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#34733 - 04/09/08 01:26 PM Good parasite cleanse?
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Can anyone recommend a good parasite cleanse that worked for them?

After two rounds of regular medications, I can say that I am not feeling much better, and I need something to finish up the job properly. Please let me know if you found a solution that worked for you. Thanks.
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#34734 - 04/09/08 02:46 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I have had great success with herbs from www.humaworm.com called “Humaworm”

This got talked about in detail here

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB19&Number=252015&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

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#34735 - 04/12/08 01:57 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Humaworm is the best cleanse you can get. Highly recommended. Im currently doing another round of cleansing. Start slowly. I took one capsule right away and my temporature dropped massively and i woke up with terrible nightsweats. If you keep it slow though everything is good.

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#34736 - 04/13/08 10:44 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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What would be a good way to start slowly? Do one tablet twice a day instead of two? I usually have strong reactions to any sort of detox/cleanse so I wouldn't want to overburden my system.

I understand the big factor in getting rid and staying rid of parasites is getting the immune system up and regulating the blood PH. I am extremely acidy which makes it harder to get rid of candida/parasites. I may start with an immune boost and then do the cleanse, hard to say what would be the most beneficial thing to do first. In the mean time I am using the parasite zapper, looks like it works!
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#34737 - 04/14/08 11:30 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I wouldnt even do one capsule nina. I would divide one into four and start from there. Take some morning and evening. If you got parasites youll get itching in the evening once you start taking it as thats when they migrate. Sounds disgusting but all true. Small doses but continuous is the best way i think along with a low sugar/carb diet youll kill them.

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#34738 - 04/16/08 06:45 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Should any cleanse be repeated after 90 days as far as parasites go?

Oh, believe me, i know for a fact I have them, so many sickly symptoms...YUCKS

I am not getting better so I found something locally to start of now called Paraprotex. It says to take one capsule twice per day for 30 days also. If I start slow and my cleansing takes longer I assume it's ok as long as I repeat it in 90 days from when I finish?

Thanks for all the info. Humaworm sound good, just have no time to wait for delivery overseas, my simptoms getting worse again. Perhaps I can order it for the next round of cleansing. Strong stuff, eh?
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#34739 - 04/16/08 05:29 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Should you repeat after 90 days? Depends how u feel, depends what happens on you first round? Some people feel nothing, some people have a load of crazy symptoms, some people just get better….at the end of 30 days you will know if it was worth doing and worth doing again.

Humaworm is strong stuff, yes. But it is accumulative…at the end of 30 days your whole body is saturated with bug killing herbs which leaves very few places from the bugs to hide.

Good luck
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#34740 - 04/16/08 06:57 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I personally think going with stuff thats not way too harsh is the best. Raw Garlic, Raw Ginger, Coconut Oil, Bentonite clay, bromelain, pumpkin seeds, etc...

If you can find food grade diatamaceous earth I would highly recommend that as well.

parasites just can't thrive in a healthy digestive tract, so do whatever you can to get your digestion in check and don't overeat. Eat the best healthiest foods you can and don't eat too many carbs.

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#34741 - 04/17/08 05:55 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks for the advice. I am doing a combination of both eating raw Garlic, Ginger etc and starting a parasite cleanse plus zapper. I have been out of work for too long, so need to do what I can do be on my feet, the sooner the better.

I also started juicing like crazy, good combination is cabbage and carrot juice with Ginger. Lots of minerals which parasites hate, and we end up being deficient in most imporant once like mag/calc. This has caused imflammation of my joints, and brought my immune system down. I did a round of zeolite to try and get rid of some mercury as well as parasites love toxic environment and unhealthy gut. Doing all I can in all aspects...

Will let you know what I think of this product Paraprotex, made by CaliVita. It has rangoon creeper fruit, wormseed powder, barberry extract, myrrh gum, Clove Oil, pau d'arco, Black Walnut powder, walnut oil, grapefruit seed extract and Garlic powder. Seems like an ok combination. Took one capsule yesterday, already started feeling itching at night like Stuart said. I also heard it is good to start a cleanse 2-3 days before a full moon, so I should hope good timing! Good luck to everyone dealing with these nasty creatures
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#34742 - 04/17/08 03:00 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Good luck Nina
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#34743 - 04/18/08 03:33 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I have had a bad reaction to Humaworm bowel cleanse. I started slowly with one tablet then built up, taking in a lot of water as instructed, but after 5 days I have had to call it quits. My bile production has ceased, with lots of undigested food in the stools, they are yellow, and there have been only small amounts coming through and barely once a day, which is not what you would expect, as Psyllium husk swells a great deal. I am more constipated now since starting the cleanse and feel that there is a big backlog in there. I am also having more extreme chemical reactions which makes me think that my liver is really in trouble. Humaworm are great and offered me a refund if I had problems. What a great company.

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#34744 - 04/18/08 06:16 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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That happen to me on my first round of Humaworm too, although I just took Humaworm and not humacleanse too. I needed a colonic to unblock me, was my first and I hated the thought of a colonic, but was not so bad when I did it. My blockage was caused by so much toxic waste being expelled at the same time. Literally the herbs enabled huge waste to come out, but because I had so much and was so chronically constipated in the first place I got proper blocked up.

Obviously at the time I had no idea and its only after months and months of learning that I figured out what happened and why. In a way I am glad because it forced me to have a colonic and that was and at the very bottom of my to-do-list. My health got significantly better after that.

Are you taking steps to unblock? Even if u don’t want to do a colonic (because first time it sure is a headfunk!) there are lots of other ways, although a colonic is the best way. Salt water flush? Castor oil? Epsom salt flush? That’s real important to unblock yrself Mati.

Take good care of yourself
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#34745 - 04/18/08 06:24 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks sunshine

epsom salts down the hatch! How much can i take? Also VitC flush? Its the lack of bile that concerns me

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#34746 - 04/18/08 06:29 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine

do you think it's OK to do the Humaworm parasite cleanse at the same time as chelating with DMSA / ALA? I finally plucked up the courage to start the parasite cleanse a couple of days ago, but woke up this morning really feeling I needed to chelate, and I have had a good response to two rounds of ALA, so I don't really want to stop for a whole month.

Too much all at once? That's my feeling, so I shall probably stop the parasite cleanse tonight and push on with chelation.

How are you doing without your supplements? Are you chelating without them?

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#34747 - 04/18/08 06:48 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Mati

JMO - but go gently with Epsom Salts if you are not very strong. I used them once, they worked within the hour, it lasted all day, and left me weak and shaky for that day and the next. Go low ...

Bile flow - Milk Thistle, I think, lecithin for a clogged up liver. You could try both.

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#34748 - 04/18/08 07:05 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Mati: Epsom salt flush. 1 tablespoon in a glass of water. Warm water is prolly best. Make sure you have an empty stomach otherwise you may get a bit nauseas and …… stay near the loo…….100pct stay close.

Vit C flush…yeah you could do that, same trick, different pack. google it. obviously only do ONE flush…not all of them!
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#34749 - 04/18/08 07:10 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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HI Imgeha,

No. I would not parasite cleanse and chelate at the same time.

Some bloke on yahoo FDC did (Topsbroker) and it was too much and he got sick for a week. They are powerful and together its too much.

I am about to start my 3rd huamworm and I plan of breaking from chelating because doing the two is too much.

Me? No supplements? Good days and bad days. adrenals suffered yesterday, but all fine today. I want to get more round of chelation in before I start Humaworm.
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#34750 - 04/18/08 07:56 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks sunshine

I did take about that amount earlier to no effect so will try again. Epsom salts do not make me nauseous after taking them every day after your example. I am trying to reach the only local irrigationist but no luck so far.

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#34751 - 04/18/08 10:30 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Still waiting for a **** - sorry too much information.

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#34752 - 04/18/08 12:02 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine

thanks for the heads up. I shall stop the parasite cleanse tonight and continue chelating. Must say it's a bit of a bummer that it lasts a month. I really don't want to stop chelating for that long. Something to do when I've got more rounds under my belt....

Obviously I am not very overrun with parasites, as I have had no reaction at all, apart from some bloating, which is the psyllum I assume. I have heard of horrendous stories of people vomiting parasite eggs on day one, which grossed me out completely. Dodgy business, this parasite cleansing stuff. You never know what's in there until it comes out. Euww...

Think is dodgy - dropping supplements, and not a la Cutler protocol. Your body needs support. I really wouldn't want to drop the Milk Thistle, probiotics, Magnesium, Calcium, and B vits, as a minimum. The way I look at it is - my amalgams were in for decades, and they were trashing my body all that time. It needs intensive care and support now. But I understand the desire not to swallow handfuls of tablets every day. My mum thinks I'm a supplement junkie.

I am feeling better I am on my third round of DMSA / ALA (after 40 rounds of DMSA only), and have noticed a big improvement since adding in the ALA. This is definitely the way to go. Don't get too sidetracked with the cleansing. Getting the mercury out is as, if not more, important, IMO.

Have a good weekend.

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#34753 - 04/18/08 03:13 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Crisis over - details sensitively withheld lol!

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#34754 - 04/19/08 02:02 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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LOL hahahaha...good
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#34755 - 04/19/08 07:17 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Trowing up parasite eggs? Ewww....

I'm on day 4 of my cleanse, so far had nausea (thank God mine are microscopic at least, although they don't make me feel any better!), had a bad panic attack yesterday, I assume all the toxins coming out making me go totally mad, itching, wheezing - feeling like I will totally run out of air... AHHH!! Does it get easier and do symptoms subside with time?? I certainly hope so, this is one tough cleanse to bear. At least no bowel problems, so far so good...
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#34756 - 04/20/08 12:57 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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HI Nina. Yeah it does get easier. From what I’ve read the first 7 days is when all your living bugs and bacteria get killed, after that it’s the eggs that hatch and the herbs then kills them. The sicker you are , the more parasites u got and the more they fight and struggle to live….all yr inchin’, wheezing…all that is parasites fighting to stay alive and you are killing them, which is exactly what you wanted. looks like was a good thing for you to be doing a parasite cleanse…getting so much reactions……hang on…..it will pass and when it does u will feel much better with them out of you and no longer competing with you for food/space etc.

My symptoms usually go in waves…build up over 1-2 days…a mad day or two…then subside down again….and so on for the month…but everyone is different. Mine got progressively easier as the month went by, but yeah first week was a little…..intense. I found my symptoms where familiar to me…..just amplified!

One things for sure, the more reactions you get….the more bugs u got….the more important it is to be doing the cleanse in the first place. Congrats for finding the courage to attack the pesky blighters!

Take care
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#34757 - 04/20/08 09:22 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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If anyone is interested I have 30 supply Humaworm parasite cleanse and 3 weeks supply (three packets unopened that is, there are some extra but opened, if wanted, it comes in 4 packets) Humaworm bowel cleanse

£10 + £18 = £2 p & P

They are too strong for my system.

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#34758 - 04/23/08 03:23 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Just curious how long it took anyone on the forum here to get rid of parasites with herbs or other ways... Looking to hear some success stories, how you did it and how long it took. Just need some encouragment as on my day 7 I have had such horrible symtomps that I had to take a day break with the herbs, but continuing on tomorrow!

Let me know what worked for you, I am currently very infected with giardia lamblia and could use some help! Been on curezone, but too many horror stories, plus I can relate to other people more here who are also mercury toxic.

thanks for any input!
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#34759 - 04/24/08 12:15 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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i just took it real slow and it worked. Eating no fruit really helped. The itching though was terrible. Whats so ironic is that you dont feel it before you start cleansing its like theres nothing there. Its only when you upset the parasites that they go mad. There was one symptom i never mentioned and it was probably the worst for me and that was the terrible vivid dreams/nightmares i was having when i was on the cleanse. I know i still have some in me but its building up the courage to do another round. you are right it takes a lot of of you.

