well this is it I 'm at the 5 month post amalgam organ mercury dump , I have been feeling good for the last 2 months and was hoping that the worst was over ,but last week I started feeling like just before amalgam removal and have been detoxing all week , I am using no chelators as of yet, just alot of supplements . page 52 of amalgam illness said that around 2-4 months post amalgam mercury starts dumping from the organs and increases blood mercury levels for about 2-3 months ,I hope It doesn't last more than 2 months I would hate to feel like crap around the holidays again ,last year was bad enough ,any insight from the forum

You can start using chelators to begin picking up the mercury that is filling you back up again. Andy explains how to do this. You are safe at this stage to start using ALA, either with DMSA or alone every 3 hours around the clock.

You may want to just try DMSA alone for a while to see how you go. It is up to you. This dumping stage went on for about 2-3years with me because I failed to use a safe consistent chelating protocol. Instead I was all over the place and was often trying to recover from backfire effects from random detoxing. I did not need to put myself through that!

Had I done things better and more consistently, I imagine I would have sped everything up far more and in the process made life more tolerable with this protocol.

supplements may not do enough other than provide some support. Though I personally (at the time) found vitamin C, vitamin E, selenium, zinc and microhydrin to be the greatest help with detoxing and support. Chelation really was the only one that got a hold of this stuff properly and sped things up.

Horrible as it is, this is where true healing begins. Your body can go into a sort of "remission" after amalgam removal (though not for everybody) and you can "feel" like you're improved. But when the dumping stage starts, you feel repoisoned and sometimes even WORSE than you felt with the amalgams, because of the detoxing.

Mercury poisoning is horrible, but in a sense the body is trying to store it, so you may not notice the symptoms as much as you do when it's coming out of you in detox mode. It depends on the person. Some people get through this easier than others and some notice almost immediate improvements or even cures upon amalgam removal alone.

So, your dumping stage at the moment may not last as long as mine. I have severe retention toxicity and this goes for ANY toxins I'm exposed to. I hold onto them for AGES after exposure. Which is why my tissues tend to get puffy and I remain chronically ill long term.

But again, this dumping stage i believe is really the healing stage. I dont know what sets it off, and why the body suddenly decides its time to dump the storage, but perhaps it takes a while after amalgam removal for the body to adjust to no longer storing it, to now detoxing it....?

I 'm doing much better today the colonic helped and that the apple juice that I started drinking contains alot of vitamin c which I had read some where will mobilze mercury from the brain ,not sure if that may have caused the symtoms?

i am 16mths post removal and having symptoms i never had before, burning head, neck,arms and feet,pains in head, feel like im going into a coma, feeling like there is a band around my head,bad muscle twitches and air hunger. I used ALA last week, symptoms came on then.
Dawn.

I did not seem to experience this 4-6 month dump, but was on all kinds of supplements, and felt like I started dumping a month or two after, and it is still going on.

I am 14 months post amalgam, and have done 26 rounds of ALA. I did the last round 50 mg ALA only, and had some real rough days after. But I felt good, almost normal at end of round! It took about 3 days to have the symptoms go away, and now I almost feel like I want to stop this for a while. It's kinda scary, like "What if I am causing damage here?". I looked back at my records, and see I did ALA only one other weekend, but I did not have as bad a reaction after that time.

I think the ALA really stirs things up in the brain??? causing these symptoms. In the long run, maybe we need to do this to get the mercury out and be healed, but it is really hard to function when you are affected like that. I see there was a guy named Steve on here a year or two ago who cured himself doing a week on and week off of ALA only for months, maybe that is the way to go. Just tough it out, but I still want to know if this is safe to do.

Anyone else notice ALA brings major symptoms on after the round?

My other point is maybe it is better to just go natural, like Russ and Laura - they seemed to do better than people using ALA. I do know of one guy at work who had this mercury poisoning just like us back in the 80s, and he went natural, and after a year or two, he felt much better! And before he got his dental revision, he could hardly walk! He and a nurse who had this problem years ago were two of the people who helped convince me that this mercury toxicity is really true.

TW

what did russ and laura do?

Russ and Laura:

Would you like to share? I have read the story on Russ. But maybe you could give your input on what you really believe? This whole thing is a nightmare of biblical proportions. If it was a loved one, what would you tell them to do? You may not know any more than anyone of us knows, but you must have your opinion. What road would you travel?

We have all these conflicting methods out there. What really makes sense? I know I am better than I was. Had I not removed the amalgams and started chelation I shudder to think of where I might be now. For any of you who regret removing amalgams - don't! Your problems would be worse if you did not. The sooner the better - this is no joke.

The whole dentist industry needs major reengineering. How did our society ever start deciding to call these people Doctors? Strange. Not putting anyone down, there are great dentists out there who care, and are brilliant. We need these folks to come forth now with absolutely safe materials to do their work with.

In fact, think of this, instead of the garbage they sometimes put in, why not use materials that enhance health? Why release poisons when you could do better?

