'Looks like this Walid Shobat is getting a "thumbs down", and being accused of propagandist for the Israel Country. READ On..

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Yes, He supports Israel now because he IS a born again Christian and he declared so in his book.
Radical Islam would NOT support Israel so it tell's you right there he can't be an Islamic Terrorist anymore.

Shoebat comments on his site: “When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out. The Israeli Arab Conflict is not about geography but about Jew hatred.

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It's true what he say's it's not just about land it's about ALL the land and driving Israel into the sea and killing the Jews.
Plus, we are the great Satan we are infidels too!

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The word Israeli Zionist is usually used as propaganda against Israel pure propaganda and this tolerance this church speaks of and political correctness reeks of Chrislam which many Churchs do support and I do not listen to them either.

Even more interesting evidence that Shoebat lies is found in his strange insistence (on his website) that “Walid Shoebat” is a pseudonym to protect himself and family In fact we know it is he given name, having found someone form his local villages who know him there.

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He is putting his life on the line by converting to Christianity like Kaleem Saleem is for speaking out about this and....
In nice words I will say I totally disgree with these people or church and what is written about them.
I have the books and have seen them many times on Christian TV and disagree with your view about him/them.
The both declare they are Christians now even though they know it may cost them their lives like with other converts to Christianity from Islam.

The end time war WILL be from the Middle East as the Bible declares and as they are well educated in the prophecies of the Koran.
The Koran declares what will happen too.

People should read both and it will open up their eyes.
They have and are warning us about Creeping Sharia law which we DO see now creeping into Europe.
So what good is this doing them risking THEIR lives for us?

Oh yes, They both love the Muslim people where they came from that is why they are doing this risking their lives in this way to speak out on what they see as the truth now but not at one time.
This happened when with their knowledge of the Koran and when they finally got to read the Bible and compare they were shocked that it named their lands and talked about them losing this war in the end.
There was more then that with their former belief system they were shocked about but then they finally realized they needed to speak out and warn others about this.
And they do love their Arab brothers and Christian Brothers and why most Christian's speak out the truth IS because of love for your brother.
Ask Rabbi Jonathan Cahn why he does it and Irvin Baxter why they speak out.
Even Pastor Hagee who THEY put down.
They can disagree anyone can disagree in this so far Free Country to do so.
I know of other ministries that would disagree with their view on them too.
I have seen them on TV and have been reading their book and THEY do profess and rather loudly.

How can they say that when I saw them on TV doing so and it's in their Books?

Chosen People Ministries describes Shoebat as a “born again Christian,” but nothing on Shoebat’s website even hints of professed Christianity, and if he is one, he did not learn the part that requires one to love his enemy as you love your brother .

I made a mistake on that Web Link I posted and yes I really didn't watch it sorry...
I'm just feeling alittle pressured and stressed here but of course that is just me at this time.
Not everyone needs to totally agree with me or anyone else on this board and free speech is how we learn things and sooo glad in this country we still have that at this time.
Not everywhere in the world do they get to have their say so I admire that.
And Admit I was Wrong and this is the View of Walid Shoebat instead.

666 Islam-Walid Shoebat-Updated with pics.wmv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2vbZG4_g8k

And with Sid Roth...

Walid Shoebat with Sid Roth - 666 God's War on Terror

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aGcRx-zu54&feature=related

His View on Egypt

Walid Shoebat Interviewed on Hannity About Egyptian Revolution

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znsmMo4tk3E&feature=b-vrec

We see creeping Sharia law and are under the threat of attack now and it seems that what he predicted to happen that others did not believe would happen is happening now.
Chrislam will not fly for Iran.
But I think that God's war on terror will happen but before that Walid makes some good points in the reality of what is going on today.
I think political correctness will be our downfall.
People should read his book and hear him out then decide what they want to believe.
Everybody has that right to voice an opinion of course.
And here we are 2012...

Walid Shoebat End Times Alert (November 2010)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnmk-Qrk_Cw&feature=related

He is very outspoken there is no doubt he's changed.
Plus Mein Kampf, has become a bestseller in Turkey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4361733.stm

a best seller in Middle Eastern bookstores probably in Iran too but in political correctness we didn't believe that Hitler would do what he said he was going to do too.
What about Iran do we believe what Mr. President,” Ahmadinejad say's he is going to do?

Here he is on the 700 club.
Shoebat: Middle East is preparing to fight Israel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVKS4aQ3_TY&feature=related

On the 700 club
Why I Left Islam - Kamal Saleem (1 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwtHEq_uXr8

Why I Left Islam - Kamal Saleem (2 of 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybGKssaT0uI&feature=related

Three Ex Terrorists Speak Out - Part 1 of 14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1yXo7oHU3o&feature=related

Pat Roberson said interesting book!
I agree.
I think America is fighting for her life too!
We live in trying times people see that now.

Three Ex Terrorists Speak Out - Part 1 of 14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1yXo7oHU3o&feature=related

To Creeping Sharia Law Many People are speaking out about it now before it is too late!
Wake Up America I think the time is getting short!

I disagree with this post. I have a BIG TIME CHECK in my spirit about this person.