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#34760 - 04/24/08 04:12 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Rid of parasites?…..don’t think that’s likely quickly, certainly not until our bodies are in much much better shape when the mercury is chelated out and its all working flawlessly again. Your body is perfectly capable of getting rid of parasites/fungus/bacteria on its own…………as long as its in good health. The sicker your are, the more toxic you are, the more places they have to hide, the less strength your body will have to fight them and remove them. You can kill them, but if you are still toxic, poisoned & weak they will come back.

But, you will be able to drastically reduce their numbers and you will feel much better when you have had a good cleaning out inside, you will be stronger & there will be less places for them to hide. When they come back they are much less strong anyway.

I know I will be repeatedly doing parasite cleanses every 3-4 months for the duration of my chelation…until I’m cured. 2 years hopefully. Why do I know that, because I feel so much better after doing these cleanses.

At the end of the cleanse I feel the symptoms go very much away and I feel great….but as I get closer to 3 months after the last dose….i get the symptoms coming back (although milder). My biggest symptoms are itching. Major fully body 24 hours a day itching. Not itching until I bleed…no no…..just constantly itching….its a crazy time…..comical….

I start my 3rd HW in the morning so we can compare crazy symptoms together. Mine will prolly start coming on strong in a weeks time

Take care
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#34761 - 04/26/08 09:33 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine ~ talk about crazy symptoms, my God! Yesterday was a day from hell, I was going from seriously shaking to needing to vomit all the time. The dreams are horrific and vivid like Stuart says. My muscles are so sore, so I upped the Magnesium and Calcium together. Seems like I lost a few pounds just in a few days time on the cleanse. That's not good news for me as I don't have any to spare, and I am seriously weak.

It's such a catch 22, they make me feel so sick when I have them, but getting rid of them is just as bad or worse, they are putting up queit a fight. Feeling so toxic I was going from crying one minute to laughing the next. Seriously thought I would just go mad It's really so freaky...I don't know where to find the courage or strenght to continue, but if I don't I am doomed!!

There is a 100 capsules in the pack, and I must have taken only 12 or so. I'm thinking of talking just half of tablet for a while, see how that goes. So sad, tomorrow is my b'day, don't feel like celebrating much...
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#34762 - 04/26/08 05:28 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Nothing much happening over here with me, I few strange sudden itches, like a bee sting behind the knee(strange eh!), but I’m only on day two. I have been reading over on the curezone Humaworm thread about the extra strength HW that I’m doing……I think I may have bitten off more than I can chew! Maybe I should have done just a regular HW? Some people have a tough time on extra strength….oh well too late now.

Your day from hell….Hang on! They are dieing! Keep on killing them. They are fighting hard, which is why you have crazy stuff happening. I know exactly what you mean when u say crying to laughing in the space of a couple of minutes…..the symptoms get so strange they are comical….i wonder whats gonna happen to me this time?

I know it’s horrid to say, but you should be happy you plucked up the courage to do this. With such a big reaction……means you got plenty of the buggers in there…..and they all need killing….

I found the symptoms come and go in waves every 3-4-5 days, although my first set of symptoms on my first parasite cleanse where freaky/extreme/comical….even though I was having a rough time….not for one minute did I consider stopping, it got bad, but not that bad. And because I knew that these reactions was kinda normal (for parasite cleanses!), because I knew I was winning….i just kept on battling. At the end…..i was in much much better shape….60pct of my food intolerances disappeared overnight…..i defo won that battle.

Good luck Nina, stand firm.

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#34763 - 04/27/08 01:54 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Oh I forgot to say…I also initially lost a little weight, can’t remember how much…maybe 1 or 2 KG, but over the next 4 months I put on 10KG(22pounds). Happy Dayz! That was wanted and well needed. Most of that weight went on in the first month. I was ravenously hungry for 2-3 months. Because I had been cleaned out inside I could digest more of my food and my body when into rebuild mode.

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#34764 - 04/29/08 02:36 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Happy Birthday Nina



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#34765 - 04/30/08 08:24 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks for the b'day wishes Sunshine! I just want you to know that your words mean a lot to me in order to get me through this awful experience.

I was thinking of adding the Bentonite clay as well, I heard it helps to get rid of parasites, plus I'm sure it helps with elimination, while adding necessary minerals. Any thoughts? I would start slow while taking paraprotex supplement. I am back on it, but taking it a bit slower than before. I also added charcoal, on curezone I read that it helps with panic attacks and sweeping up a bit of the toxic overload, I'm not sure it it works, it seems that my die-off symptoms are a bit more tolerable - at least I am no longer pulling my hair out (literally)
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#34766 - 05/01/08 04:06 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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HI Nina, sorry was a day late on the birthday wishes, but I got waylaid Monday.

I don’t know about Bentonite clay, Sos may be able to help on that?

Re Chracoal, I thought that when you take charcoal that it absorbs everything in the digestive tract…that includes food, vitamins and minerals as well as fungus and bugs, and that taking it was recommended for short term only. i.e to solve specific issues with a specific problem. For example, when having amalgam removed you take charcoal to soak up any that gets ingested. But….i am not the expert on this, I have not read up on this, so if you read something somewhere else….that may be correct. But, saying that…I thought charcoal was for short term use only. Certainly it will absorb nutrients that should be for your body to use.

I am not familiar with the parasite cleanse you are doing? Does it have bowel cleansing herbs in it too? They help remove the dead bodies. Can you post up the ingredients for me and I will have a look. If it does not have bowel cleansing herbs, when there are 20 different ways to do bowel cleansing, some much more palatable that others…..

I’m on day 6 of my parasite cleanse, I have a little heartburn, a few spots, a cold sore…but all minor minor stuff….its been a breeze so far.


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#34767 - 05/01/08 02:18 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine,

here are the ingredients of the product that I am taking:

It has rangoon creeper fruit, wormseed powder, barberry extract, myrrh gum, Clove Oil, pau d'arco, Black Walnut powder, walnut oil, grapefruit seed extract and Garlic powder.

I am also of the understanding that charcoal is for short term use only, so I only take it when the die-off gets out of hand, I wouldn't want it absorbing the paraprotex and other minerals, although it had seemed quiet handy, and it says on the bottle that you can take 2-4 capsules 3 times a day, so I am definately not doing that much. Was thinking that clay would be better instead to clean me out because it also contains necessary minerals while detoxing, but not sure about doing everything together. If anyone else has any input on this, that would be great.

Glad that you are doing so good on your parasite cleanse. It seems that things are calming a bit for me too, but I never know...so I will wait and see. I am looking forward to feeling better soon.
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#34768 - 05/01/08 05:07 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I like those ingredients…nice! Cool product…I looked up the stuff I never heard of I approve…nice! That should be pretty effective on you…no wonder you found it a tad strong….anyway…now you know you get reactions…that confirms you have bacteria/fungus/parasites inside you that need your attention.

However this stuff does not have any bowel cleansing herbs in it. Nothing wrong with that…you wanted a parasite cleanse….and that’s what you got.

The reason it is recommended to attack the bugs and cleanse the bowels at the same is because bowel cleaning cleans out the digestive tract and help remove all the dead bodies too. If you don’t remove the dead bodies quick enough or there is a slight blockage this causes problems and may be the reason you having a rough-ish time. (although, rough times are common and something to think of as confirmation that you are doing the right thing.)

Bowel cleansing and parasite cleansing should be looked at as two separate things, tackling two separate issues….. but because they are linked and help each other…. doing them at the same time is best. You don’t have to…but if you killing all them bugs…may as well get rid of them asap by bowel cleansing too.

There are many different ways to bowel cleanse and you can learn about them here
http://curezone.com/cleanse/bowel/default.asp

if you don’t like the thought of getting your hands dirty with tubes and nasty nastiness like that….(i don’t)…..then you can take herbal bowel cleanses. Just take a few caps of herbs….they swell up to fifty times there normal size inside you and clean out out…..simple, no pain and no nasty tubes to stick anywhere. You could take some castor oil too…does the same thing. Google it first, if u wanta try that, or ask me.

If you click on mucoid plaque on the link above, you will see yucky stuff that will prolly be inside you….fungus/parasite/bacteria live between that mucoid plaque and your intestines. So the best thing to do is clear it out with a bowel cleanse of some type and at the same time kill any bugs with the parasite killing herbs. That’s why doing them together is cool. If you just kill the bugs but leave their house…they will just come back.

(I also think this is why Humaworm gets such good results because it’s a bowel cleanse and a parasite cleanse and a blood cleanse all in one.)

Take care Nina, ask if you have any questions or need any recommendations.

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#34769 - 05/01/08 09:41 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks for the great inf Sunshine. I have a question about Humaworm? I noticed on their website they sell two different products; the parasite cleanse and the bowl cleanse. Do you recommend taking both at the same time or will the parasite cleanse do the job all by itself. Sounds like a dumb question I know but I would like to hear your advice before I make my purchase.
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#34770 - 05/02/08 06:21 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine ~ Glad you think it's a good parasite cleanse. Definately getting reactions, so at least I know it is working like you said...

As far as bowel cleanse, I checked out curezone, thanks for the link. I think I may go with some green clay on that (already got it at home, may as well try it). Not so big into tubes etc like you said. I'm ok with herbs, so if you think of a simple herbal bowel cleanse that I can do, I am all ears (that is not too agresive as I usually have no problems with BM) Again, as I said I think green clay is good for parasite/bowel cleansing, will search a bit on the net about see what I find, and will post if I find anything interesting. Will keep posted!


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#34771 - 05/02/08 06:51 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Angelbaby

Yes they sell some different products

1) Humaworm: this is the parasite cleanse I’m talking about and the one I have had good success with. It is a combined parasite, bowel and blood cleanser. You can take this on it’s own. This is what most people start with, its simple, just take 2 capsules before breakfast and two caps before dinner for 30 days…and wham bam thank you ma'am…all cleaned out.

http://www.humaworm.com/formula.html

2) They also sell a straight bowel cleanse called “Humacleanse”. This has no parasite killing herbs in it. HUMACLEANSE contains 10g Psyllium, 10mg senna, and 10mg cascara sagrada in each daily dose. The added natural laxatives keep things flowing smoothly by helping the body rid itself of toxins and waste. Cascara sagrada stimulates the long muscles along the colon to work in a wave like action. This action helps to loosen the build up so that the Psyllium can then trap and remove it entirely. Again you just take some capsules at certain times in the day.
http://www.humaworm.com/coloncleanse.html

Now….you can take both at the same time if you wish. It gets slightly more tricky because you have to take capsules at breakfast, lunch, dinner and bedtime….but that is hardly difficult and just a matter of arranging your life appropriately.
Why would you to take them a the same time?….the bowel cleanse will greatly help and speed removal of dead bodies and remove more waste/blocked gunk out of you than just Humaworm alone. I have done everything in every option. I have taken just Humaworm, I have taken just humacleanse and I have taken them both together. Any option is good. I am currently doing Humaworm only, I finished humacleanse on its own about 1 month ago.

The more bowel cleansing I do…the better I get. At first I didn’t even realise the bowel cleansing stuff was having much benefit, but after all the stuff I have tried I have realised that bowel cleansing is very very important and has played a very large part in me getting better. At first I had no idea it was mucoid plaque coming out of me and no idea that was the reason I was getting better. I killed the uninvited guests and removed their home…I got better quickly after that.

