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There is no evidence that this recovery was caused by the mercury in fillings. Statistical evidence from the millions of people who have had mercury fillings suggests that even if this was the cause of Mary Stephenson's psychiatric problems then she is a very rare case. Yet your programme will have made thousands of viewers worry about their fillings, and led many to believe that they are in danger and should even consider the painful, costly and completely unnecessary replacement of perfectly safe fillings.
Richard Ellis, Micheldever, Hants, UK

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Congratulations on sending the stupidest post on here yet. Mercury is a potent neurotoxin, is attracted to fatty tissue, and is inserted into the oral cavity very close to the brain. It is a toxin with different destructive cellular effects. Are you saying that mercury cannot cause mental problems after all that? The woman you refer to, Mary Stephenson, had been in psychiatric hospitals for years receiving all kinds of drugs and ECT. It was only after she got her amalgams removed and a long period of detox that she started to recover from depression. As for her being a "very rare case". Where is your evidence to back that up? Do you really believe that most people with severe suicidal depression are able to suspect that the toxic bombs in their mouths are causing all their agony? I suggest that you do a bit of hard research before posting such mindless comments. The fact that Mary Stephenson recovered from suicidal depression due to mercury detox, tells us that she isn't a "rare case", but that she is a drop in the ocean because so many people like her don't even know that dental toxins are causing their terrible suffering.

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No, most people's problems are not self inflicted. A healthy person does not consider his/her health, in fact, they take it for granted. Sick people are generally are unable to think of much else, as they are simply "unwell" and afflicted.

A toxic person is even worse. They are not just ill, but are unable to control much of their own feelings/thoughts and can end up forcing themselves to appear "ok", when inside they are almost screaming. I find them the bravest people of the lot, looking "ok" (abeit a bit pale), but in agony on the inside.

Whether we are wasting our money or not, we are determined to improve or live a life that most of us have been horribly denied or at least it has been interferred with greatly. To see the motivation on here, even by those close to suicide is incredible. That is more positive, than a healthy person whingeing because they had a rather "boring weekend".

Wasting money or not, the want and need to improve to get on with life is the ultimate goal of all who are here. Seeking answers and trying to give answers also.

Self inflicted? That is a terrible insult to all those who are sick, but cannot find answers. Because those answers might not be obvious, or the tests may not show clear answers, does not make anybody's illness here less real than someone with cancer or diabetes!

And also, the so-called "mental diseases", like depression, OCD, all sorts of stuff, so often actually is caused by physical illness. If the brain gets any of those chemicals messed up/distorted, the person will behave, feel and think likewise. The brain is just another organ. But when the signals in that gets screwed around, the suffering outdoes just about anything.

Then the poor person is put down as being simply mentally ill and put on antidepressants and sent on their way, or put into an institution. Their apparent bizzare behaviours, or fearful thoughts, or odd thinking, never once is considered to have a toxic answer. How is it, some have had alleviation or even cures from candida/mercury or other toxic treatment? even without antidepressants? Others go on suffering, perhaps do not find the answers at all. some commit suicide.

They are the ones who are to my mind in most need of treatment for their health, yet are overlooked. Nobody can understand the aguish of a toxic body and brain until they have been there.

So no, it is not self inflicted. For those that think it is? simply have not experienced toxicity of this nature.

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well said Chris, you have to be there to believe it. I think youve said it all for us.

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Well, Richard, I had my metal fillings replaced - because I suspected my health problems were due in large part to mercury content in my fillings. I didnt learn this from any scare tactic report- but deduced this on my own after reading about what low grade mercury toxicity symptoms are.

My filling replacements were not costly but very affordable. I paid them out of my own pocket as dental insurance will only cover for metal amalgam fillings. I had mine replaced two at a time from Spring to Fall and I didnt go to a holistic dentist, but a regular one who uses a really good composite/porcelain filing.

I also researched proper protocol needed by myself and the dentist while removing my old fillings- and though my dentist thought I was a nut, he was gracious enough to cooperate.

