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I am kind of a newbie to this forum, and was wondering if some more seasoned members would be willing to share their experiences with getting their replacement dental restoration materials? I need to get new crowns and fillings soon, and am looking for some materials with the best bio-compatibility possible. I have sifted through the first 10 pages or so of posts on the forum trying to get a feel for what has worked best so far for those that have already gone through this process. It seems that a few people on the forum have drilled out their mercury-laden amalgams, only to have unfortunately replaced them with seemingly bio-incompatible dental materials that caused them a whole set of different problems later on.

To this point, it seems as though the top restorative materials contenders on the forum that I have found so far appear to be the Diamond series (Diamond Crown, Diamond Lite, etc.), although I have also noticed a couple of posters that said they might have had problems with these materials. I have also noticed that the CEREC materials seem to hold some promise as a possibility, although while browsing the forum yesterday I found one poster from a year ago who said that her test showed that she was not compatible with certain CEREC materials (Janey--11/08/05 under post named ‘Some info on cerec…’). However, I am still actually leaning toward trying these out if a compatibility test shows that they should work for me. There is just something about hard ceramic materials where it seems logical to me that they would not leech their materials much. After all, these kinds of materials are the ones used in pools and fountains, and have stood up in some cases to decades of being covered by water and harsh chemicals like chlorine. I’m not dogmatic about this though, and would easily change my opinion if I can get enough evidence one way or another to support another solution. In any case, I figure that if the CEREC’s work for me that this might offer an alternative possibility for a few that do not test well for some of the other successful products such as the Diamond series—on the other hand, if they don’t work for me then I figure that I can at least help to warn people on the forum of any bad experience with them.

Some questions that I was hoping that people could answer might include some of the following items below. I know that this is a lot of questions--I'm not necessarily looking for answers to each question in every post, but am just trying to glean whatever information that I can. Thanks in advance for any information that you share—all of you have been such an awesome resource already!

1. What dental materials have been placed in your mouth?
2. How long have these materials been in your mouth?
3. Which dentist placed these materials, and were you satisfied with his/her work done? Did they follow a particular protocol, such as the Huggins protocol?
4. How much did this dentist charge for their procedures?
5. What kinds of precautions did the dentist use to minimize mercury vapor exposure during amalgam removal?
6. What kinds of precautions did you as the patient use to minimize your mercury exposure during amalgam removal?
7. If the dentist was good, where is this dentist located, so that others on the forum might use their services in the future?
8. Did you use testing of any sort to determine beforehand if these dental materials would be safe for you?
9. Did the test(s) miss anything regarding an allergic reaction that you might have had later?
10. Did you follow a specific order in the removal of your amalgams or crowns?
11. Have you chelated since having your dental materials replaced?
12. What kinds of chelation have you used? What dosages did you take, and how often?
13. Has the chelation been successful so far? What kinds of symptoms have decreased/increased since starting chelation?
14. Did you make any 'mistakes' during your chelation process that you wish you would have done differently in hindsight?
15. What kinds of supplements have you used during chelation? Have they helped reduce your symptoms?
16. Do you have any other possible health issues that do not seem to be related to your dental materials (previous or present)?
17. If you could do the whole process all over again from the beginning, would there be anything that you would do differently the next time around?

Thanks so much! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Jason

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There are a lot of questions there. If it helps, I have written my story that answers a lot of these:

http://herballure.com/mms

Also, I am collection stories from other people (anyone is free to submit their story) here and it may answer some of your questions as well:

http://mercurytalk.com


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Hi Russ,

Thank you for your reply. I actually read your story almost a year ago on another website, and this is actually what really got me interested in intensely studying about mercury poisoning--although I admit that I put it on the back burner for a while until a few weeks ago. You have been a huge inspiration to us on this forum. We may never know the full impact that your efforts have made until we get to heaven, but I want to tell you personally that you have given me hope for the first time in actually solving my health problems--mostly related to constant sinus/nasal congestion and (more recently) brain fog. Thank you for sharing your time, talents and wisdom with all of us, it makes a HUGE difference! I probably would not have even considered trying to have my amalgams and crowns removed if it hadn't been for you and the others on this forum. My wife is an RN, and has been trying to scare me out of doing this since the time that I decided I was going to go through with it. At the root of it all, I actually think this is mostly a spiritual battle against Satan, as he would like to have as many people as possible in a total brain fog, so that they are easier to control and manipulate, and are more suggestive to his New World Order plans.

Your story did help a lot (and I read the others too--thank you for posting those), and I will be using your experience as a baseline in getting my amalgams removed. I have located a biologic dentist that uses the Huggins protocol for removing amalgams, and also want to have sufficient Algin, chlorella, and activated charcoal on hand for the day of my removal. Luckily this dentist is only nine blocks from my house, so I will be able to come home quickly and shower and change clothes afterwards as well. I also agree with your posts that it will probably be better for me to go slowly with the post-removal detox, and treat it more like a marathon than a sprint.

What I am hoping to accomplish with this thread, is to get a collection of data in one place from people that have already been through all of this. It seems like so many people are different, and even if they try the same things they sometimes have different experiences with them. I figure that if we can condense lots of data about the whole process from beginning to end in one place, it will help the new people like myself in making better informed decisions, and will also help us as a group to draw better conclusions about what normally works and what doesn't work based upon specific details from a larger and larger sample of people. I believe that most scientific experiments usually attempt to draw from the largest sample possible, because it helps to minimize errors and deviations in the conclusions that are drawn from the data. I will also keep a journal of my experiences as I go through this process, and will be happy to share my story once I am finished with my amalgam removal (which I hope to have done by June of next year if I can save enough money for it by then).

I think that I will be having my crowns replaced first (I currently have 'gold' crowns), as this was the original source of my problems ten years ago, and it should be covered at least partially by my insurance. I am just not sure yet what materials to use in replacing my crowns yet. I really like the Diamond materials that you have mentioned, but I will not know if these are even available to me until I have my first appointment with my insurance-based dentist on Oct. 16th. Bex has mentioned the CEREC materials, and seems to think that those may be a good alternative if the Diamond products aren't available, so I am exploring that possiblility for now. I have to admit that I like the idea of ceramics, since they are so hard, and it seems like they would not be prone to leeching materials (but who really knows?).

I found this particular insurance-based dentist sort of by accident by going to one of the CEREC sites, and doing a search in my area for dentists specializing in this procedure. I then found out that this dentist is married to the biologic dentist that is nine blocks from my house. I was hoping that if the CEREC materials appear to be good (and bio-compatible) that I could use these both as crowns and fillings (so I can stick with one material overall), and may somehow be able to do all of this as cheaply as possible with my insurance as well. I have seen the concerns in previous posts about aluminum in ceramic materials, so I am hoping that I might be bio-compatible with the zirconium-based CEREC's, and I can use these instead. Since I have noticed that not everyone is bio-compatible with the Diamond series products, I was also hoping that the CEREC's might have the added benefit of providing an alternative restoration material for those on the forum that have tried other materials and have found themselves allergic to them. I guess I’ll have to see where things go from here. Hopefully I will not be making a big mistake with my choices—but I guess at least if I am, I will be able to warn others from making a similar mistake if I happen to be unlucky. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

In closing, I just want to say thanks again Russ for everything you have done for all of us on this forum. God bless and take care.

Jason


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