After 90 days of bowel cleansing, (that’s 2 x Humaworm and 1 x humacleanse, each is 30 days) I still have mucoid plaque coming out of me, each time it comes out I get a little better. What I’m saying is I was very congested and toxic and cleaning me out has taken a long time.

remember to drink plenty of water on the cleanses and 90 days inbetween parasite clenases. bowel cleansing can be done more frequently....i do humacleanse inbetween parasite cleanses.
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#34772 - 05/02/08 08:40 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks so much for the in depth explanation Sunshine. I plan to order both and try taking them both at the same time. I figure if it is too much for me to handle taking them both together, I will just quit taking one. That is only if it gets unbearable. I am already expecting to experience die off with the parasite cleanse but the thought of the dead parasites layered in body is motivation enough to stick with it. I will keep you updated after I receive the products and have experienced their affects. Thanks again!!! Your advice has been invaluable to me so far! I so appreciate it!
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#34773 - 05/03/08 02:46 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Np Angelbaby good luck.

Did you know Humaworm has a very good support thread on curezone….very helpful and ful lof people having strange symptoms and glorious results…well worth a long read…it will motivate you to give it a try. some people get no reactions some people get loads…everyone is different.

http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=757
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#34774 - 05/03/08 02:53 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Today is day 8 on Humaworm….i woke up with a big headache….i don’t usually get headaches, so I assume this is because of Humaworm. Other than that….some very strange BM’s full of parasites….otherwise calm.
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#34775 - 05/03/08 06:42 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Nina, ahhhh feel rough today, headache hurts and I just had an alien in my BM. Totally disgusting. It was huge too. 2 inches long plus 3-4 inch tail….man o man it was gross! It had a funking head. Eeeeik! Looked like a mini-Dementor from a Harry Potter film. Eeeeeeeeeeeeeik!!!!!!!!!!! Thank funk it’s out of me…….ahhhhh….makes me gag…..was so big too…..no wonder I got a blinding headache…..

Yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
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#34776 - 05/03/08 11:17 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Sunshine,

Eww that is really disgusting! At least you got it out of you!! YUCKS

I don't get to see my guys, I have giardia, but I feel as sick as hell from it...

The nausea has stopped, right now I just feel like a dead zombie, dragging myself around the house. My muscles and bones hurt, and just feeling toxic all over, but I am hoping the crazy shaking, nausea, wheezing attacks are over..At least I hope. It's day 18 for me although I am only now back on full doze, so it will actually take me another 40 days to finish the cleanse because I had to slow down so much. Started with the clay this morning. Will see how that goes...

How many parasite cleanses have you done in total so far Sunshine? How is your overall health? Are you able to work etc? I have been very ill and pretty much not able to function for the past 4 months, so I am hoping that when I finish this parasite cleanse I will at least be able to have some form of a life back, been so depressed

Keep me posted!
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#34777 - 05/03/08 11:29 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Forgot to mention PMS symptoms are really bad, is there anything I can take to lessen them? Uhh, so irritating, that time of the month makes it always so much harder, as if suffering as much as I am already is not enough in itself

How long have you known you had parasites?
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#34778 - 05/03/08 12:58 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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This is my third parasite cleanse. The previous two where 30 days cleanses too. I waited the suggested 90 day period inbetween parasite cleanses to guard against creating “resistant bugs.” So I done 60 days parasite killing and doing another 30 days now.

I was repeatedly tested for parasites, muscle tested 15 time, stool tested, blood tested………they all came up negative. Every single one said NO PATASITES! I was so so badly ill last year…i was desperate. I ran out of things to try. I tried everything that I though was wrong, until I was sitting there thinking…why am I not getting better? I have done everything!!!!! So…I started ignoring what I “thought” was wrong with me….and instead did things that I thought I did NOT have. Only when I ignored what western medicine had brainwashed into my mercury toxic head…only then did I turn the corner and get better. The turning point was the Humaworm, bowel and parasite cleanse, along with all the other stuff I did….i finally flipped over and started healing. I vividly remember that first feeling of healing….i had been searching for so long…..that was august-sept 2007

My overall health is much better now. I do work. I have a nice stressful white collar job in the city. I was physically in the office last year…but mentally I was on another plant. I am much more with it now. Last year was my mid-life crisis year. Was an utter nightmare. amalgam removal completely screwed my already screwed body. Virtually the whole year was a right off, the previous years where bad, but last year was just hell on earth.

………..Hell on earth………

yeah…..don’t even like thinking about that….ouch…..Hell on earth. Thank funk I pulled through. I must say I worked my socks off to get where I am now. I guess that’s why I disapprove of these dodgy protocols that have the potential to hurt so much. My health is way way too precious to take chances anymore. Last year I was at deaths door…..now…….i’m gonna be a father again in 6 weeks! Happy dayz! Looking forward to that. 2008 is gonna be a good year!

Let me tell what I’ve done to get better in the last 16 months.
10 liver flushes
2x1 month parasite cleanses(soon to be 3)
3x1 month herbal bowel cleanses(soon to be 4)
3x20day kidney cleanses
colonics, enemas, regular massages, daily Alexander technique, daily dry skin brushing, daily oil pulling, daily oil massages, acupuncture, ostheopath, regular detox baths
Radically changed my diet to be uber healthy and organic. Tried many special weird and wonder detox diets. Juice fasts. I still have 3-5 meals per week that are juice only.
Given up booze, smoking, hard drugs, soft drugs, inbetwen drugs, OTC drugs, RX drugs, going out partying, staying in partying.
amalgam replacement
mercury detox, chelation a la Cutler protocol.
My whole house has been detoxed; carpets, beds, linen, cleaning products, mattress blah de blah.
And I massively educated myself…I continually read health books so I can make informed decisions, so I don’t ever have to see a useless doctor ever again…...the reason I got so bad was because those tossers said I was fine and to relax, chillout and “enjoy my good health”……. HOW could they miss how bloody sick I was! Ahhhhhhh! Really gets my goat…bloody doctors….the money I wasted seeing them…only for them to point me in completely the wrong direction……

If you do what I did…all that stuff above….i guarantee that you will get better. 100pct gurantee. I took/take the view that if I do EVERYTHING…that eventually I will find the solution. Us mercury toxic people go so many things wrong….its amazing. If you need a starting point, or base camp let me know….i have two…..the Cutler protocol and the curezone healing protocol. They are the reason I’m getting better.

PMS…no….can’t help you there young lady……You can call me MR Sunshine if you wish! LOL

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#34779 - 05/04/08 11:27 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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What do you think of this article?


http://www.thefinchleyclinic.com/shop/page_info.php?pages_id=7

Humaworm bowel cleanse was bad for me - I got bowel paralysis and cessation of bile, of course we are all different. I may try the Oxy-powder.

Boy, sunshine you deserve to get well after all that work. Good luck to you.

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#34780 - 05/04/08 11:42 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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hi, i use that site alot and have used colosan which is basically the same as oxy powder for 3 yrs. it is the best stuff in the world, believe me, and im sure that is why when im parasite cleansing, i dont see results,although i would never give it up, we get parasites daily we need to get them out. i totally recommend using either colosan or oxy powder.
im a true fan of colonics and enemas but this stuff goes beyond that.

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#34781 - 05/04/08 11:45 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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No Sunshine, I didn't know that CureZone had a Humaworm forum. It's full of pages and pages of great information! I have gone through several pages already and plan to read them all so I am in the know as much as possible. I am so glad you are getting the lingering parasites out! It's very encouraging to hear although it doesn't sound like the best experience it is comforting to know that with patience and doing the right things to help them out, it is possible. Sounds like the positives greatly out way the negatives. I'm excited and looking forward to getting my order and getting started and on my way to improving my health. I really can't thank you enough for sharing your knowledge and experience. You Rock!
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#34782 - 05/04/08 11:47 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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i tried lots of bowel cleanses before using this and i didnt like any of them, especially Psyllium, it clogged me up, i used it with clay but was no good.

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#34783 - 05/04/08 11:48 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks Dawn

I just got 3 bottles for £65 on e-bay

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#34784 - 05/04/08 11:59 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Well Matti, you are going to love the stuff, i need some more, i miss it, i ran out a couple of wks ago. The clinic itself is a nice place, very friendly, i used to drive there to get what i needed
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#34785 - 05/04/08 10:36 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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The oxy powder sounds good, i have looked at that before but never tried it. i will have to get some then.

Nina, Bentonite clay is really excellent used with a high enema routine. really excellent. bowel cleanse and parasite patrol all at the same time. Will really help things go a lot better for you. I used Black Walnut hull in strong doses (fresh, we have trees here, and I made a tincture for longer term use). But anyway, the Black Walnut hull in strong doses kills egads of parasites and suppose to be real bad for the gardia. But you still need to approach the problem from the other end too I think (enemas etc) to get them out of the colon. I think they hide in there.

Psyllium really clogs me up too. Maybe the worms were nesting in it.

Sunshine the monster worm sounds frightening. any idea what it was? Can you find any photos/details on the web? i had a really weird looking one come out when I started the enemas too but it was little about an inch big... it looked like sort of like a cabbage worm really gross, even green in color and fat with ridges.

I wonder if there's any relation between big strange worms and mucoid plaque and stuff like that. ever see the poop that cabbage worms and caterpillars leave behind? looks a lot like mucoid placque sounds, blackish, greenish thick stuff. just a thought, been sort of wondering about that for a while.

the Bentonite clay enemas really seem to have parasites under control here... but I am expecting the humaworm to arrive any day just for the extra wallop. Maybe it was parasites in my lungs that made me think I had bronchitus the past 10 years, i really don't know if it's bronchitus might just be mercury toxins too. Better though, interesting.

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#34786 - 05/06/08 10:59 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Angelbaby – Thanks and Good luck. Remember you need to keep you water intake high…it’s very important to flush out the toxins and dead bodies asap. Even 1 day of low water intake can make it more difficult.

HI Mati. Yeah, no idea why HW was no good for you, but its important to learn from that experience. I assume you learnt that your bowels need cleaning and you need to find one that works for you?

I did research Oxypowder 3 months ago when I was gonna do a straight bowel cleanse. I remember looking so hard for the ingredients in it. I searched the website top to bottom and google searched it too…but to no avail. Not a long time, 30-45 minutes or so…but I could find no ingredients…just that it was a “Quality product” and “used Magnesium and created oxygen”. Personally I like to know what I’m taking and I have trouble trusting companies that hide stuff from me. All I wanted to know was the ingredients, its not too much to ask.

That article. Yes…I read that before….i remember reading it and thinking “oh $hit…I should not use theose herbs EVER AGAIN”….. but then I read the top of the article…..
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The following article explains why we do NOT recommend herbal colon cleansers, and believe the Colon Cleansing products such as Oxy-Powder which we provide are far safer. It is produced with the kind permission of Dr Edward Group, the director of the company who manufacture Oxy-Powder.




Strangely it was written by the director of the company that makes Oxy-powder!!!!!!! Now, what do you think he was gonna say!!!!!!!

And then I remembered how much better I been getting using those fresh Humaworm herbs that they just dissed……. So I decided to use what had been working so gloriously already for me…if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it…so I did a Humaworm straight bowel cleanse Humacleanse. Worked wonders for me.

But saying all that……I have heard many many people saying great great things about oxypowder….and I 100pct believe them all…and I may take some one day…….but for me….humaworm works just fine and dandy so I will stick with that.

However you cleanse your digestive tract and bowels is not that important….but actually cleaning them is very very important. The “how” is much less significant than the “doing it.” Every time I bowel cleanse, whichever way I do it, I get noticeably better.

