Hello

Has anyone used this product - HMD
http://www.detoxmetals.com/index.php?categoryID=2&productID=1


When I read about a product and they say you might get a cleansing reaction, and if so, to lower the dosage, this tells me it is doing something. I dont know if it is just toxins, or also heavy metals like mercury.....?

This is something from the founder of hmd:

Here is some interesting information below. It shows that there are layers. It might look like a lot is out and the urine analysis gets lower readings but then later it will come out of the bones and tissues. DMSA is mostly for mercury along with some lead, arsenic and possibly others but not studies that I have seen prove it. Whereas the HMD is proven for all the heavy metals. Being as these toxic metals are heavier they are more difficult to pull out so minerals will come first with the chemicals usually.
Best of health,
Dr. Mark

-----we now have scientific validation that everything we thought we knew about heavy metals, and how to diagnose and treat these problems, was incomplete. She has patients where, according to the old rules, low metal levels in the urine after a provocative test should have indicated that further heavy metal detoxification for that patient would have been a serious waste of time and money. She has found that negative urine-provoked tests for heavy metals can sometimes mean nothing. She has demonstrated that heavy metal detoxification can remove huge quantities of toxic metals from children who had received prior aggressive chelation and were still not showing good clinical benefits. These results came even after courses of DMSA or DMPS, frequently given by injection, had only marginal effects.

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So, I am very sensitive and had trouble with DMSA, especially with my good minerals extremely low........ I have tried natural cellular defence - NCD and got a cleanse reaction after 1 month (so if try again should do so less dose), HMD sounds good(www.detoxmetals.com), Metal Free (www.metalfree.com) sounds very good and I know people who have used this - same they got a reaction when used to much.......

(ALA sounds good at the later end of the cleanse)

WHAT THIS TELLS ME IS THAT "EVERYTHING" WORKS !!!! I guess you have to just stick with it and dont quit, and take something to cleanse / support liver.

So which one to take, which one is best......need to sleep on it..........

If the natural remedies work just as good as DMSA, shouldnt a person take a natural remedy, at least at the beginning stages until you start to feel better. Will have to give yourself 1-2 years......its a long time, get that into your head before starting anything, but you will be healed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> [color:"blue"] [/color] [color:"black"] [/color]

My dentist actually gave me some of this the other day. The recommended dose on the jar read 50 drops x3 daily. I started at 25 and to be honest i couldnt even think straight. I was living in hell basically. I couldnt do anything properly. IMO that 50 drops x3 daily is insane. Ive read other remedies that involve tinctures mentioning x2 drops a day. So far for me it hasnt work. If it mobilised the mercury i never want to go through that again as i was complete and utter mess. I will try it again when my brain has recovered but on a far lower dose. Where abouts are you in the USA or UK?

You have to go with what works for you. I tried some prepackaged sets, I also tried cilantro and chlorella, both of them made things intolerable for me. Now I'm on DMSA and ALA and feel good while detoxing. I do have some minor sides, but overall I feel better. Some people can't tolerate the DMSA and ALA, but do well on cilantro and chlorella.

So long as its proven, stick with what works best for you.

Never used HMD, currently use a DMSA formula.

However, prior to finding a DR, I used cilantro with chlorella (pretty much alone, no other chelators) and I cannot really say it helped me much, though I can't say it made me worse either, it may have helped some, but not much. I was very poisoned so it's hard to say really. My Dr chelated me via IV, the first DMPS (for the blood tests) gave me my first certain little bit of relief, follwing with more IV DTA and DMPS, and when the oral DMSA was added for at home use in between DR appts, I really began to make swift progress. I still use cilantro and chlorella, almost daily in small quantities, but I also follow it with the DMSA formula now to really help bind the metals. With me, cilantro alone without a strong binder such as DMSA, is trouble. The chlorella helps but doesn't compare to the DMSA for me.

Fresh raw garlic added to that routine is good for me too btw. I eat some garlic loaded food during the day. I read somewhere a while back something about garlic having the ability to make the mercury more water soluble. If I go a few days without any garlic I start feeling lousy. The cilantro is great, garlic mobilizes things a bit differently, maybe gets things in places the cilantro or DMSA cannot, not sure, just know it works well all together.

Real well, I feel great! Though that banana bread loaded with flaxmeal I made yesterday helped whole bunches too, I was so hungry and healthy snacks are so difficult to find. Need to fatten myself up a bit after being so sick... heh. I used coconut oil with a tad of butter in place of the shortening to help boost my fatty acids in a healthy way too. Subsituted the sugar with xylitol. I ate the whole thing almost... need to make more of that. yummy.