I noticed some time ago that taking vit with citrus bioflavinoids was spacing me out. I noticed this because the days I stopped taking it, I felt so much better - more alert, focussed, clear minded. But as soon as I took it, I felt worse, not better. I think this is because of the citrus, which doesn't do me at all.

So, I am going to try magnesium ascorbate powder and see if that helps with other symptoms. But definitely I feel better not taking vitamin c, when it should be the other way around.

PS the magnesium ascorbate powder is Vitamin C, just citrus-free one.

I can't take citrus either. I feel like I get worse headaches and float into my head again so called brainfog. I'm using the magnesium ascorbate and it it totally brilliant. I don't notice any bad side-effects, well apart from the mercury mobilization ones. So I try to stick with low doses even when C is known to protect the body from the mercury toxic effects. It hasn't got any thiols so it doesn't bind and excrete the mercury, only stirs things up in large doses.

Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I'm going to try low dose aswell. I thought at first it was the rosehip powder, but then I realised it was the citrus, seeing as I have trouble with it in general. Isn't it annoying how citric acid is added to so many things?

How are you with non-citrus fruit? I'm going to give it a try. I have a reaction to some apple juice, but I'm thinking it may be because they add the citric acid to some varieties. When I was on holiday I had tropical juice every morning for breakfast and I was okay, so I'm going to try that.

Hi (by way of introduction, I had been one of the original posters on this forum - then I lost track of it - as well as my pen name at that time, but now I found it again while searching for info re: PCA-Rx. At the time, I had PM'ed Laura re: my amalgam-removal trauma).

Since then, I've travelled a long way, & I decided to put in my 2 cents here because I, too, am allergic to acids & citrus. Note that on the PH scale, sulphuric & citric acids are a lower PH than vinegar. I'm not sure where ascorbic fits in on this scale, but it may be something to consider. Also, it's my experience that black cherry, raspberry, even maybe acerola , as well as magnesium & potassium make for very good protective buffers against acids. On the other hand: Phenolic/grape & malic/apple acids can be quite harsh on me, because they have an added, scouringPowder type of ingredient in them. Ditto vis-a-vis cranberry and pomegranate.

But above & beyond that, is my theory that the more extreme the stimulant is (i.e. either very low PH or very high PH), or even fluresent radiation emanating from computer monitors - all these may cause CALCIFIED-NANOBACTERIA & LYME CYSTS & HEAVY METALS to get stirred up. And because they have calcified shells surrounding themselves, the calcifications can tend to irritate whichever bodily organs they reside in. Which explains why pain travels. BTW, computer monitor emanations & citric acid & other "harsh-stimulants" (by stirring up internal toxins) can trigger them to cause headache, nausea, dizziness, eye inflammation, bone degradation, tooth tingling, etc. etc.

Also note that MANY people are getting helped by the Salt/C protocol. I strongly suspect that's because it somewhat mimics EDTA & sodium-citrate chelation, as was researched in the 1970's by Sincock as having an anti-aging effect. I suspect the Salt/C chelates calcifications, then zaps the various parasites that tend to burrow inside calcifications.
Re: Salt/C, see:
http://kurtsprotocol.blogspot.com/2005/07/executive-summary-of-saltc.html

P.S. Note that some people tack on even more "C" or citrus to the Salt/C protocol.

Minni

Hi, I'm the "Minni" who just posted above. I just now browsed thru the herballure user list, which refreshed my memory.

My alias for this forum was actually Maiden - and it was via Russ' site & forum that I first got wise to the issue of mercury.

Here's some tip-of-iceberg data of my past few years since then:
http://www.freewebs.com/eclectives/mymetalcharts.html

As of now, I've already tried the Sota magnetic pulser, and am in midst of Detoxamin. Am planning on trying the high power pulser next in conjunction with Salt/C & Detoxamin.

Here are a couple of options for Vitamin C supplementation that doesn't come from citrus:

Rose Hips - contains 10 to 100 times more vitamin C than other foods
Red Raspberry Blend - comes in liquid form in a vegetable glycerin base and can be taken straight or made into a tea
Barley Juice Powder - 7 times the vitamin C content of oranges
Hawthorn Berries - helps increase intracellular levels of vitamin C and good for the heart and circulation

Of course, you can also get Vitamin C Ascorbates, a powdered form of vitamin C that is non-acidic to the stomach. The vitamin C is a mixture of calcium ascorbate, magnesium ascorbate and potassium ascorbate and there's no added sugar.

I remembered that when I took my new magnesium ascorbate last week, I had a glass of apple juice the day before. Usually when I have apple juice I get rhinitis, and sure enough I had it that time. So, I figured it was probably that and not the MA. So, I tried it again and for the past couple of days haven't had rhinitis. I'm also feeling a little better, although have a bit of a headache (which may not be connected). So, I'm going to continue with it. I had a little scoop with the powder that measures 1000mg, so I take half a scoop in the morning. If I am okay with it, I will probably increase it.