if your thyroid is high or low does the support work the same anyway

Tracy,

I'm not sure, but I would assume they would prescribe different medications. I was just prescribed some pig thyroid for having low thyroid issues and I think I'm going to start them tomorrow.

www.mercola.com is typically a good place to go for natural/alternative health information - maybe you could find an article on there.

If I stumble across any good articles, I will let you know.

~Tia

NSP's Thyroid Support is designed to help improve thyroid function, especially in individuals with symptoms of low or hypothyroid activity. For more detailed information about the ingredients in Thyroid Support and how they help thyroid function, click on the link below:

Thyroid Support

Hope this helps,

I just ordered thyroid support from Nature's.. I have been weak, lazy and fatigued since high school. Since mercury targets thyroid, it is very likely that I’ve been the victim. My hopes for this product is that it will give me necessary energy so that I can do more staff and not feel like an 80 year old, constantly laying down.

Remember supplementing thyroida aloan can make you worse if you have an adrenal problem also.
And vise versa.

"Strength" brings up a good point. I have been told by more than one naturopathic doctor friend that using Thyroid Support together with Adrenal Support is often necessary in order to help correct problems of lethargy, weight-gain and weakened immunity. More often than not, adrenal fatigue (low adrenal function) goes hand-in-hand with low thyroid function. Not surprisingly, mercury toxicity can be a cause for both.

Thank you both for your suggestions. I will try the thyroid first and if I feel worse or see no improvements, then I will add the adrenal support. I wish I would have asked first before ordering thyroid, but I've read on one of the threads Russ mentioned that just by taking the thyroid support he got energized.

Yes, Russ gets so much energy from Thyroid Support that, if I remember correctly, he doesn't take it every day...too much energy interferes with his sleep.

Another person I know who has amalgam fillings still in found that taking Thyroid Support gave her the energy she normally lacked. She had enough energy to do all her housework, errands, and also exercise. She loves it because she's stopped being a "couch potato."

Let us know what happens for you.

That's true. I had to back off to only about 3 days per week or something close to that based on how I was feeling. It is bad to have too much energy, but I'm glad to have found the Thyroid Support because it really helped me with everything in life that required energy and enthusiasm.

That’s cool Russ,
I actually wish to have that much energy. I hope that this product will work without the other support. I guess I will take it twice a day as it says on the label. I will let everyone know on how it goes. I am waiting on its arrival right now with my fingers crossed.
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An update..
I took 1 pill of thyroid support in the afternoon and got some energy! Then I took 1 more at dinner and got more energy! It's half till 10 and I feel energized even though I got up at 6:30. Wow! I also took 600 mg of Magnesium Complex. I don't know which one is having this effect. I might have to experiment. But so far so good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I think you might benefit more from adrenals then thyroid,for males.
And with females it's the opposite as with femals thyroid usually gets affected,as opposed to men.

If I get the adrenal support, can I take it at the same time with thyroid or I have to do the adrenal first and then the thyroid? I've already feeling much better just of the thyroid.
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If you are feeling better that alone should tell that you may not need adrenal support,that's the best diagnosis IMHO.

Thanks for the advice strength! I will not get the adrenal support yet. I am bit hesitant to add more supplements in my repertoire, since I’ve already taking plenty (vit c, e, selinium, magnesium, algin, 5-htp powder, thyroid support, whey protein, and sometimes HMD). I am concerned about my liver. Should I add Milk Thrihstle? Does it help the liver in the supplement breakdown and assists it? Why do people take it? Also I have been experiencing mild pain in either large or small intestine on the bottom left side for about 5 months. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Yes you should add milk thistle.
I take 250mg 3times daily.

You asked about milk thistle helping supplement breakdown. Milk thistle can benefit digestion function in several ways: it promotes the production of hydrochloric acid (which breaks down protein), pancreatic enzymes and bile (which promotes peristalsis (intestinal motion)). Milk thistle also helps liver detoxification and offers numerous liver-protective effects.

However, some people find that milk thistle can make them feel nauseous or even make their mercury symptoms worse, most likely due to milk thistle's ability to promote liver detoxification. If this happens, you could try taking extra algin (if you see an increase in mercury symptoms), try taking a capsule of Ginger with the milk thistle (to help remedy the nausea), or take less milk thistle.

Let us know how it goes,

Good point laura,i forgot that many people do not respond well to milk thistle,luckily i don't have a problem taking it.