I do think that article rubbishing herbs is BS though. My experience says herbs work fabulously and I prefer using herbs anyway.


Sos: no idea what the leviathan actually was. I did put a picture up on curezone but it was not a very good picture so difficult to tell. RG would reply if he knew….was a rubbish picture, I was too disgusted and just wanted to flush the MOFO away. still makes me gag just thinking about it. yuuuuuck. A real beast. I have a feeling my wheat allergy may have gone since then, but….i need to test that. I do feel different.
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#34787 - 05/06/08 01:08 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Will do Sunshine. Water is my beverage of choice on a daily basis. I rarely drink juices or milk. So I will just kick it up a notch or two. It seems like it may be a while before I receive my products as many people are complaining on Curezone about having to wait to receive their Humaworm and Humacleanse. Guess that just means it's great stuff and they are back logged with orders. Just playing the waiting game now...
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#34788 - 05/06/08 01:12 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Yeah, people are impatient to get better. Plenty of other things to do in the meantime though. They will turn up eventually.
I ordered the "lung cleanse" and "liver cleanse" herbs too. I wonder what they will do to me??
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#34789 - 05/06/08 01:28 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I can definitely relate to that! I am very ready to get feeling better. I feel I have come this far already that there are plenty of things I can do in the meantime. I hope the lung and liver cleanses will bring you relief as well. Glad to hear you are feeling better.
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#34790 - 05/07/08 12:02 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Mr. Sunshine and others

Hell on Earth, that's where I am at right now unfortunately. I got mercury toxic in 2005 then had a period where I got better, doing a macrobiotic diet, acupuncture, real healthy living. Then the good life got good and I got relaxed and took a few drinks here and there, decided to start living normal again and try to put all this mercury toxicity nonsense behind me. And then summer 2007 - BANG, just started getting worse and worse until in Dec 2007 I could no longer work or do much of anything on my own. Had no clue why I was so bad, until I found an alternative medicine lady who found parasites. However she thought she could cure me with mebendazole, got a bit better for a few days, then boom, March was so sick again didn't understand why...I should have figured it out, that parasites are not something you can just get rid of with one set of some dumb medication. Then in April I found another alternative medicine doc who confirmed parasites where still there and told me it was giardia, so I was able to do a bit more narrowed down research on what to do about it. Ofc, in the mean time I must have seen about 15 docs, had 5-6 blood tests, 4 stool samples, god knows what else, all coming back NEGATIVE and doctors telling me I am in great health, when I was in fact too knocking on death's door, losing weight not able to stand on my feet, completely devasted...

So right now I am doing the parasite cleanse (paraprotex) which I started in late April. I am also on day 5 of Bentonite. I read you can do it pretty much non-stop 3 weeks on, 1 week off for a long time to cleanse the bowels. I am cleansing a lot and the more I get out the worse symptoms I have, like this morning...I thought I would really go mad with panic. Last night I woke up all sweaty with some weird feeling in my chest. I know this buggers have spread hence my symptoms are so severe. However, it seems I am doing a good job killing them if I can hang through all of this, I should come out better and healthier, right? I must believe that in order to make it.

The bottle has 100 capsules and I am taking 2 a day, but am wondering if at some point I should up to 3 per day and speed up the cleanse, or if it ultimately doesn't matter how long it takes, as long as I finish the bottle, which is what is recommended. What do you think Sunshine? Speed up the pace, or steady wins the race?

I am just hoping that by the end of the first cleanse I should be able to start functioning, this is really how desperate I am to get better, I would do anything. I am so tired, finding no support except here on the forum and from my husband, but this is really wearing us down as I am also under financial stress... Hoping that I am finally on the right path and I am so very sorry that the first doc when I got my first symptoms just put me on sedatives.

So right now I am doing a healthy diet, veggie juicing, acupuncture (when I can afford it), parasite cleanse and Bentonite clay. I cannot do anything about the environmental toxins, I live in a very polluted city and this is not helping. Am not about to move though in this shape. Hoping that what I am doing right now will help heal my gut and therefore get me on the road to being better again.
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#34791 - 05/07/08 12:10 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks for that sunshine. Yes agreed, continue on what works for you. I am going to do testing in future, there is a kinesiologist near me but this is interesting I think as muscle testing is only 85% accurate for various reasons. It might be the plastic bottle or just the wrong week

http://www.ladybarbara.net/html/self-testing.html

I agree that it is not good when a company will not disclose ingredients. Normally that is enough to stop me but I have heard so much good about oxy-powder that i decided to take a chance.

I will be having my appointment with lyme specialist on Tuesday though i know he will say yes now. Adding lyme to the mix makes it a lot more complicated. For example you will get worse by taking adrenal extracts and the thyroid receptors get blocked by the lyme cysts. What fun!

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#34792 - 05/07/08 02:33 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Nina: Yr story is so similar to mine…all those negative tests…ignore the tests and go by your symptoms…it’s the only way.

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The bottle has 100 capsules and I am taking 2 a day, but am wondering if at some point I should up to 3 per day and speed up the cleanse, or if it ultimately doesn't matter how long it takes, as long as I finish the bottle, which is what is recommended. What do you think Sunshine? Speed up the pace, or steady wins the race?


I am not familiar with that product you are taking. Is that what the instructions say, 2 caps per day? I suggest stick to 2 caps per day. It’s a marathon not a sprint! Also if you are getting plenty of symptoms on 2 caps a day….then stick with 2 caps……if you said “nothing was happening” then I guess it may be ok to increase the dose. You are winning the battle, all those symptoms tell you that. It’s a marathon not a sprint!

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I know this buggers have spread hence my symptoms are so severe.


I have read some real interesting things about this…..i.e parasite moving around, relocating somewhere else in the body after some parasite cleansing. ….according the boss of Humaworm, RG, he says this is incorrect. He says whats happening is those parasites have always been where they are living….let me see if I can find the link……….

……a long time later…..

…..ah….found it…….

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1125626#i

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parasites can live ALL OVER the human body. Blood, skin, brain, eyes, hands, feet, legs, liver, stomach, and so forth and so on. Let's take worms that live in the feet for example: As long as they are NOT being disturbed, then they live peacefully. Yes - they will cause sickness, but they go about their life cycles without the host being AWARE of their presence. Only when they are being KILLED will they put up a fight. This is when they can be felt. They have been there the ENTIRE time - this is when they can be SEEN moving around just under the skin on the feet and legs. They did not just MOVE down to the legs from another part of the body - they were there ALL ALONG. Their movement indicates that they are trying to escape from death - but there is no escape. They will either break the skin to exit the body - or they will die in the skin and the body will break down and remove their dead carcass. This removal of filth is why it is also VERY IMPORTANT to have toxin removing herbs in a formula. The toxins will make a person sicker than the parasites themselves.




this is just part of that post, you should read all of the above thread, because its very informative. its not that long, will only take 5 minutes to read the whole thing.

And……………..found some other interesting stuff from him whilst looking for that….he makes good sense to me….

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=948997#i

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1051265#i
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#34793 - 05/07/08 04:54 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Nina: all the stuff you are doing is real cool. Big thumbs up! parasite cleansing, bowel cleanses, healthy diet….these are all wonderful and tell your body that you love it and you want it back. At some point you will start winning and start feeling the effects. I have found bowel cleansing the most horrid to contemplate but the fastest and the most consistent benefits to my health. Veggie juicing is really good too…are you fasting or just drinking it when u can?……its megadoing vitamins but with real foods…..it is very good for you.

You are on the right course to navigate away from your hell-ish time.

Thank you for sharing your story….its real important to me to read your story. You said you got better, but that later the mercury came back with vengeance and bit hard…….its important to remind me that I still have mercury in me and that at any moment it could bite me….its a reminder I must chelate if I am ever gonna be permanently well again. Thank you Nina.

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#34794 - 05/07/08 05:12 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Mati: I am a firm believer in muscle testing, but also a firm understander that it is not fool proof and certainly specifically for mercury issues it is of limited value.

I checked that link and I am not familiar with specific method. I have been taught that any testing should use the most sensitive part of the body. The part of the body that access’s everything, that is in constant use and was designed for the job. The tongue is perfectly designed for the job. It’s purpose is to tell you if you should eat something or not. Tasting something will tell you if you are gonna benefit from it or not.

Only trouble is, all this man made food(poison) round, tricking our senses, we have lost the simple ability to be able to simply taste a food and know if its good for us or not. So we must also use our eyes and brains to make sure it is a real food and not man made rubbish.

But if you do any muscle testing…..whatever you test….put in on your tongue and then test….that should give you the most consistent results.

I use a heavy weight that I lift to my side. Just heavy enough so that I can lift it high…….

Let me see if I can find a video………………………..

http://www.weakness2strength.com/fibromyalgia1.swf

There you go…..just like that…when I test something that I have a problem with, just like that lady, I can no longer lift the heavy weight.

Amazing stuff. Something else the blew my mind when i first came across it. I take it for granted now....
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#34795 - 05/08/08 11:01 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine,

I am not doing any juice fasting as this morning I stepped on the scale today and saw I am now at 49 kg (108lbs) and this is probably the least I have had since I was 13 years old! Being skinny really scares me. But I also know that losing weight is the natural part of detox and cleaning the gut, and that I will be able to put weight back on when my gut heals a bit and is able to keep nourishment. One big problem with giardia parasite is malnurishment and malabsorbtion. So that is why I do the juicing, to try and replace the minerals and vitamins the best that I can in the most efficient form - liquid. I usually take cabbage and carrot juice with either celery or a bit of Ginger once a day.

Interesting links, thanks for the post. It makes sense that the parasites where in those places all along and are now putting up a fight when dying. Yucks, that means some are in my lungs with all the wheezing and coughing, yucks, yucks. The important thing is that herbs can get to them whereever they are in the body, at least that is what I understood, and kill them! I suspect that I have had my parasites since last summer, and with the infection being this severe, something tells me I will need more than one round of cleansing. I will stay on Bentonite clay and good diet during the 90 days in between and will order humaworm for that second round. I am really having a hard time dealing with the toxic overload that is my biggest obsticle, but I will keep at 2 capsules per day. On the bottle it says you can take up to 3, but with my doctor who told me I have chronic parasite infection, she probably thought it would be wiser to do it slower and to take longer. And like you said, with as many symptoms as I am getting already, 3 would be an overkill. I guess I am just so anxious to get as many out as possible and start feeling less toxic. AGH!!! The pain that one must go through! Overwhelming! I like what you said though, this is a marathon not a sprint! I have to keep reminding myself that. Thanks for your kind words, almost made me cry (but in a good way!) Not to sound cheesy, but how can one not be in such agony!!!
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#34796 - 05/09/08 07:39 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Nina: 49Kg…oh yes….skinny…just like me. At my worst I was 56kg…I am 6foot 1 inches tall;-( I’m about 67kg now. From all you said, you have a very good handle on what is required of you to get better. Everything you are doing is the right thing and you are on course for a turnaround. The more cleaning you do (not all at the same time) the quicker the turn around will arrive. I will repeat what I said earlier… I have found bowel cleansing the most horrid to contemplate but the fastest and the most consistent benefits to my health. I just read a book about mucoid plaque, and I’m reading another about it too….yuck…..but wow…this cleansing is so important.

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malnurishment and malabsorbtion


this is a great big flashing sign post for you that you need to bowel cleanse, herbs and/or tubes! That is exactly what I had and it is exactly what went away after I bowel cleansed.

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but how can one not be in such agony!!!


you are doing the right things, it will pass and you will feel better once it passes.