My gums have improved greatly, I no longer taste metal in my mouth when eating acidic fruits or abrasiveness during teeth cleanings, etc., and I no longer experience dizzy spells or brain fog.

What I noticed lately is that I used to have to keep repeating a phone number in my head or I'd forget it by the time I dialed it. Now I can read a phone number in the phone book and my short term memory retains it.

I think you should do more research into silver amalgam filling side effects before jumping to any conclusions that it is all hype.
. I reccomend you read Dr. Hal Huggins book, "I't's All in Your Head."

I read this AFTER I decided to have my fillings replaced-- and it benefitted me in how to detox and what supplementation I needed to concentrate on after all fillings were replaced.


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Pretty much everyone has at least 1 amalgam filling or one in ever 2 people. If they were that bad wouldnt everyone be suffering? Everyone would have problems as all my mates have fillings?
I think its only if your allergic to metal it has a bad affect and what causes the allergy?

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Not necessarily, there are dentists that have had to leave their profession due to becoming so sensitive and toxic with mercury that they can no longer even enter a dental office without becoming ill.

No everybody has a problem and some people's body's for reasons I don't understand appear to cope better with mercury than others. Most people have fillings, but you might also notice, most people aren't really radiantly healthy either, they maybe "ok", but most people I know of are average at best and even then can have issues from their amalgams, but manage them and are able to get on with life.

other people can get a full blown toxicity illness from them, perhaps due to not having ability to excrete it. mercury is accumulative and in those like myself who retain it, rather than eliminate, the result can be a disaster.

Also I am sensitive it too, but I believe that it just goes hand in hand, you're dealing with one of th emost toxic substances known to man, so it is hardly surprising and the most foolish place to put it, in the mouth.

It's amazing what some people can endure over the years, but put enough load on the body and once it succumbs? That person may struggle from that point on and not be able to overcome the mercury as they once were. problem with mercury is, the body can fight against it and try and cope daily, seem to be ok, then wham, a person can get some other illness and suddenly end up with mercury poisoning, simply because their system has buckled under other strains and is unable to fight against the mercury.

There are many reasons why people get sick and others seem to "get away with it". Genetics, immune system, other health challenges, etc.

An example of this is, my whole family (apart from my father) have amalgams. They all have normal lives, though I could not say they are all radiantly healthy, they're normal. Me? It did not work out that way and I wish I knew why.

I was poisoned by them and showed obvious signs of mercury poisoning not long after I had braces put on my teeth. Interestingly, braces or other metals, can worsen mercury toxicity by the combination of metal in the mouth and increase the uptake of mercury. That was the last straw for me and sent me into mercury toxicity and even though the braces were removed, I did not come right from then on. Though other people had braces, I was one who got extremely ill. Yes I happen to have metal allergy, but there is more to it than that. I got toxic also and showed signs of it by having tremors, uncontrollable salivation fits, cold body temperature and shivering, blue nails, metal taste in the mouth, smelling of metal, crying excessively for no reason, very typical toxic symptoms from mercury. So if it was just "allergy", I would not have gotten direct toxic symptoms at the sametime. Also, upon any exposure to mercury, I end up ill and it takes me many months to finally get more of it back out of my system. IT is a nightmare for me and worse when people decide because they have them and are "ok", then you must be making it up or exaggerating.

I've heard of people coping for years with their amalgams, and then getting some other illness that knocks their immune system and ending up mercury toxic after that.

It can happen to anybody for many reasons.

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Bex I have a few comments about what you have written in the above post....I am going to type them in all caps...so please don't be offended. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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An example of this is, my whole family (apart from my father) have amalgams. They all have normal lives, though I could not say they are all radiantly healthy, they're normal. Me? It did not work out that way and I wish I knew why.

DO YOU THINK THAT MAYBE YOU INHERITED THE POOR EXCRETOR GENE FROM YOUR DAD AND THE REST OF YOUR SIBLINGS WHO ARE NOT ILL, YET COULD HAVE THE GOOD EXCRETOR GENE FROM YOUR MOM?

