Here is another link. For those who have PDF, you should be able to read this link - http://www.phpure.com/nutrition_pro...f#search="heliomolar%20safest"

For those who don't, here it is again cached -
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache...p;amp;gl=nz&ct=clnk&cd=5

For those who don't, hope this one works.

I loved this article, thanks for sharing this Bex. I hope to find out a lot more about the CEREC's from my dentist appointment on the 16th. I'll make sure to share whatever I learn from him.

Jason

HI jason, you're welcome. It's hard because you see the enormous contradictions and somehow us people are supposed to work through it all and know what to do or put in our mouths. I'm at my wit's end personally. Hope you find out more about cerec and that it will work out for you. I wish the stuff was cheaper though.

Why do they charge around 1000 dollars for a tooth? It's like the rolls royce of restorations.....I think I'm going to have to settle for the more "suzuki" type of restoration <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I agree Bex, it seems like there are contradictions all over the place about these materials. I sort of think that we as a group are in a trial-and-error period right now, as we really won't know the consequences of our choices for many years down the road, even if we don't acutely 'react' to whatever we put in today. Unless we are chemists with access to precise measuring tools, we really are not able to truly measure for ourselves what is happening with any of these materials--we are kind of forced to take someone else's word for it. It seems like the best we can really do is try to figure out who is telling the truth, and who is repeating someone else's mantra for the sake of profit... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Jason

It seems that, all-in-all, there is no perfect dental filling material. The best policy is to try to avoid cavities to begin with.

I would think, for the sake of your children, that you would want to question the need for fillings when a dentist says a cavity is present. The method they use to determine that a cavity is present is to check the enamel to see if it's soft. They use a pointed stainless steel poker for this. When they poke the enamel, if it resists pulling out from the enamel, they will normally tell you that you need a filling.

I personally remember them doing this when I was a teen.

I disagree with this method of determining if a filling is needed. I personally believe that this method errs horribly on the side of placing unnecessary fillings, which, as we've all learned, is truly dangerous, at least in many cases. I also know of several people now who have been told their child needed a filling. They decided to get a second opinion and that dentist said their child did not need a filling.

Let the buyer beware.

Why do so many people have fillings in the back but not in the front where they would show? Maybe this is because dentists know that most people will avoid filling their front teeth due to aesthetic concerns.As time passes and the tooth that "needed" a filling does not hurt the patient may start questioning whether she needed any of the work the dentist said was needed. Througout the years I have had dentists tell me I needed fillings in front teeth and I never did them .None of these teeth has any problem . Maybe the best plan is not to fill any tooth that does'nt hurt. Also ,go to a second dentist without telling them what the first dentist said and see what they reccommend.

I guess it's because the molar teeth are dense and made for chewing and can easily get cavities. The other teeth are just there for tearing or biting, but they don't seem to have the area for the cavities as such.

But yeah, it's a good idea to make sure of a dentist by more than one opinion and also by reputation. I know my Mum and many others like her had their teeth filled, and often when there were not cavities so that this would "avoid" future cavities. So basically they packed the mouth full of mercury amalgam regardless of wehther it needed to or not.

Lucky were the ones that ended up with false teeth (like my father). My mum kept her teeth and she is CONSTNATLY ailing from this or that problem. Dad is healthier, stronger and much older than she is. Coincidence? I don't know. But she is weaker, paler, sicker, and what's wosre is, she got gold put in as well, so things got even worse for her.

She's got many ailments, yet eats pretty healthy. Dad s doing fine, feels good all the time, yet eats pretty much what he wants. (she's 60, he's 74).

I've seen this quite often. I guess it depends on ones overall toxic burden, sensitivity etc. but I'd prefer false teeth, rather than what she has.

You know what Bex, I wanted dentures for just this reason, my grandparents and so many other people I know with dentures lived well and ate everything and lived to be almost a hundred. And then I look at so many others that have kept their own teeth and they are sickly all their lives and dying in their 50's and 60's from cancer or whatever...and some even earlier than that...just a damn bloody shame!!!

Sandi
xoxo

I know what you mean Sandi. I have actually contemplated getting my teeth pulled lately instead of having them crowned and filled again (although in the end I'm sure I will be too scared to actually go through with getting them pulled). I am so frustrated by the conflicting information out there, that I am beginning to despair of even going through with materials testing anymore. It is another $300.00 expense that I really can't afford, and it seems that almost half the time it doesn't even catch all of the reactions that people have to a certain material anyway. $300.00 to only be 60% certain of a material? I might as well just take my chances and save my money, and just go for whatever materials have worked for the most other people, or alternatively, whatever is available in my area.

I think Russ really nailed it in his post--the best thing is to start at the beginning and avoid cavities in the first place. I'm sure kicking myself now for my poor dietary and dental choices early on in life. I can't fully fix what has already been done in my life, but hopefully I can at least spare my son of the same fate later on.

Jason