Thank you bot, I will get the Milk thristle and use it because I am taking a lot of supplements and to top it off I will be taking DMSA, which is said to have a bad effect on the liver. Also I will get the the adrenal support, since I already have the thyroid and so when they are combined they will produce a stronger effect. If mercury targets both thyroid and adrenal, I am pretty sure that they both need my support, for I had amalgam, braces, eat fish, had vacinations, lived nea toxinst, etc.

People!

Thyroid function can be tested easily and then you can decide if any substitution is needed.
TSH, T4, T3 or fT4, FT3 have to be tested. I take 100 microgram levotiroxin every day.

I have used chlorella for a year now and Algin for about six weeks. It is almost sure that my thyroid function is suppressed due to mercury poisoning. Doctors did not find any other reason although they searched several types of antibodies.

Unfortunately my thyroid function does not seam to recover after one year of detoxification.

After a few years of mercury detoxification I feel much better than I used to, but unfortunately my thyroid function does not seem to recover at all. Is there anybody here who could lower tiroxin supplementation after a longer mercury detoxification program?

Hi steve,

Andy Cutler considers endocrine problems = brain mercury. Reducing body/blood mercury levels can help alot, but stubborn difficult yeast/hormonal issues may only resolve after a long enough period of brain chelation.

Mercury - Brain V Body symptoms

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It is pretty clear from case reports (from patients, not MD's).

Endocrine problems, especially poor stress tolerance: brain.

Emotional volatility, difficulty teling what people are about: brain

Difficutly getting along with people, attention deficit: brain

Brain fog is about 70/30 body/brain. Mostly it does go away even without
brain detox.

Yeast is actually a brain related problem (it is controlled by inadequate
hormone levels, especially hydrocortisone) and while it improves with body
detox, it doesn't go away until the brain is cleared if it is a real bad
case.

Allergies, food sensitivities, chemical sensitivities do mostly go away
with body detox.

Fibromyalgia seems to be mostly body tox. Chronic fatigue seems to be about
70/30 body/brain.

Andy Cutler

Recommended reading:

Informative Posts by Andy Cutler on mercury/chelation/supplements etc

wow...i was reading the thread above. i also have thyroid (by the way do not start on synthroid or you will be on it forr the rest of your life ...it litterally killed me and i have been spiraling since 2005...thyroid support is a safe way to start- nobody told me that and i wish i had been told that.) and adrenal issues and i have been wondering if after i take all my fillings removed and replaced if i will get my nervous system back. what do you mean whenyou say brain chelation? what is that exactly? and is it dangerous?

Brain chelation is the use of an agent that is able to cross the blood brainer barrier and escort the mercury out of the brain. I'd invite you to check out the link earlier that I gave and there should be more information on brain chelating agents and what they do.

There are only two agents that I know of that can do this - ALA (alphic lipoic acid) (which is an antioxidant) and cilantro (herb).

The problem with cilantro is, though it's natural, there is not a protocol in place in how to use it to ensure its safety with moving/removing mercury. If there is random movement of mercury, then mercury can go anywhere/everywhere, which can make things worse. They call this "redistribution". That's why a protocol is important, because it's not just what you use, but how it's used that can make all the difference.

Fortunately, ALA and the way it works is more understood, so a protocol by Andy Cutler has been put in place. Therefore, it can be used with more certainty/safety, as long as this protocol is adhered to. Which is what Cutler has promoted. Taking a dose every 3 hours around the clock for a few days on, then a few days off as a break and keep repeating this cycle until mercury chelation is achieved and the person gets better. E.g. 3 days on ALA (every 3 hours), then 3 (or more) days off as a break and repeat.

Any form of chelation can be risky, whether body/brain chelation, because both move mercury. It's not so much the chelation or the chelator itself, but the mercury and how it is moved around the body that causes the most problems as far as I'm aware. Though in some cases a person may indeed be sensitive to the chelating agent itself. However, in most cases, any problems/backfires are usually related to how the mercury has been moved and sometimes it can be too much, too fast, and/or the manner it's been done. Mercury can end up being moved into worse and more sensitive areas if it's just merely being stirred up or has no consistent back up doses to keep the blood levels of chelator more constant and even, which allows for more safer movement of the mercury.

i checked it out. thanks. i have asked this question ut not gotten a response...anyone know what cuprimine is? is this a form of chelation?

3-mercapto-D-valine - The "mercapto" makes it appear to be a mercury chelator.

http://www.rxlist.com/cuprimine-drug.htm

Looks like it has other ingredients that may not be to good for you.

so what do i do? my doctor is very good i don't think she would recommend this unless it was safe. what do you recommend the day of removal?