I like you quote at the end of your post! Nice!
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#34797 - 05/09/08 08:07 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine,

what about hydrocolonics? Good idea or bad idea for someone in my state? I was thinking of that as an option after I finish the parasite cleanse...
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#34798 - 05/09/08 10:34 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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i will reply on the other thread
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#34799 - 05/10/08 06:48 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Any clue which vitamin deficiency causes the skin to burn from sun easily? This morning I sat on the balcony for literally 10 minutes and aleady had red spots all over my arms and legs. This never used to happen to me before! I know with parasites my body depleted everything it could to fight them off, but how do I know what to replace?

My bones and muscles hurt and are very weak. As mentioned previously I am doing the juicing and taking minerals in form of liquid, but I am wondering if I should also supplement with a multi-vitamin, is that even enough with severe deficiency?
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#34800 - 05/11/08 03:02 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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maybe Vit D3, that might help? You should do some reading and researching on that, but it seems to ring a bell somewhere in me...worth investigating.
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#34801 - 05/11/08 03:20 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Nina,
Someone on a Weston Price mailing list that I'm on found that they stopped burning so easily after they upped their intake of Fish Oil. So maybe an Omega 3 deficiency makes you more prone to burning? Coconut oil is good to use externally.

Here is the post, i have left out name and email address:

"Just thought you all might be interested in my followup querys. I
googled sunburn and Fish Oil and came up with some people who are doing
research on this.

One of them is a professor in the UK and she has sent me references to
papers about it. They have followed people for up to 3 months and looked
at the reduction in burning when they take Fish Oil and have found a
significant reduction in burning.

She speculated that that the carcinogenic mediators are reduced in the
skin.

Studies in animals have shown that UV light induces immunosupression in
skin and that the changes in skin lipids that result from taking fish
oil reduces that immunospression ---which results in less skin cancers.

They are wanting to do more research in it but I suspect the funding may
not be too readily available--- not enough money to be made from drugs
and sun creams.

I still have not burned nor freckled up. Amazing!!!!!"

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#34802 - 05/11/08 04:36 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Ooops nearly missed this one. Thanks sunshine. Yes of course, our own mouths can tell us what is good or not. I had totally forgotten about that. So simple yet so useful, thanks for that. In fact my mouth did tell me when i got my coconut oil delivery. I had received a taster from one company and it drove me wild! I gobbled it up and wanted more but I found another company with a special offer, the one you chose - coconoil I think - or something like it - and just ordered that but when it came it was not the same, it was harder and not sweet. Because it was so cheap I kept it thinking that at least i could fry with it even if i did not feel like eating it. Mistake. Anyhow, I saw the kinesiologist yesterday and she said the coconut oil is bad for me and confirmed what I felt myself.

Most of my supplements are no good. This is not surprising as in the past when I was sicker, the time after I first think i got bitten, I would develop sensitivity to anything i took on a daily basis. So I have learned to rotate everything.

The appointment was a great success. She not only tested my supplements but she used vials to try to diagnose me. She said it is not Borrelia burgdorferi ie lyme - but another bacteria from a tick bite which she could not name so i will see what Dr W says on Tuesday.

She also worked on a few points, massaging them, for fatigue and pain and they worked! I felt much better afterwards and not exhausted through going out. This morning i feel better. She has taught me how to do them myself.

She gave me a few new supplements to buy, diagnosing a deficiency in Vit E and the B's and said the adrenal supplements were no good - well i knew that - i had already come off the ACE as it was making me feel ill and had made me start to gain weight very quickly, my wrists were really swollen.

So it is back to square one - trying to get my adrenals up. I got my saliva tests from Dr P and they are very low - I need to get more tests done now.

The kinesiologist spent 20 mins more with me than the hour i had paid for, and picked me up and took me back to the bus stop. She only charged £35 which was very good value and I will go keep going back to her in a few weeks i think to see if my needs have changed and there is something else to add. This is the thing that you cannot do with the method you gave, though it is very useful and thanks for it, I will use it to keep checking on new intolerances.

Something I found that helps is freshly squeezed Ginger juice for my swollen knee which is very indicative of bacteria. I put on a cloth soaked in it and apply a hot water bottle. It has also helped my carpel tunnel wrist and I put it on my abdomen too. This led to a very good BM this morning and now I remember the macrobiotics saying it is very very good for the digestive system drawing blood to it.

So things are begining to feel a bit easier and have more direction whereas before i was just stabbing in the dark and not feeling much benefit from what i was doing although giving up gluten has been very good i think due to the dream recall.

The kinesiologist told me to use foot pads and tumeric for inflamation. She stressed that things need to be done in the right order and that we can confuse our bodies if we just keep adding things to the mix and not doing them in the right order or changing things when necessary for new deficiencies. Makes sense. My own condition is far too complicated for me to do alone and it helps me to get in tune with my own body more having someone there who is listening to it for me for the moment.

I don't think that Dr P can help me any further, he only has the skills to help less complicated cases and of course does not know about bacterial infections.

I feel a bit more hopeful now, that a way to help my endocrine system will be found without using adrenal extracts which are not suitable for me as taking steroids is contra-indicated where there is bacteria even at the theraputic dose it seems for me. There must be a way to do it, but the most important thing for me now is to cut out all of the things that are hindering me and get my lymph flowing better and my spirits up by seeing some effect from all of the things I am doing especially from diet as I have given up nearly everything I love. The psychological side is so important.

Getting the fillings out is in the future still, but there is some progress now I feel.

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#34803 - 05/11/08 04:20 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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HI Mati. Yeah….you got multiple stuff on the go and multiple things happening….its bloody tricky figuring what does what. Glad you found yr muscle tester helpful. Mine really helped me. Saw him about 20 times last year. He helped me motivate and understand. Its important to have someone to trust.

Re coconoil: that’s what I take…is that the one that didn’t agree with you? If it is, I will try another brand and see if I can tell the difference. I use it a lot, however it doesn’t agree in large doses if I take it orally.

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#34804 - 05/29/08 01:18 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Sunshine,

I am on day 18 of my 1st round of Humaworm and Humacleanse and having good results so far. Not too bad of die off symptoms thank goodness. I have been suffering from constipation but I have increased my water intake and plan to do a colonic after my 30 day cleanse is complete. I was just wondering if you would recommend the in-between herbs that Humaworm sells? Did you find them effective and in your opinion do you think I should take it? I noticed it does have a few of the herbs that Humaworm parasite cleanse has in it and I am worried about developing super parasites. Forgive me for my naiveness in this area but I thought I would ask you since you have been there and done this already and always have great advice to offer. Thanks, angelbaby26
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#34805 - 05/29/08 04:19 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi AngleBaby.

Good stuff, glad you are having good results with not much die-off. Good plan to get a professional colonic, if you are a bit blocked the sooner the better, but doing one in 2 or 3 weeks is considerably better than not doing one at all. its real important to keep drinking plenty of water to flush those toxins out, keep up the good work

Inbetween herbs……ummmmm? Yes I do take the inbetween herbs myself…inbetween parasite cleanses… it does feel good to be “doing something.” They are taken specifically because they are not too powerful/strong…they kinda keep the bugs at bay and don’t let super resistant bugs happen.
I had such good results with HW the urge was to continually parasite cleanse, but they recommend taking a 90 day break inbetween…..so yeah, I take them and they are a good idea, it’s good to keep the bugs at bay as much as possible.

I make my own (because they only just started selling them)…I just buy those dry herbs, grind them up, put them in capsules…bit of a fiddle but cheap as chips. From memory they are sage, thyme, Garlic, cinnamon, cloves, Ginger…so hardly difficult to get hold of.
Herbs plus grinder plus capsules plus capsule maker will cost less than what Humaworm charge. It is a bit fiddly, but a fine little project. Very satisfying. I try and get organic herbs.

But……………….

But I think there are better things to spend your money on……other things to do/try….

I certainly think another bowel cleanse is a very very good idea…1 month after HW has finished….bowel cleansing…however you do it, should be top of the list. you can do bowel cleansing more frequently, every month or so.

I just finished my 3rd Humaworm and I will do the following next, 1 week after Hw has finished
1) 2 week HW lung cleanse, followed by
2) 2 week HW herbal liver cleanse, followed by
3) Some type of bowel cleanse, not sure which type I will do yet.
4) 20-30 days herbal kidney cleanse (Andreas Moritz forumla)
That should then take me up to 3 months for the next humaworm. I will also be chelating during these 3 months.

They got some others too

Antibiotic
Anti-viral
Herpes formula
Pain reliever
Natural nerve calming formula
Lower blood pressure formula
Lower cholesterol formula
Lower blood sugar formula.

I have never done those, but they are all made from fresh herbs, with no man made gunk in them….

Tell me more about your “good results”? Are you feeling a bit better?
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#34806 - 05/29/08 08:26 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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so much for the advice Sunshine! I actually have been feeling some what better since beginning the Humaworm and Humacleanse! I guess I am just paranoid that I will experience some terrible die off symptoms at any minute so I am very cautious. But overall I am very impressed with the Humaworm products. It is a bit of pills to take during the course of the day but I am getting used to the routine now and it has been going smoothly since I began taking them. Wow, making your own in-between herbs is a great idea and I'm sure is much cheaper than the price on the HW website. I have a capsule maker that I use for other herbs I make into capsules already and I hadn't even thought of doing them myself. I think that is the route I am going to take as well.

Although the thought of having a colonic is quite intimidating, I have heard people have great results after going through with one so I am going to make myself strong and do it. I have never done a liver flush so this is something I plan to do during the 90 day break from my next round of HW. I don't have much experience with doing them but I will definitely give it a shot. I have been skeptical to try one after reading in amalgam Illness, that Andy Cutler doesn't recommend them but I know my liver is congested and I would like to try it for myself to see if it helps me out or not.
I would also like to do a lung cleanse because I have Ascaris and I would like to clean out as much as I can from my lungs. Anyhow, I will keep you posted on my progress. Glad your 3rd round of HW was a success. Happy Healing! Angelbaby
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#34807 - 05/29/08 05:55 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I have a capsule maker that I use for other herbs I make into capsules already and I hadn't even thought of doing them myself. I think that is the route I am going to take as well.


as I said it a cool little project….really is kinda satisfying making them up yourself….

Colonic: I would not recommend it if it wasn’t worth the mental trauma! it is defo worth it.

I have done 10 liver flushes. 9 of which where before I had my mercury knowledge and before I learnt that Cutler disapproves of them. I stopped doing them because they where too heavy for me. Really are proper powerful cleanses that drastically help and show you what can be achieved…. but for me…too powerful and took too long to recover from. But I survived 10 of them, they where the first cleanses I tried, when I was really badly sick and I still survived.
First 5 produced good results, with lots of stones coming out, last five took too long to recover…..

I would 100pct percent suggest that mercury toxic people do the other cleanses first. That is very important. That’s bowel cleansing, parasite cleansing and kidney cleansing….all these pave the way to make your liver flushing easier & smoother with longer lasting benefits. And I would say you need to follow the protocol to the letter and that includes the colonic/enema’s before and after. You don’t have to do all these things, I didn’t at first, but now I have done everything multiple times, I know why they should be done….its because they make everything easier. What goes before makes what comes after easier.

If you do a kidney cleanse, your kidneys will better be able to detox you, both during the liver flush, during normal times and during chelation when your poor old body is working over time trying to detox you. Same applies to all the other cleanses.

I’m doing a lung cleanse because I smoked for over 15 years, although I gave up 10 years ago.