Anything you can conceive can be achieved.

TW

I have been doing the natural approch ,like you had mentioned that ala could cause problems for some , with my luck I would be one of those to have problems , that is why I am doing the natural approch ,one thing that I am focusing on Is the liver ,if there is any type of liver congestion then the toxins will have no place to exit and eventualy back up and cause more problems ,I been using castor oil packs for 6 weeks to decogest the liver for the next step which is a liver cleanse (hulda clark method) I finished my first cleanse today and removed about 300-400 gallstones ,I could not believe that they were blocking the bile ducts in my liver ,which can cause toxins to back-up ,I think keeping the toxin exit path ways open is a very important key to natural detox

i agree, ALA does stir things up but i have to go with it if i want to get better, i have 2 kids and need to work one day,its very hard being a parent when you are poisoned like this.
im doing another round starting today,il have to be brave.
Cheers dawn.

Similar to Dawn, I am 15 months post amalgam removal, and there is no doubt that I am better. I have lost a lot of symptoms like angina, totally shot female hormones, thyroid and adrenals are pretty much balanced. I hate to think how sick I would have been had I not removed my amalgams - my body had already ground to a halt.

I am doing DMSA at 12.5mg and I have a different round each time. Sometimes I feel good on round, and get horrid redistribution symptoms afterwards (hungover, yeast flare, irritability). Other times I get full-on symptoms on round (yeast, excessive salivation, metal taste, pounding heart, irritability, extreme fatigue) and feel good after the round. Why is each round so different?

The mercury mobilization symptoms seem to be getting more extreme - possibly as I get rid of more mercury, my body finds it possible to shed more during the DMSA rounds . If this is the case it is great, but it makes me feel that I am not making any progress at all, and when is it going to end?!! I feel as bad now as I did after amalgam removal, just not all the time, but still pretty frequently. I have been pretty much debilitated today (day 2 of DMSA round), despite usual thyroid dose / adrenal support / diet, so it must be the mercury. It is quite depressing to think that this could go on for years.

Dawn - those symptoms are low thyroid - the band around the head and air hunger. I have dropped my Armour dose to 1 grain and added in some T3. This is working really well for me and has taken away some other symptoms. My thinking is that mercury toxic people don't convert T4 to T3 properly, and there is too much T4 in Armour for us to benefit properly from it. Dropping the amount of T4 and increasing T3 helps this problem.

I haven't added in ALA yet - I am sure my body burden is too high. I am also waiting to get on with life - three young kids, and my own things I want to do. This illness has taken too long already.

PM me if you want to. Think we've got lots in common.

Nicola

hi imgeha : I think that chelating is kind of like peeling an onion ,each layer that you peel exposes the core of the onion till eventually there is no more layers to peel and you are cured

You see

This is where 95% of the people on this board are making the hugest mistake....... thinking they can take a few doses of ALA or whatever and think they feel much better in 3 days.

Think 50 mgs DMSA every 4 days for 1 year and 100mgs every 4 days for 1 year,, and then you will actually be cured without having major reactions that feel like hell. Your mind is playing tricks on you because your brainwashed into thinking there is always a magic pill to make you well, like asprin or something........

Go and get a few myers mineral push low dose once per week too

Perhaps I was not clear. My rounds usually consist of 25 mg dmsa, and 50 mg ALA every 3 hours for 3 days, starting 6 am on Friday, and going to 9 pm on Sunday (last 2 or 3 dmsa only to minimize distribution). That is about 22 doses. This is from Cutler's book - have you read it? No way do you want to do the one dose thing.

I have been doing this for months. Also, 3 days is just what it took the last time to clear redistribution symptoms. Usually it only takes a day or so. In no way did I ever feel this was anything but a long term project. I heard one estimate that if you had your mercury fillings for say 30 years, it could take as much as 30 months to effect a cure.

I think most on this board are aware of Cutler's methods - it is designed to keep a constant level of chelators in your system to prevent redistribution. Read his book, it really is a great thing to read - I found it fascinating.

TW

I wholeheartedly agree with this approach....I think that this type of chelation deserves some consideration, my ND and the people he has studied with have had some great successes by chelating with DMSA every third day' it may be slow, but it is much less stress on the adrenal and immune system and other vital organs too.

As individuals we deserve special consideration and may respond to different types of treatment....Cutler may not have all the answers.

Sandi
xoxo

Hi Sandi:

I am glad to hear this, and I would like to know if there are others who have done well on this method. I am not for any one approach over another. Just whatever works.

Thinking about this method, the only thing is seems to me is that it might take you forever to remove even just a bit of mercury. But if it really is less adrenal stress, then maybe it is a good idea. I don't have a vested interest in any certain approach, what really upset me when I started this journey was all these conflicting opinions, and feeling all alone in trying to make a decision on what to do. I am very appreciative for the input this forum gives.

I hope for the best for all of us suffering this. Please keep us informed how you do with this method - I will consider it some more.

TW