I think I will start brain chelation with a small dosage of cilantro accompanied by the regular intake of Algin and gradually increasing the dosage of cilantro. As far as I know the main question is if the surrounding tissues are clean enough. If yes, then more mercury will be transported outwards than inwards.

I read a lot of articles where ALA, DMPS, DMSA, and EDTA, were mentioned as more dangerous chelators.

Yeah, definitely a wise move to make sure the other areas (blood/tissue) are reduced of mercury first before taking onboard brain chelation.

Any form of chelation is dangerous IMO, when it comes to moving mercury around. It's the manner they are used that can make all the difference.

I've had horrific reactions on natural products, without even using synthetic chelators and some where it took months for me to recover from afterwards, all because of the mercury they were moving around. I've had awful reactions on the synthetic ones too when I used them incorrectly. Reactions much the same as with the natural products - horrible and mercurial, rather than a direct reaction to the products themselves.

DMSA can do the same (if used on a wrong protocol). If used correctly? I did not find it a problem, but rather a help and I managed to start recovering quicker once I started on it. However, used in the wrong way? It can pose a very big risk, as can anything that chelates mercury if used inappropriately.

The chelators like ALA, DMSA, and DMPS, contain 2 thiol groups and have a much tighter grip on the mercury and are less likely to drop it during chelation, which is the advantage they have over weaker mobilising/chelating agents, which act more by stirring it up and moving it around. But again, a proper protocol must be in place to ensure the continued grip/movement of mercury with a constant level of chelator in the blood. Oral DMPS does not have to be taken as often as ALA or DMSA. One can actually take a dose every 8 hours (this is the half life).

ALA is an antioxidant. It's naturally occuring in many foods, so is not even a synthetic chelator. Yet it too should have a proper protocol in place to ensure the safer movement/removal of mercury. It is very powerful apparently and should be used only when blood levels of mercury are first reduced, and even then, on a protocol that keeps mercury movement/removal more stable.

EDTA, according to Cutler, is not effective enough for mercury toxicity. However, some people claim otherwise.

I wish you the best with the cilantro if this helps you. Cutler does not recommend it because he does not know what is in it exactly that is able to remove mercury and therefore does not know how to prescribe an appropriate protocol to ensure safe movement/removal.

He does admit however that it does chelate brain mercury and for some who cannot use ALA for any reason, may wish to try this (with caution).

That does not mean Cutler knows everything, but he's done many years of indepth study in mercury and other heavy metal toxicity and treated both adults/children alike with much success (and even himself). Personal experience has shown me that he is someone in this area that I've come to respect and trust. If I found someone else that worked as well, if not better? I would be personally recommending them as well or instead.

Everybody has their own experience though.

Hi Bex!
Thank you very much for your advices. I'll be very careful.

You're welcome Steve. All the best!

Picked this off the web, re, milk thistle, from the Annie Appleseed Project. Realize it's in response to 3-4 year old posts......


"Milk Thistle (Silybum marianum) No known contraindications or drug interactions.

"I [Annie Appleseed] just read the February [2009 probably] issue of Andrew Weil, MD SELF HEALING (which my husband subscribes to). In it Weil offers some interesting and useful information on Milk Thistle.

'There isn't a drug on the market than can protect the liver the way one humble herb can. The seeds of the milk thistle (Silybum marianum), a spiny plant that grows wild in Europe and parts of the United States, contains compounds that can reduce liver inflammation and protect the organ from toxic substances.

'By stimulating protein production, the herb can also help regenerate liver cells. Plenty of pharmaceuticals can harm the liver, but only an herb-milk thistle-can help heal it.

'How it works: Milk thistle's active ingredients-four compounds collectively called silymarin-are found in its seeds and can act in the body in several ways. They can act as antioxidants, which quench free radicals that can damage any cell. They fill specific receptor sites on liver cells to lock environmental toxins out. And-uniquely-silymarin promotes the regeneration of damaged liver cells.'

"After I [Annie Appleseed] read this and Dr. Weil's statement that 'Milk thistle will also provide liver protection to cancer patients on chemotherapy (it won't interfere with the treatment)', I went out and bought this herb and added it to my own supplements. He mentioned that it helps people who are exposed to volatile organic solvents on the job...

"Dr. Weil offers the following advice on what to buy: '...capsules containing an extract standardized to 70-8% silymarin. Milk thistle is non-toxic and can be taken indefinitely at the recommended dosage of 200 to 400 mg a day.'

"Here is what the American Botanical Council said about Milk thistle: no known contraindications, possible side effect-a mild laxative, no known drug interactions. Do not use with pregnancy or lactation as this has not been studied."