Happy healing to you too Anglebaby
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#34808 - 05/29/08 08:44 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Good to know Sunshine. I passed my first ascaris today! I was shocked to see it. It was dead but a good 8 - 10 inches in length! Wow I am so happy it is out! I hope to get more out through the remainder of my cleanse. I'm sure there are more. To think it came out of me is gross but that is the whole purpose of doing the cleanse in the first place!

I am still very skeptical about the liver flush. Maybe I will just do the bowel cleansing, and kidney cleanse while taking the in-between herbs and chelation for the next 90 days. A couple of months ago I had two phosphatylcholine liver flush IV's to help with my congested liver and they did help some. They were not meant to help pass stones but I was also very toxic and ill at the time and they did help with the angina symptoms and numbness/tingling I was experiencing at the time.

I am a former smoker as well and I wonder if the herbal lung cleanse is something else I should look into as well. I'm sure it couldn't hurt. My lungs are feeling funky lately and maybe it is because I am experiencing the die off from any ascaris larvae that are lingering in my lungs. I did feel like something was crawling up my throat (disgusting feeling) a few days before I started the HW/HC and a couple of days into it. It has subsided now but I still feel a bit of pressure in my lung/chest area. Maybe a lung cleanse will help relieve some of the pressure there. Anyhow for the advice. It is much appreciated!
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#34809 - 05/30/08 03:51 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Congrats Angel baby…..i’m over-the-moon-happy for ya Really, great great news. I am so glad the cleanse is working. Seeing is believing……and it is oh so encouraging when you actually see the evidence right there in front of you. 8-10 inches……………….yuck! Turns out you where right to do this parasite cleanse, the evidence is right there…..well done for being so brave and doing the cleanse in the first place. Congrats!

If you don’t want to try the liver flush, then may I suggest castor oil packs to you. They give a much gentler cleanse and I have had good results and I use these now instead of liver flushing. You should do 3 in 3 days and on the third day drink 2-4 table spoons of olive oil afterwards.

http://herballure.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB19&Number=249166&page=2&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

They are easy peasy too and can be done anytime.


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#34810 - 05/31/08 12:22 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks Sunshine, I am very happy with the results! I passed some more pieces today! Yuck, is right!!!

Although I had gotten a positive stool test result back stating I had acaris lumbricoides, candida albicans and giardia lamblia, I was skeptical to believe if that was what was making me so toxic? Thank you so much for opening my eyes to Humaworm products, sharing the curezone website with me and your personal experience. It made me curious wondering if it could help me too and it obviously has so i'm very grateful to you for giving me the extra push!

I was just sharing my experience with some family members today and they claimed they have noticed a difference in my health and I know Humaworm has helped tremendously. They became so excited about my results they want to try it for themselves! I'm so glad to have come in contact with these products.

This is something I plan to continue doing for a long time to come if not forever! Bring them parasites on The castor oil packs is something new to me but seems to be right up my alley! Seems alot safer than liver flushing to me. I plan to try this out soon and hopefully it will help detox my liver some. To anyone else reading this post, if you suspect you have parasites, I highly recommend you try the Humaworm product, they truly are amazing.
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#34811 - 05/31/08 03:06 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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That’s so cool…. others noticing…..that’s when you know you are not imagining things….when you really know things are improving. It’s a pleasure to have helped open your eyes, but it’s you that deserve all the praise….after all its you that had the courage to break with tradition, break away from normal/standard methods to get better, got off your arse and tried something new. Well done and congrats.

Ohhh that feeling of healing is addictive too……

I started my 2 week lung cleanse today…..i wonder what will happen on that?????
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#34812 - 05/31/08 08:24 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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That's so true Sunshine! The feeling of healing is VERY addictive!!!! Well with the lung cleanse. Please let us know how that transpires. Thx. angelbaby
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#34813 - 05/31/08 06:14 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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lung cleanse started today and I have heartburn. Nothing serious & ACV sorted it out…but I HATE heartburn.
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#34814 - 06/01/08 10:38 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hope the heartburn improves for you Sunshine. I experience heartburn myself with the Humaworm and Humcleanse capsules but not every time? I figure it's a small price to pay to get those critters OUT!!! I had a headache last night but I am still seeing more ascaris and hope that they will all be by the time my cleanse is over. I have 8 more days to go. But from what I understand, the Humaworm keeps working a while after the 30 days are over because your system is saturated with the herbs which is a comfort to me. I have been spreading the word about Humaworm products to family and friends because it's helped me so much and I can't help but share my secret!
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#34815 - 06/02/08 06:58 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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…and I can't help but share my secret!


yes, now you know how I feel about these herbs and why I champion them so much. That feeling of healing is oh so addictive…..i just wish it worked for everyone.

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I figure it's a small price to pay to get those critters OUT!!!


yeah, I agree too, a very small price to pay to get better. The symptoms are small fry considering the problems that get sorted or helped when talking these herbs.

heartburn is gone, today I smell and I have a mild cough. Just a little cough, like a-kid-that-wants-to-avoid-school-cough. Its good actually because I know the lung cleanses herbs are doing something.

You may wonder why I am not suddenly cured by all that I have done…the reason is my body is still heavily congested and it takes a long time to get all the gunk out….and I still have mercury in me…that still screws things up, so even when I clean something out….that organ is still compromised because of the merc and will not function properly and so does accumulate more gunk. But every cleanse I do helps, and moves me forwards. Every organ cleaned out relieves the strain of my body coping with the mercury.

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#34816 - 06/03/08 12:32 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Yes Sunshine, I too wish it worked for everyone. I believe that it does, but some people just cannot handle the die off symptoms and stop cleansing or they may have an allergy to an herb. Whatever the case, at least it provides a great deal of relief to many people who do suffer from parasite related health issues.

Sounds like the lung cleanse is doing what it is supposed to be. I ordered the lung and liver cleanses from HW. I hope that once I am through with them my health continues to improve. I know I am very saturated with mercury and I still need to work on chelating..

At least the heartburn is gone! I too get heartburn but not all the time that goodness. I plan to do the lung cleanse, liver cleanse and maybe the kidney cleanse if I can do them all during the 90 day waiting period. Is it ok to chelate while you are doing the separate cleansings? I am currently using the magnetic clay baths which have helped me tremendously, but I feel like I should be doing more after the cleanse is over in (10) days?
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#34817 - 06/03/08 09:02 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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lung and liver cleanse…just like me…cool!

Today I have a mild headache, slight cough and strange parasite BM. I detect a slight easiness of breathing…but I could be imagining that….or maybe wishful thinking, but whatever…it feels like its doing something.

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Is it ok to chelate while you are doing the separate cleansings?



Humaworm – I do not chelate because of the multiple reactions I get.
lung cleanse – I will chelate, round 16 starts tomorrow, but i waited until i saw i did not get wild reactions.
liver cleanse – I will chelate
Bowel cleanse – I do chelate
kidney cleanse – if its your first kidney cleanse I would wait and see how you feel. I will do my 4th kidney cleanse soon and I will chelate, but for your first…..see how it goes.

But……all depends on how I feel at the time, if I feel rough around the edges…I delay the chelation. Chelating when I feel rough is dumb.

I am in danger of getting sidetracked with all these cleanses I am doing and I really must keep chelating. I am still getting some reactions on my low chelation dose of 5mg dmsa and I am leaving bigger breaks inbetween chelation rounds now to fully recover from the redistribution at the end of each round. It is minor stuff, but with all the different things I am doing, taking a little longer inbetween rounds is important so I recover fully. Its also been a bit hectic recently with the new arrival and my wife is not overjoyed by being woken by me taking the dmsa at night and be woken by Felix in the night too

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Yes Sunshine, I too wish it worked for everyone. I believe that it does, but some people just cannot handle the die off symptoms and stop cleansing or they may have an allergy to an herb.


yes, some people don’t clean out as quick as some others and to get the gunk out requires repeated cleanses. Which is difficult to do….if the first cleanse does not work, or nothing much happens…people don't do it again…which is a mistake.... but how are they supposed to know they need to do it again? Education is key!

I am still amazed that after all I have done that I still have a body stuffed full of toxins….i been hard at it for 10 months now.

It’s a marathon not a sprint!
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#34818 - 06/04/08 08:11 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Yes that's the plan! (liver/lung/kidney cleanses)

Since all of these cleanses will be my first, I plan to take them very slow. I don't want to send myself over the edge. Slow and steady works best for me!

I have been working on improving my health since December '07 and although I have tried numerous things, I can tell I've got a lot of toxins out so far... but I'm FAR from done! Pacing myself has really worked for me. I've had to take things VERY slow!!! In the beginning I was very toxic and super sensitive to everything but the amalgam Illness book has really put things in perspective for me and reassured me that I wasn't imagining things or going crazy!!! Not to mentions the sound advice from you and others on this forum.

The Humaworm/Humacleanse is still going well for me. I did have a rough night, the night before last. I woke up @ 2:00 am with heart palpatations and feeling crappy. I had that bad impending doom feeling again....scary! I suspect it was either die-off or the mercury backing my system up since I have not been chelating since I began the Humaworm products. I'm hanging in there.... Six more days to go!
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#34819 - 06/04/08 10:47 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Cool Angelbaby….slow and steady is just fine.

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In the beginning I was very toxic and super sensitive to everything but the amalgam Illness book has really put things in perspective for me and reassured me that I wasn't imagining things or going crazy!!!


Me too.

Really do think the lung cleanse was a good idea because I must say I’m feeling like a sack o $hit today. I think 15 years of smoking is taking its toll. Have had a headache on and off for the last few days. heartburn last night was intense, couldn’t get to sleep for ages because it hurt. Top of me head feels like its lifting off. Weird. It is minor stuff, apart from last nights heartburn, but I will not start a chelation round at the moment.

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#34820 - 06/04/08 10:19 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Me too.

Really do think the lung cleanse was a good idea ....

I agree that the lung cleanse is a very good idea. Just another round of getting those toxins out!!! I am dreading doing the lung cleanse myself because I had ascaris at a level 4 (5 being the worst according tot he stool test I had done) I am afraid I may have some lingering eggs in my lungs that are ready to hatch or and residue left over from my previous 15 + of smoking! I hope your heartburn calms down but I sounds like it's loosening things up to help you to cough them up and out!

Still seeing critters in bits and pieces daily! Sooooooooo GROSS!!! But so glad they are finally coming out!!!
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#34821 - 06/05/08 05:05 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I am so happy the Humaworm herbs are working for you…..really……bouyncing-around-the-room-happy!

heartburn is intense these last few days…..i am on my best behaviour….no risks…no chelation…..no exercise….no stress….real careful with my food now……had a couple of liquid only veg juice meals…….drinking plenty of water….lung cleanse is making me feel under-par….nothing too bad …but I need to take it easy. The heartburn is nasty….woke me up at 4am this morning ……. Reminds me of the good old days of suffering in ignorance! It’s not SO bad, certainly nowhere near bad enough to make me stop taking the pills…..but its annoying to be feeling under the weather. When this is over I’m gonna chill….


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#34822 - 06/05/08 05:31 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks Sunshine!

I'm sorry you are feeling cruddy while you are doing your lung cleanse. I guess that is just proof it is getting that gunk loose and helping those toxins flow from your system. Could it be mercury dump symptoms? Or a combo of both? Just a thought? At least it the symptoms are not so bad you can continue with the cleanse. The good thing is it only last a couple of weeks. So it should be over soon! Chilling out after the cleanse sounds like a good plan!
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#34823 - 06/05/08 06:10 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Does not feel like mercury symptoms. mercury gives me muscle weakness galore and brain fog. Now I have heartburn, I smell, strange bm’s, a small cough, a small sore throat….all minor stuff…all detox symptoms….except the heartburn. Think I will ask Humaworm whats going on, but i know what he will say......"Hang on! the herbs are detxoing you...it will pass and you will feel better. well done."

