose ?

Mikey:

I use NAC, but not alone. It's part of a liver detox supplement I take called Adva Clear by Metagenics. I have had great experience in using it.

I started with one capsule at each meal, which contains 66 mgs of NAC, totaling 198 mgs/day. I worked my way up to 3 capsules per meal for a total of 594mgs/day. Here's a link to some NAC info: http://www.raysahelian.com/acetylcysteine.html.

I think you can take it by itself, however, I've not been able to find it in small amounts unless it's part of a supplement like Adva Clear. I found Adva Clear for $71.00 at www.luckyvitamins.com. They ship all Metagenics products free.

By the way thanks, I found Spectrum fish oil and GLA (borage oil) at my local health food store for more than 1/2 off the price I was paying for Metagenics brand. Haven't been able to find Adva Clear in another brand, bu still looking. I think Toxinout by Dr. Natura comes close though.

NAC gave me energy and began to really detox my liver which I needed badly. This and Dr. Naturas Colonix program is really working for me.

Gabriella

I'd be very very careful with it. It may work very well or you may have big issues on it.

I was on a candida forum a while back and NAC was brought up for people to use. Someone was very annoyed with the guy advocating it and told him that two people who were put on high doses of it, committed suicide (they were mercury toxic). Now how true this is? I really cannot say. But when mercury is mobilised, it can really cause horrific effects and sometimes suicidal urges can result. I've had it myself from taking certain supplements (though never tried NAC). So I can see how it could occur.

I think Sunshine P talk it too (either NAC or just cysteine) and had terrible symptoms from it which he took sometime to recover from.

NAC maybe really helpful or problematic. So if you do try it, go very slow and check for any concerning reactions.

When I first realised I had a mercury problem, and before I read AI, I
was advised to take cysteine. The conversation went something like
this: "Start chelating straight away, its safe even before all yr
amalgams are removed. Start the clean up now!"

That seriously screwed me up. It took two months to recover from
taking 3 capsules in 1 day.

Never again will I take that stuff. It really hurt me. all my sysmptoms flared up like crazy. at the time i was mercruy ignorant, so i had no idea why i suddenty got so ill.

I have a problem with all sulphur foods and cysteine made may sulphur problem even worse. If u ok with sulphur foods then it may be worth a try………….but………………I took 3 capsules in 1 day and it screwed me up for 2 months…………………

Quote from http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Autism-Mercury/message/32641

Re: Andy - Why will a NAC deficient person not be harmed by mercry movement?

Actually you have to use a LOT of them to move the mercury into your
organs. Mostly what happens is symptoms get worse by making the stuff
already there bounce around more rapidly.

There is a tradeoff between more mobilization and more antioxidant
protection, that is best in the normal range of these substances.

Andy

--- In [email]Autism-Mercury@y...[/email], [email]mwendt@n...[/email] wrote:
> Andy, Why will people low in NAC, methionine, etc... not be harmed
by
> supplementing with those substances, but those who are in the normal
> or high range run that risk? I understand if a person who is high
in
> these amino acids they run the risk of transporting the mercury in a
> worse location, but it seems that may also happen if a person is low
> in the substances as well. Thanks, Mike

----------------------------and another quote http://onibasu.com/archives/am/1997.html

I'm curious as to why you think Cysteine is very harmful?

Your body has a few hundred grams of cysteine running around in it. So what
happens when you eat one or two more? The cysteine you eat tries to grab
mercury from your body. More precisely, from the cysteine molecules that
are an integral part of your body. Unfortunately, since these endogenous
and exogenous cysteine molecules are evenly matched, the mercury is passed
back and forth in this tug of war, bounces madly around the body, and stays
in it due to the overwhelming numerical superiority of the endogenous
cysteines.

So taking exogenous cysteine increases the damage the mercury does and
accellerates the rate at which it concentrates in the most sensitive tissues.
It does not, however, clear the mercury out any faster than doing nothing.

Observations of the real patients of the physicians who advocate using
cysteine for detox indicates this is true - they experience increased
symptoms and usually get permanent neurological damage if they don't stop
taking chlorella/cysteine pretty quickly. Once they DO stop, their symptoms
subside quite a bit.

So while cysteine competes favorably in the competitive equilibrium with
seawater for mercury, it does not compete favorably in competitive
equilibrium with the human body. It is not a mercury detox agent and should
never be used as one.
My son was on
n-acetyl cysteine for almost a whole year! From what I've read, I thought
Cysteine helps detoxify harmful toxins, including heavy metals and also
acts as a precursor to glutathione which helps to detox the liver by binding
with harmful substances there.

This is partly correct. Certain toxins are removed from the body by being
conjugated with glutathione in the liver. Certain heavy metals (including
mercury) are conjugated to glutathione to get them out of the liver.

Eating cysteine does not accellerate mercury clearance significantly since it
doesn't move mercury TO the liver to be excreted. It just bounces the
mercury madly around wherever it happens to be (like the brain) causing
greatly increased damage.

For people who are low in glutathione/cysteine (about half of mercury toxic
people are, the other half are high) eating modest quantities of it does
help clear OTHER toxins out of their body. Large quantities don't speed this
up much.

Andy Cutler

thanks guys , I am going to start to work on the liver again ,I have been taking milk thistle for about 3 years now and do not notice any changes , have also done 4 liver cleanses and removed about 2000 various size gallstones ,have also done about 45 caster oil packs so far , I now need to work on the inner workings of the liver so it can detox better , I think that my liver not being able to detox properly is what caused the back up of mercury and other toxins that led me to this whole mess in the first place ,that all started after coming off anti depressants and other precription drugs including opiate based pain killers soon after that is when I noticed the mild symtoms and progessivly got worse over a 6 year period

I have found 600 mg capsules of nac at a retailer close by I will start out with about 1/4 of that every other day and see what happens and adjust as needed ,according to andy cutler nac can speed up phase 2 liver metabolism

Lots more upto date mercury chelating information

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/frequent-dose-chelation/files/Rooney2007.pdf

thanks sunshine.p : what would be another way to increase glutathione in the liver , does ala increase glutathione in the liver? i am taking that 3 day out of the week for chelation