"Beware of false teachers which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."(Matt. 7:15)

"Ye shall know them by their fruits." I will not reply again to this post because I know it is an endless battle. You have made up your mind, open your heart.

You also post things from other ministries that ARE NOT of the Lord, ..................one for instance is that Joel Osteen.
"Be sure his sins will find him out."

This man is not for the Jews, the Lord's chosen people. My Bible says, "Pray for the peace of Jerusalem."

"If America is destroyed it will not be from the outside, it will be from within." END OF STORY.

I Agree It Will Be Both!

If America is destroyed it will not be from the outside, it will be from within."

Yes I have Thank You!

You have made up your mind, open your heart.
You also post things from other ministries that ARE NOT of the Lord, ..................one for instance is that Joel Osteen.

I might have posted a you tube video of something he said but that doesn't mean I am a supporter of him.
I have never given to his ministry or have his newsletters.

This man is not for the Jews, the Lord's chosen people.

I disagree as once they where not for the Jews they admitted it they wanted to kill them and now they have repented for it and are born again Christians risking their lives in support of Israel and speaking out.

But that's O.K you can disagree and voice your opinion and you are right.
We don't want this to turn into an endless battle of disagreement. Because we just disagree on this subject.

Thanks! My Friend!

That Mein Kampf, has become a bestseller in Turkey.
and best seller in Middle Eastern bookstores probably in Iran too...
I find that higly disturbing and how could a minority of people the Hitler party of Germany highjack a country from a majority of the people and turn it into a living hell?
Apathy? Disbelief? Fear? Why did they not speak out before it was too late.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/Jews_Nazi_Germany.htm

Hitler was elected in a democratic nation.
His policy was a policy of lies and propaganda.
The Jews who rode the trains thought they were going to a place to get Job's.
And yes there was more of them then them and the Majority was hijacked by the Minority maybe 10 percent of true believers in the policy of Mein Kampf and then German's which cried after they saw the TRUTH of what Hitler did with his twisted belief's.
Hitler made plain his hatered for the Jews Early on in his political career.
And how did it end up?

The Holocaust, war, shame and that's not all who were persecuted or murdered by his regime and beliefs.
He burned Church's and Murdered Christians and anyone else that got in his way may we never forget that.
Ever.
But in political correctness we didn't believe that Hitler would do what he said he was going to do.
What about Iran do we believe what Mr. President,” Ahmadinejad say's he is going to do?
Do we believe what those who want to institute Sharia law around the world are going to do?
But we say there are Muslims that don't want that and that may be true but has anyone taken alook what is happening in Brussels?
The moderates are being shouted down and called not true Muslims so that makes them infidels.
And Sharia law is being pushed on a population and if the Majority of Westerners want this as the law of the land in their lands.
Then do nothing and let it happen.
Apathy.

There are people in this country who because of anger at the Church or God or Christians or the way that someone may vote who may forget that we live in a country of the free choice to vote the way we want to and to believe the way we want to and someone will always in a free country be offended because of someone else's actions.

But do we really want to live in a country where just because someone was offended even though the actions where offensive.
That in the court of Sharia law offensive means capitol punishment?

http://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisses-charges-against-muslim-man-attacked-atheist-204051912.html

The other man dressed up like the Pope and lots of people may find that offensive but what is highly disturbing is if the man attacked the one dressed up as the Pope instead he probably would have been charged with something.

So what do we want to be the law of this country?
Blasphemy laws based on offense?
Or laws based on disagree with your neighbor call your neighbor out on it with the freedom of speech and the Constitution to do so.
Because people will always be offended by something.
Do we want laws based on offense?
And if so where would it end as someone will always find offense in another.

Pakistanis Rally in Support of Blasphemy Law

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/01/world/asia/01pakistan.html

What that Atheist did was offensive to people but do we REALLY want laws based on offense?

Hmmm.....
This thread was written in response to something posted on the board and that posting contained a link to a site I can't seem to find on the board anymore that "put down Pastor Hagee" and said he was not a friend of Israels and said other things that put down others as well as Walid Shoebat..
I was replying to that as the first post on top shows that.
That's why I wrote this thread. That site seemed to be more in support of a Chrislam type of view in my view and seemed vehemently against those with a different point of view. I found it to be hostile against Pastor Haggee so was quite upset at the time after I read it.
But.....
Can't find it on the board anymore it has to be somewhere?



Not a fan of Joel Osteen though cannot say that nobody has been lead to the Lord through his ministries and nobody there has studied the Bible and that he will not get to heaven.
And even Jay Sekulow can interview him.

.Sekulow Now: Joel Osteen & Jay Sekulow discuss Israel .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ijOXYbw8a8U

But he is not anywhere close to my main focus of ministries that I do like posted on this board.

It had to do with this thread and still believe all those people are sincere. Seen alot of it on the Sid Roth show and even TBN and other ministries as guests.

http://orbisvitae.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=66336#Post66336

Edited to change the title back.

and as I posted my opinion..



Posts have been done about Chrislam on this board and many do not support the idea that it could be done like that. Many ministries disagree that such a thing concept like that would be workable. But Pastor Hagee does support Israel and that link was wrong on their take of him. And the other as well. Thats just my opinion on it.