I am chilling already…..i have the next 5 days off work. Paternity leave
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#34824 - 06/05/08 10:49 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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<<<<<<<<<<<I am chilling already…..i have the next 5 days off work. Paternity leave>>>>>>>>>

Congrates to you Sunshine P!!!!!

New babies are put you on....

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#34825 - 06/06/08 01:19 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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It sounds like you are right. You know the affects that mercury has on your body and well enough to know this is something different. Leaning towards the lung cleanse. It's great that you can feel it working but it's too bad that you are having to suffer through this. At least you only have 5 more days to go but that can certainly feel like an eternity when you are feeling crappy!

Good thing that you have the next five days off! Congratulations on your new baby boy is it??? Enjoy that baby as much as you can during your paternity leave!!! Catch up on as much sleep as you can!

Congratulations!!!!

I sent a post earlier in response to your last email but for some reason it's not showing up here? Very strange!!! Anyway, truly excited for you and wife and your new bundle of joy!!!
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#34826 - 06/06/08 07:03 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Congratulations sunshine!!!!!

Best wishes to you all.


I have just started on Humaworm after building up my strength with kinesiology

Great so far, a few things visible but nothing gross yet!

Light headache and spots. I am also taking a Chinese herbal detox remedy and activated charcoal when I feel rough.

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#34827 - 06/06/08 02:57 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi everyone,
I have humacleanse and humaworm in my fridge...it arrived about 2 weeks ago...have not had the guts ,literally to start yet.I've had a really strong reaction to some remedies I've been taken so have been feeling depleted for the last 2 wks or so...at least I think its the remedies.
Each morning I have like a morning sickness with about 5 or 6 bouts or diarrhoea sometimes with nausea,urgency to go and some cramping and somewind and when I went ,it smelled awful.Also I noticed some undigested food ,seeds,rice I think?and some black dots,tiny ,also something that looks like pieces tomato skin,possibly pepper
ugh.
came off remedies about 3 weeks ago and digestion/elimination improved but went back on and a few days later those symptoms back with force...
and again I stopped the remedies two days ago and my stomach feels much better and bm s improving...

I feel I should wait a few days to make sure I'm over that and build my strenght up too.
I am trying to give my liver a rest and have cut down on supplements.
I could not take any Vit C for the week at all because my stomach was so sensitive...took some today so far so good.

I really want to try the cleanses asap but am scared because my system has been so irritable and wonder if I can handle it...First I worried about the humaworm making me constipated but after the last few weeks that sideeffect actually seems appealing to me!!! but I plan to drink plenty of water and do humacleanse at same time.

Mati, lease keep us posted on your cleanse!
I sometimes take the charcoal too and find it wonderful help.
but bm always dark or black after I take it.

I forgot to ask aswell ,are these cleanse hard on the liver?


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#34828 - 06/06/08 04:06 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sorry I had so many questions about the cleanses I asked on humaworm!

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#34829 - 06/06/08 04:55 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks Bann, Angelbaby & Mati! Yeah, we had a little boy.7.5 pounds. Perfect in everyway….;-) Pictures over on the cat thread, top of page 6.

Its nice to be feeling ok, for much of the last 9 months I was worried I’d be in a mercury fog and not be in a position to appreciate anything….luckily I am in a fit state at the moment………………long may it last.

Hi Mati: so you restarted Humaworm? What changed you mind? I thought it didn’t agree? Good good luck!

Hi Sunflower: tomato skins are liver flukes, can’t remember what rice or seeds or black dots are, but they are all parasites of some type.
Scared is normal, first time for anything is always scary, and especially something like this. Best thing to do is read up some of the recommended posts over on Humaworm curezone….that might motivate you to start. If you are still scared, then maybe do the bowel cleanse first? May pave the way for Humaworm?…but overall…I’d say doing both together is better, but there is not much in it.
Humacleanse will help your bowels be normal, will keep you regular.
Good luck Sunflower
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#34830 - 06/06/08 04:59 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Oh yeah, I forgot…I did ask RG over at Humaworm…..guess what he said….. pretty much as I guessed he would….LOL….”Yep - it's doing its magic. Hang in there!”

heartburn has gone now….phew!…and I have earache now. I NEVER get earache! At least i know it's working....but
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#34831 - 06/06/08 09:52 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi sunshine

It was the Humacleanse that i tried before. I was going to do it for a week and then start the parasite cleanse to make sure my bowels kept moving but I need not have worried, they are just fine. I am drinking a lot of water. I think that the Humacleanse had too much psylium for me, it seems to have a bad effect but the parasite cleans seems to have less in. In the future I will ask for it without.

I am up to 3 a day, start 4 tomorrow and feel ok, better than the first few days. Nothing else much to report, there are bits of white sort of segments, threads, and seed looking things and I have a bright crop of zits on my chest.

sunflower I was really scared as i am sensitive to so much, but so far so good. My adrenals are coping fine. I am not sure how much the Chinese herbal detox is helping me. Yes the charcoal does that. I have not needed it recently, just the second day. Might be good to take it regularly. You could start on a very low dose like me and build up. It could be half a capsule - I usually stick a piece of bread in the end if i do that - or pour it out and take less.

I am really pleased that I took the plunge - thanks sunshine.

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#34832 - 06/06/08 11:49 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine your baby boy is so precious!!! Beautiful daughter too!!! Truly am happy you are feeling well enough to enjoy his arrival and be there for your family during this special time in your lives!

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Oh yeah, I forgot…I did ask RG over at Humaworm…..guess what he said….. pretty much as I guessed he would….LOL….”Yep - it's doing its magic. Hang in there!”



Just as you suspected. He's predictable but usually speaks the truth. Hopefully it will pass soon. You are almost done! Way to go!

Glad the heartburn has subsided, the earache is probably clearing toxins from your ear canals as well as smoke does reach that area at some point. I have 4 more days to go of the HW/HC and I will then wait a week to start my lung cleanse, liver cleanse and then the kidney cleanse. I also plan to do a colonic before I start the lung cleanse and probably one after all the cleanses. I feel better than I have in some time though thanks to the HW products.
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#34833 - 06/07/08 12:02 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Sunflower,

I was very sensitive and irritated by many herbs and things I have tried lately too. I have almost completed (4 days left) of my first round of Humaworm/Humacleanse combo. I have surprisingly not had bad die-off symptoms like I suspected! I have seen ascaris worms in my stool too which proves it was worth doing the cleanses together. I did get a bit constipated but I drank some epsom salts and it did the trick in no time!!

My husband was very toxic in the beginning so he started off taking 1 pill in the am and 1 pill in the pm and then he worked his way up to two a day. He did not do the Humacleanse just the Humaworm but he has had cancer twice in the past and he is taking things as slow as he can but he swears he feels a difference even though he has not seen any parasites as of yet. The Humaworm forum on Curezone has been a great source of information and it gave me the confidence to try it out. So glad I did, good luck!
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#34834 - 06/07/08 12:07 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Hi Mati,

So glad you decided to give it another whirl! Slow and steady has always worked for me! Keeing your bowels moving and drinking plenty of water are key to these cleanses being successful!!! You are definitely on the right track! White segments could be tape worm or candida.

I too was terrified of trying this cleanse because of my sensitive reactions to just about everything new I tried but I am happy to say I am so glad I tried these cleanses. I am feeling a lot better!!! I have not been taking ANY other supplements during my cleanses. I am almost done with a few more days to go and then I will start chelation, in between herbs and lung cleanse. Good luck to you, glad you decided to "take the plunge" and try it again!
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#34835 - 06/07/08 01:27 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Good luck Mati.....go get 'em
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#34836 - 06/07/08 01:52 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks sunshine thanks angelbaby

Yikes! Tapeworm?

I am feeling washed out today. No energy and yukky. I realy hope the Humaworm was fresh enough to work still as i have it for months but in the fridge.

The thought of killing the little ****ers is really good though.

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#34837 - 06/07/08 04:41 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine,Mati,Angelbaby,
Thanks for replies &encouragement,
I did not know what ascaris are,but it's tapeworm?...
Whatever it is better out of us than in!
I was concerned about dosage of cleanses as there is a standard size capsule,and us adults come in so many sizes ,I am quite petite I dont want to be blasted out of it with those herbs!!!
I think I will take it slow and take a lower dose as I've been so sensitive.But I feel like I should just take the plunge and start,
no more excuses!!!

There is all kinds of stuff coming out of me the last few weeks or so and I have not even started the herbs yet!
I think its due to the amount of raw Garlic I've been taking and alot of coconut oil in my food.
Today more tomato skins,(liver flukes says Sunshine?)
small black pieces of seaweed looking stuff(mucoid plaque?)
about 1 or 2 handfulls of things that looked like miniature rice crispies(which I dont eat)
and little yellow/orange jelly looking bits and tiny pink things.
Flipping weird stuff coming out me.
Glad I'm not in this alone and have people hereto talk about it.


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#34838 - 06/07/08 04:48 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Angelbaby: Thanks for the happy words…everything is going really well so far…two weeks old and he hardly cry’s (touch wood!)……only when he needs changing, feeding or burping…..which is how is should be…..Happy Dayz!

I must say, you have a very fine program of health giving events. Really does make me happy to see someone so very much in charge of their health, taking positive actions and enjoying it too.
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I feel better than I have in some time though……I am feeling a lot better!!!......


…………and that is the whole point, to feel better….doesn’t matter if you see or don’t see bugs or whatnot…….. feeling better is what we want…….Top stuff
Glad your Hubby is feeling the difference too. Well done for convincing him. Will he also do the other cleanses?
What chelation protocol will you be using? Have you decided?

Mati: I think I remember Humaworm saying 6 months in the fridge…but defo the fresher the better. Good luck Mati

I’m ok today, bit or earache but symptoms have calmed right down……..otherwise had a fine day in the sunshine in the garden…oh yeah and I had a morning nap too!
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#34839 - 06/07/08 05:44 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunflower,

Ascaris is a type of roundworm. I was tested back in January and was told I had a high count of them throughout my body! Yuck!!! Here is a link so that you can get an idea of what they look like. Keep in mind they can come in darker or lighter colors depending on if where they were in your body. They can even look blood tinged!

http://www.curezone.com/image_gallery/parasites/ascaris/default.asp?i=0&n=24

Tape worm are more flat looking and can break of in segments and can grow to be quite lengthy. I don't know how long exactly but I have read that they can be very long.

http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/wormstapewormphotos.htm

Taking it slow or leaping in totally depends on how ou feel. Maybe starting off taking one pill in the am and one in the pm word do to start off and then work your way up to the two in the am and two in the pm. It all depends on how you feel, keep in mind that there is also the possibility of createing super parasites that may become immune to the herbs either. Good luck to you, you are right better out of our bodies than in.
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#34840 - 06/07/08 06:05 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks Sunshine! Sounds like you have been blessed with a great baby. It sure helps when they are calm as infants. My first son was a very good baby, He never cried unless he was hungry or needed to be changed.

My second was a crier since he was born. It was very hard on both my husband and I because we were so spoiled with our first one. Both of my boys were 8.5 pounders (talk about bouncing baby boys). Knowing what I do now, I am positive my second son suffered from mercury poisoning by being exposed to it in the womb from me. He has been slower to talk and has a few autistic characteristics. I have been giving him clay baths. Both of my sons have also been on the Humaworm with my husband and I. Would love to try for a girl some time if I ever get to feeling like my old self again!!!