I was poisoned by them and showed obvious signs of mercury poisoning not long after I had braces put on my teeth. Interestingly, braces or other metals, can worsen mercury toxicity by the combination of metal in the mouth and increase the uptake of mercury. That was the last straw for me and sent me into mercury toxicity and even though the braces were removed, I did not come right from then on.

YOU PROBABLY HAD A GALVANIC REACTION FROM THE BRACES AND THE AMALGAMS AND THAT PUT YOUR HM BURDEN OVER THE TOP.

Though other people had braces, I was one who got extremely ill. Yes I happen to have metal allergy, but there is more to it than that. I got toxic also and showed signs of it by having tremors, uncontrollable salivation fits, cold body temperature and shivering, blue nails, metal taste in the mouth, smelling of metal, crying excessively for no reason, very typical toxic symptoms from mercury. So if it was just "allergy", I would not have gotten direct toxic symptoms at the sametime. Also, upon any exposure to mercury, I end up ill and it takes me many months to finally get more of it back out of my system. IT is a nightmare for me and worse when people decide because they have them and are "ok", then you must be making it up or exaggerating.

DON'T YOU HATE THAT, I WONDER WHAT EVERYONE THINKS NOW THAT I HAVE CANCER, THEY PROBABLY ARE SAYING THATI BROUGHT IT ON MYSELF FROM WORRYING AND STRESS AND ALTERNATE SUPPLEMENTS

I've heard of people coping for years with their amalgams, and then getting some other illness that knocks their immune system and ending up mercury toxic after that.

MERCURY IS A HUGE IMMUNE STRESSOR, MAKES US MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CANCER AND OTHER DISEASES...I AM SURE THAT IS WHAT CAUSED MINE AND THE BACTERIA FROM THE ROOT CANALS FED THE CANCER BIG TIME. AND OF COURSE MY LIFELONG BATTLE WITH CONSTIPATION CAUSED BY MERCURY MADE MY BODY TOXIC AND RUN DOWN TOO.

It can happen to anybody for many reasons.
YES SAD, BUT TRUE.....

SANDI
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HI Sandi, thanks for your very helpful comments. I would say you'd be correct in them all, but the gene one, as I got tested and apparently I am "ok" in that area. Which makes no sense as one doctor said I was one of the worst cases of mercury retention he'd seen in all his career and he had treated over 600 patients with mercury.

So maybe there is something else in that area that they're missing on some people that causes them to retain toxins.

I think too that braces was the limit for me. I would say I was already ill but didn't realise it as much and it only took one more knock to send me into full on mercury toxicity.

The whole thing is tragic when you consider none of it need be necessary. It's like so many diseases and how some people are almost unaffected and others die left right and centre. You can never predict how one person's body is going to react, but putting mercury in fillings? That is a no brainer! Being a potent neurotoxin and second only to plutonium in toxicity and vaporing so easily, you'd think that maybe, just maybe...it might not be wise to put inside a human beings mouth.

Thanks again Sandi for your observations! It is awful what these things can lead to and you know that more than most of us on here!!

Best wishes and take care

Bex.

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Some peoples genes are such that they can't efficiently excrete heavy metals. Thus, given enough time and enough fillings, they will get poisoned. Other people don't have this problem and probably will never really show signs of toxicity.

The real sad thing is its now 2007, and alternative materials for dental fillings have been available for some 25 years and some dentists still use amalgam and the ADA still argues its safe. Whats the point of that? Mercury is toxic no matter what, and there are better alternatives. It should be banned entirely in any form. There is no need for any health products or consumer products to contain mercury.

How does this statement sound:

"Hi there sir, we are going to put some lead in your body today." or how about "Hold still a sec so we can get this uranium inserted". You would have to be nuts to comply with such treatment. Well mercury is the same thing, any person in their right mind who says its not really doesn't get it.

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Anxiousteen...words fail me!