I have noticed a big change in both of them. My older one had candida clusters in his stools and bad atheletes foot that has almost disappeared since starting the cleanse. My youngest was very hyperactive and he craved sweets constantly. Now he he has calmed down quite a bit and doesn't crave sweets as much as he used to at all. He is even talking more clearly. I am very very impressed with Humaworm so far and I don't mind sharing my experiences here if can help people and their families at it has helped me and mine.

I would like my husband to try the other cleanses but he really hasn't expressed an interest yet. Maybe after I do them he will see my results and get encouraged to try them.

As far as the chelation, I was doing Extreme Health Heavy Metal Detox,

http://www.extremehealthusa.com/source.html

It contains a proprietary blend of Alpha Lipoic Acid, Garlic and various other naturals supplements combined. I had been using this since December and have done really well with it. I have been contemplating trying DMSA in low dosage too and now that I am feeling better I might but I have an appointment with my western medicine doctor in a couple weeks and I may just use what I have until I can get the DMSA via prescription rather than pay for it out of pocket.

Glad your feeling better. Although I am feeling pretty good right now, a nap sounds good to me too.

Mati, your herbs should be fine if they've been refridgerated. May not be as potent as fresh but should still do a fine job!
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#34841 - 06/07/08 06:14 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Angelbaby…that’s greatthat the whole family is getting better

I read a book and it talked about those “Ascaris Lumbricoides” said that it was estimated that 1 billion people where infected…that was reported in 1980…and in 1991 it was estimated at 1.2 billion people……..that’s one worm infecting 20pct of the worlds population. 10-31 cm long…..females lay upto 250,000 eggs per day and live for upto 1 year….

What a ‘mare!


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#34842 - 06/07/08 07:46 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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I sure hope our health continues to imrpove from here. I owe a big thanks to you for introducing me to the Humaworm products through the forum.



The acaris lumbricoides have been a complete nightmare. I couldn't understand why I felt so badly but everything hit me at once, mercury toxicity, candida, ascaris lumbricoides, giardia lamblia and Chilomastix Mesnili! I was literally dying and have come a long long way but still have a fight on my hands to get better. The doctors kept telling me it was anxiety but I wouldn't accept that as a diagnosis and by taking the natural route I have improved my health a great deal. Just seeing several ascaris and parts of them that came out of me was all the proof I need to assure me that I was taking the appropriate measures to get my health in check! Few more days of the cleanses to go and I will start on in-between herbs and then lung cleanse. Hope I can handle it.
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#34843 - 06/22/08 05:48 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Finished the 2 week lung Cleanse from Humaworm. I must say felt like a long 2 weeks. I have had: heartburn, more heartburn, mild heartburn, bad heartburn, strange BM’s, my pee smelt, I smelt, a mild very cough, a very minor sore throat, strange top-of-my-head-lifting-off sensation, generally feeling mildly under-the-weather, oh yeah and haemorrhoids. Me piles only come to town when I have some heavy detoxing going on and that is basically what’s been going on for the last 2 weeks….lots of toxins coming out. I had these symptoms one at a time, not all at the same time thankfully.

Also did a P&B shakes a couple of times was rewarded with some more mucoid plaque. Happy dayz! I'm sure the herbs loosen things up inside and make releasing this junk easier.

Its been a week since I finished and I been trying to see whats differenent about me now that all those annoying symptoms have stopped. Physically I feel a little stronger but the over riding sensation is that I am mental sharper. I didn’t expect that….i’m over-the-moon happy about it.

Yet again Humaworm was a roaring success!

liver herbs next….will report back when I have done them.
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#34844 - 06/22/08 06:14 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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That's great sunshine. More power to you!

I am plodding on - into week 3 and nothing spectacular or itching, it's regular, lots of small stuff, liver flukes, and these are bigger now than at the start. Like you I have noticed clearer thinking, I have been able to do much more sorting out of things, and in the past anything that required a lot of thought would exhaust me now it doesn't and I have more energy too.

My next step now is to go to Germany - I fly on July 31st to Berlin where a friend will pick me up from the airport and then I will be heading for the Black Forrest when I get an appointment with a doctor who uses the BIONIC 880 - photon light therapy, and he has a 98 % success rate with borrelia. He is also good with heavy metal detox. I expect i will be getting my amalgams seen to there and at least it will be a lot cheaper. The doctor is amazing and does not charge much - it is different in Germany and doctors are not rich like they are here - they think that everyone deserves good health not just the rich - rip off Britain again. His initial fee for diagnosis with ARM is 120 euros and treatments are from only 35 euros (£1 = 1.26 euros). I have friends in Berlin and one has offered to be my taxi driver, taking me to the doctor where i will have to stay for maybe up to 3 weeks for treatment. One good thing is that treatment takes less time for those who have not used anti-biotics for the borrelia

After a lifetime of suffering since mercury poisoning as a baby, I see this as God coming to my aid ( and for providing the means) and am very excited at the thought of getting better. The suffering it has caused me has been the means of spiritual growth and the means of getting to know Him very well so all things have worked to my good as it says. And it was only when I got to the stage of acceptance and thankfulness in all things, that things changed. I know that He longs to help everyone, but He cannot if we shut Him out of our lives. Sermon over.



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#34845 - 06/22/08 08:20 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Sunshine,

Sorry you have had a rough time of your organ cleanses but I am certain you are detoxing those organs full force and although their is some suffering involved, I believe it will all be worth it when they are done! Good luck with the liver cleanse, please keep up posed on how it progresses!

Mati,

Glad to hear your thinking is becoming clearer! So much so that you are on your way to the BIONIC 880 experience. I have heard a little about this! Many people rave that it does them justice! I hope your prayers are answered and this helps improve your state of health! Good luck to you! Would love to hear about your progress as well.
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#34846 - 06/22/08 08:25 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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all,
(Here is an update of what's been going on with me. I summarized my Humaworm/Humacleanse experience so far....)

For those that don't know, I was feeling pretty ill before I began the Humaworm/Humacleanse products. I was desperate to receive them in the mail and began the day I received them. I experienced very little die off symptoms but the times I didn't feel well, I was shocked to see several ascarias worms in my stools! Yuck!!! I am so glad I got them out. Since they can migrate to the lungs, I was beginning to feel creeping sensations in my chest and throat area to the point where it felt like something may crawl up and out of my mouth! It was frightning! Since I began the cleanse that sensation has disappeared!

My entire family did the cleanse right along with me and they all have seen great results. My husband feels a lot better like I do, he has has cancer twice in the past and he claims to have more energy since finishing the cleanse. My older son is 5 and he had bad candida to the point where he was getting athletes foot and he had red, itchy blotches on his feet that were painful. They have disappeared since finishing the cleanse. My youngest son is 2 1/2. He was very ancy and showed signs of autism but not ever diagnosed with it. He was always craving sweets before the cleanse. Now his sweet cravings have decreased significantly and he has calmed down quite a bit! Humaworm has literally changed our lives for the better! Thanks RG you truly are a life saver! I plan to begin the lung, liver and kidney cleanses along with the in-between herbs during my 90 way to recleanse with Humaworm! I will post my progress! Still trying to clean up my body and I have faith these cleasnes will be a major part of my sucess as well as colonics, which I plan to start as soon as I can afford it!
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#34847 - 06/23/08 04:41 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Like you I have noticed clearer thinking, I have been able to do much more sorting out of things, and in the past anything that required a lot of thought would exhaust me now it doesn't and I have more energy too.


Happy dayz Mati…good news. Amazing what a few herbs can do and the changes they enable. It is easy to associate these mental changes with other things, but make no mistake these herbs work wonders. Congrats.

That reminds me…I have a recommendation for you….

http://grains2millshop.co.uk/html/grains2mill1.html

They sell pre-packed uncooked bread mixes, made with freshly ground whole wheat/rye/spelt/oats. You just mix it up and stick in the oven. Easy peasy and tastes absolutely wonderful. I been making 2-3 a week.

I have a wheat allergy but I am fine with this freshly ground wheat….so I obviously have an allergy to the processing process of the wheat.

Good luck in Germany.
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#34848 - 06/23/08 04:47 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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AngelBaby…..I’ve said before and I will say it again……Congrats and super-double-triple well done. As well as helping yourself, you must be so proud to have helped your whole family in such a cool way. Respect

I’m holding off of the liver cleanse for now. I just finished a chelation round and I’m doing some P&B shakes and I been doing some castor oil packs to soften up the liver in preparation for the liver herbs.

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#34849 - 06/23/08 05:46 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse?
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Thanks for that link sunshine

The bread looks great - but I am now gluten free. They do a cornbread but it would be cheaper to do that one at home. But thanks anyway.


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#34850 - 06/30/08 05:50 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse? [Re: angelbaby26]
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I am so glad the cleanse went so well for you, Angelbaby!
Mine went well, too. I saw a few of those Ascarias in mine, but they were awfully tiny and I expected something larger. I think there were some pinworms or something, too. I saw the "tomato skins/liver flukes", if you guys are talking about thin, clear pieces of something that actually looks like skin. I still do not understand that, because it doesn't look like a creature to me, nor anything I ate. If that's what it was though, I passed a lot. My husband did the cleanse too, and I don't know what he passed, because he's a little more shy about this stuff, I think. Maybe he didn't even look, but he took them and that's what matters. I had great results, and the combo of that and having half my fillings out, has made me have a renewed reason to live. I am not nearly well, but good changes have happened!!

Tell me, Angel...how the heck did you get your kids to take the humaworm? I can hide it in things for my daughter, and she will eat it, but NOT MY SON! He knows. Neither of them will swallow pills, either. My son is like yours, he has signs of Autism from the womb, and I think they got even more complicated when he had shots ( I wish I'd know then what I know now ) He doesn't want to eat anything that is not sweet, he is sensitive to anything that is different, and he has problems with textures of some foods. He is almost 4 1/2, he walked late, talked late, and has some speech issues. He needs to start preschool in a couple of months and I'm scared to death.

How did you get your kids to take Humaworm? I'm dying to know.
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#37031 - 07/01/08 10:27 PM Re: Good parasite cleanse? [Re: mommy24]
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Thanks Sunshine! It does feel good to know we are on the road to being healthier! I can't thank you enough because without you I would probably never heard of Humaworm! So thanks from the bottom of my heart! You're awesome! Don't blame you for wanting to hold off on the liver cleanse! I have been putting off starting the lung, kidney, liver cleanses myself. I am feeling much better but not yet ready to take the plunge! I need to get the castor oil to decongest my liver some before I can get up the courage to proceed.

Hi Mati,

Glad your cleanse went good as well! Thos Ascarias are stubborn parasites and glad to know you got them out even if they were little! I myself didn't see the liver flukes but don't doubt I have them too! I feel the same as you, not 100% yet but well on my way!

As for getting my kids to eat the Humaworm, I tried opening the pills and putting them in applesauce, pudding and peanut butter but they hated it! I tasted it myself and the herbs were too strong. So started putting the whole pill in a lump of peanut butter or pudding and they preferred swallowing it whole! They got to the point where they would ask me daily for their Humaworm! I hope this helps and good luck! Angelbaby26
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#37036 - 07/02/08 02:34 AM Re: Good parasite cleanse? [Re: angelbaby26]
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Thank you! I'll give it a try that way. I tried opening it up and putting it in peanut butter, and even pizza sauce for a homemade pizza, and still a "no go"..you're right, they are way too strong. I will try it though in some pudding or something. Hopefully, it doesn't melt before he gets it swallowed. Yuck! lol Did you ever see anything in your kids stool? Wondered if they actually had any parasites that were visible.
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