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I agree Lyn, but this is the mindset of people who wish to ignore the many agonies that have been caused by mercury in amalgams. One only has to read the letters to the ADA on the internet and see the anger at those who have suffered horrifically, some have been lucky enough to improve or recover from amalgam removal and long painful detox.

Sadly some maybe permanently damaged. There is so much evidence now for it, that one would have to deliberately ignore it. This is why some places have banned mercury completely (Sweden I think is one such country). In some areas by law, they require a warning sign to be put up regarding amalgam mercury, so people that go and get it, will be informed beforehand of some of the dangers. Though they will not reveal ALL dangers.

Many people are ill and quiet, they are out there in great numbers, like the ones i meet on here, but nobody really gets to see them and they do not go out and about. Typically mercury toxicity leads to isolation and withdrawal from social activities. One of the sad but typical symptoms.


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If anyone should know, this guy should know.....

Hal Huggins :

"It seems to me, after counseling over 1000 suicidal patients, that the natural reaction of mercury in the brain is the release of suicidal thoughts. You are not crazy. Let me repeat, you are not crazy. Suicidal thoughts are the natural reaction of the toxic exposed brain. It is not you. I know you. I have seen so many you-s who are mercury toxic that I know who you are. And I know what you are not. You are not crazy.

I used to play a game. Even when the questionnaires were blank in the area of emotional disturbances, there were certain chemistries that gave it away. When I would notice these chemistry combinations, I would start moving papers around. I would puzzle over figures on one page, then go to another page, then use one of the medical terms I learned in my internship. "Hummmm" I would say. That's the medical term I learned. "You know, you have the same chemical patterns I have seen recently in people who have UNEXPLAINED suicidal thoughts." Once in a while people would break down and cry instantly. They had lived in isolation, many due to their religions that preached that you don't even think about such a thing, much less talk about it, or God's gonna gitcha. Satan will have your soul. Maybe Satan already has your soul. In this case I equate Mercury to Satan. What else can take a perfectly happy, loving soul and convert it to a frightened internal nightmare over which you have no control?

Too strong? Not if you ask my patients who experienced living in their own private hell, then were able to throw off the suicidal thoughts and live loving lives without constant fear that they might take their own lives.

What have we noticed that stimulates these thoughts? First there is the negatively charged amalgam filling in the mouth. Almost all of the new "state of the art" high copper amalgams produce negative charge. In the presence of a negative electrical environment, mercury leaching out of the fillings is converted momentarily into the deadly methyl mercury. Methyl mercury can cross the blood brain barrier, the placental barrier, in fact, there is no barrier to methyl mercury. It is about 100 fold more neurotoxic than the elemental mercury given off from the filling initially."

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Thanks for sharing that excerpt Holocaust, I have to get that book, which one is it from please. I have to show my family cause I have one sister who is totally off the deep end and no one believes me, the "mercury maven".....they all think I am crazy too, and who knows, maybe they are right. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Sandi
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It's an excerpt i can relate to well, and it's taken from the information section on his website http://www.hugginsappliedhealing.com/

His books are "It's All In Your Head" and "Uninformed Consent".


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Its so frustrating, My dad went to the local dentist and asked about mercury and they said they have done thorough tests and through survey its completely safe. And they told my dad that mercury free people are money grabbers.

THIS FRUSTRATED ME SO MUCH. My parents dont believe about the possibilities. I tell them why are they banned in other countries and they use them because they are cheaper and easier to use.

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your dad should ask them why is it then that when they remove them they store them as toxic waste and ship them to third world countries and dump them in land filed sites. Why dentists also have the highest brain tumour and suicide rate.

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The hair mineral analysis paterns from Andy Cutler are proof we have this illness.

-Peoples organs can hold on to the mercury drastically longer than the average.
-Studies have shown neurological problems associated with the lower levels of mercury the main stream medicine doesn't consider harmful.
-Chewing gum and hot liquids can increase the amount of mercury excreted from the fillings by up to 500%!!!!!!!!


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